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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you all realize that the goal with Maxwell is to only name who the current Trump DOJ sycophants want her to name in exchange for reduced time/early release. This isn't going to end in favor of dems or the public because Trump can control the narrative. That's why he's stalling and keeps pushing it off. Once they have Maxwell in line with any chosen documents that don't implicate Trump or his cronies he will release everything*.

    * As in, what they want. And then the base will move on and dems will be stuck circle jerking each other.
    This is 1000% where it's all headed. 

    It is true, but at the same time if he pardons her I have to imagine the conspiracy nuts (and everyone) will lose their minds.  So there is huge risk to pardoning or providing clemency.  But without it, what does Trump have to offer?  
    I see it being where they promise her a pardon on trump's last day as long as she plays nice...
    Are the Dems and anyone interested in justice in this case on TV telling viewers that if Maxwell gets any kind of a reduced sentence now or in the future that it is immediately and admission of guilt by trump?  Not sure it would help but gotta put it out there before anything happens.  Cause you are right, that is the likely path.
    I don't know but Maxwell deserves a life sentence. She was arguably more responsible than Epstein for luring those girls in.
    She does and that’s why I think it’s very perilous to offer reduced, pardon, etc. 

    At the same time, why would she finger anyone worried without immediate pro-quo?  No way can you trust Trump to pardon on his final day. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,808
    ok

    Not a purely elitist response, just like a democrat? Rs will come with this attack and Dems will be scurrying around stunned and shocked. The best way to win is understand your opponent and be ready for what’s coming. Ok.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ok

    Not a purely elitist response, just like a democrat? Rs will come with this attack and Dems will be scurrying around stunned and shocked. The best way to win is understand your opponent and be ready for what’s coming. Ok.
    I better start preparing then.  My career aspirations depend on it.  
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    Voters aren't gonna give a shit about Biden stuff next year or even in 28. 

    Dems aren’t in power. People are only gonna. Are about how the past year or so has been (at the time of voting), especially if things aren’t great. 

    I know you’ve got a hard pessimistic streak of thinking Dems can’t handle this or Trump. But every time Trump or GOP has gotten power, the response from the electorate has been ‘eh, nope’. 

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,008
    Voters aren't gonna give a shit about Biden stuff next year or even in 28. 

    Dems aren’t in power. People are only gonna. Are about how the past year or so has been (at the time of voting), especially if things aren’t great. 

    I know you’ve got a hard pessimistic streak of thinking Dems can’t handle this or Trump. But every time Trump or GOP has gotten power, the response from the electorate has been ‘eh, nope’. 

    except the stupid electorate gave all three branches to trump and his cult.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,994
    Dems are going to be locked out of statewide offices in 2028 through a combination of purging of voter rolls, new voter ID requirements, state and federal judge appointments, redistricting, last minute changes, floods of big money and stupid people believing stupid shit. Imagine what is already happening behind the scenes right now in Tejas, for example.

    It’s too late to fix what’s already been broken and by the time 2028 rolls around, forget about it.

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    Voters aren't gonna give a shit about Biden stuff next year or even in 28. 

    Dems aren’t in power. People are only gonna. Are about how the past year or so has been (at the time of voting), especially if things aren’t great. 

    I know you’ve got a hard pessimistic streak of thinking Dems can’t handle this or Trump. But every time Trump or GOP has gotten power, the response from the electorate has been ‘eh, nope’. 

    except the stupid electorate gave all three branches to trump and his cult.
    Right. Because they were pushing back on the perceived economic anxiety of the Biden years. They’ll push back on this Trump shit and looking at the polling, that’s seemingly the case. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    I’m not pessimistic that Democracy is cooked. It’s bruised and bloodied for sure and there are still ongoing threats. But I’m not onboard with America is done. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,808
    Voters aren't gonna give a shit about Biden stuff next year or even in 28. 

    Dems aren’t in power. People are only gonna. Are about how the past year or so has been (