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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.
    It's ok that you are ok with it.  I am not.  We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job.  Was he?  Wasn't he?  Who was if he wasn't?  I think it's important.   I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

    I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though.  If you saw trump like that....same opinion?  I doubt it.  Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden?  It's just strange and sad.

     And in 3 years dems are going to get hit with a sledgehammer with the Biden fiasco,  
    you say this with the certainty that there is absolutely nothing else going on
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mrussel1 said:
    Don’t worry Lerx this administration will make sure to bring to justice Biden Obama Clinton & Harris for the biggest crimes perpetrated against this nation! 

    It’s great when the Democrats are caught in a significant lie and obstruct democracy that it’s so funny. But yet you want moderates to take you seriously when you complain about trum ? It should be obvious this deception doesn’t work
    Obstruct democracy?  WTF are you on about?  When you say stuff like this, you do sound MAGA.  Words matter.

    Listen, this issue that you won't let go is a nit, both compared to the weakening of institutions that is occurring daily in this country, and compared the gigantic lie that led us into Iraq that caused hundreds of thousands of casualties and billions in lost treasure.  You want a harp on an American scandal, get ruffled up about that.  

    They were dishonest about his condition.  dishonest about who was calling the shots. It clearly wasn't him. They delayed and delayed. They forced a nominee on us without a vote. She clearly needed to be vetted against her older extremist positions and her current positions, but we were denied that Democratic process. These are all facts. You can attack these facts as much as you want but that' says more about your partisanship than anything else
    It clearly wasn't him? You are pulling that out of magaland. 
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  • hunterh75
    hunterh75 Posts: 121
    Someone has a summer pass to Bidenland. Enjoy the Autopen Freefall or the Kamala word salad Kamikaze. Stay off the Ambien Roller Coaster or you'll trip over your own shadow.  
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    hunterh75 said:
    Someone has a summer pass to Bidenland. Enjoy the Autopen Freefall or the Kamala word salad Kamikaze. Stay off the Ambien Roller Coaster or you'll trip over your own shadow.  
    Yeah ok...enjoy watching your cult leader defend himself against Epstein's connection for the rest of his term
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    hunterh75 said:
    Someone has a summer pass to Bidenland. Enjoy the Autopen Freefall or the Kamala word salad Kamikaze. Stay off the Ambien Roller Coaster or you'll trip over your own shadow.  
    Yeah ok...enjoy watching your child molesting cult leader defend himself against Epstein's connection for the rest of his term
    fixed it for you and @hunterh75
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    Don’t worry Lerx this administration will make sure to bring to justice Biden Obama Clinton & Harris for the biggest crimes perpetrated against this nation! 

    It’s great when the Democrats are caught in a significant lie and obstruct democracy that it’s so funny. But yet you want moderates to take you seriously when you complain about trum ? It should be obvious this deception doesn’t work
    Obstruct democracy?  WTF are you on about?  When you say stuff like this, you do sound MAGA.  Words matter.

    Listen, this issue that you won't let go is a nit, both compared to the weakening of institutions that is occurring daily in this country, and compared the gigantic lie that led us into Iraq that caused hundreds of thousands of casualties and billions in lost treasure.  You want a harp on an American scandal, get ruffled up about that.  

    They were dishonest about his condition.  dishonest about who was calling the shots. It clearly wasn't him. They delayed and delayed. They forced a nominee on us without a vote. She clearly needed to be vetted against her older extremist positions and her current positions, but we were denied that Democratic process. These are all facts. You can attack these facts as much as you want but that' says more about your partisanship than anything else
    I attack the concept because it's not rooted in our Constitution.  You have NO right to pick the Democratic candidate for president.  Full stop.  None.  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    What extremist positions did Harris ever have? 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    edited July 24
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    This is 1000% where it's all headed. 

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    This is 1000% where it's all headed. 

    It is true, but at the same time if he pardons her I have to imagine the conspiracy nuts (and everyone) will lose their minds.  So there is huge risk to pardoning or providing clemency.  But without it, what does Trump have to offer?  
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    This is 1000% where it's all headed. 

    It is true, but at the same time if he pardons her I have to imagine the conspiracy nuts (and everyone) will lose their minds.  So there is huge risk to pardoning or providing clemency.  But without it, what does Trump have to offer?  
    Don’t sweat it, they have it all worked out. 

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    This is 1000% where it's all headed. 

    It is true, but at the same time if he pardons her I have to imagine the conspiracy nuts (and everyone) will lose their minds.  So there is huge risk to pardoning or providing clemency.  But without it, what does Trump have to offer?  
    Don’t sweat it, they have it all worked out. 

    haha.  That's funny.  
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    This is 1000% where it's all headed. 

    It is true, but at the same time if he pardons her I have to imagine the conspiracy nuts (and everyone) will lose their minds.  So there is huge risk to pardoning or providing clemency.  But without it, what does Trump have to offer?  
    I see it being where they promise her a pardon on trump's last day as long as she plays nice...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    hunterh75 said:
    Someone has a summer pass to Bidenland. Enjoy the Autopen Freefall or the Kamala word salad Kamikaze. Stay off the Ambien Roller Coaster or you'll trip over your own shadow.  
    Do you click post and think “heh heh got em”?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,809
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    This is 1000% where it's all headed. 

    It is true, but at the same time if he pardons her I have to imagine the conspiracy nuts (and everyone) will lose their minds.  So there is huge risk to pardoning or providing clemency.  But without it, what does Trump have to offer?  
    I see it being where they promise her a pardon on trump's last day as long as she plays nice...
    Are the Dems and anyone interested in justice in this case on TV telling viewers that if Maxwell gets any kind of a reduced sentence now or in the future that it is immediately and admission of guilt by trump?  Not sure it would help but gotta put it out there before anything happens.  Cause you are right, that is the likely path.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    This is 1000% where it's all headed. 

    It is true, but at the same time if he pardons her I have to imagine the conspiracy nuts (and everyone) will lose their minds.  So there is huge risk to pardoning or providing clemency.  But without it, what does Trump have to offer?  
    I see it being where they promise her a pardon on trump's last day as long as she plays nice...
    Are the Dems and anyone interested in justice in this case on TV telling viewers that if Maxwell gets any kind of a reduced sentence now or in the future that it is immediately and admission of guilt by trump?  Not sure it would help but gotta put it out there before anything happens.  Cause you are right, that is the likely path.
    I don't know but Maxwell deserves a life sentence. She was arguably more responsible than Epstein for luring those girls in.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,196
    PJ_Soul said:
    What extremist positions did Harris ever have? 
    Given our current maga country, being a minority woman in and of itself is extreme. Being pro-woman and pro-minority: even more so, unforgivably so perhaps. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,808
    So handlers for politicians did what they have always done.
    It's ok that you are ok with it.  I am not.  We had the president of the united states that certainly appeared to be unable to perform his job.  Was he?  Wasn't he?  Who was if he wasn't?  I think it's important.   I would love to watch a documentary on it by a respected, non-partisan journalist.

    I do find it weird what many people are willing to ignore if it's someone on their team though.  If you saw trump like that....same opinion?  I doubt it.  Many here talked 25th amendment with trump in both terms....but not Biden?  It's just strange and sad.

     And in 3 years dems are going to get hit with a sledgehammer with the Biden fiasco,  
    you say this with the certainty that there is absolutely nothing else going on
    Forgive me... is it not the Republicans that usually dominate election agenda and  culture type issues?. The Rs are going to level this with a sledgehammer and since the Democrats are lost in their denialism they're not going to be ready for it
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    ok
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    mrussel1 said:
    Don’t worry Lerx this administration will make sure to bring to justice Biden Obama Clinton & Harris for the biggest crimes perpetrated against this nation! 

    It’s great when the Democrats are caught in a significant lie and obstruct democracy that it’s so funny. But yet you want moderates to take you seriously when you complain about trum ? It should be obvious this deception doesn’t work
    Obstruct democracy?  WTF are you on about?  When you say stuff like this, you do sound MAGA.  Words matter.

    Listen, this issue that you won't let go is a nit, both compared to the weakening of institutions that is occurring daily in this country, and compared the gigantic lie that led us into Iraq that caused hundreds of thousands of casualties and billions in lost treasure.  You want a harp on an American scandal, get ruffled up about that.  

    They were dishonest about his condition.  dishonest about who was calling the shots. It clearly wasn't him. They delayed and delayed. They forced a nominee on us without a vote. She clearly needed to be vetted against her older extremist positions and her current positions, but we were denied that Democratic process. These are all facts. You can attack these facts as much as you want but that' says more about your partisanship than anything else

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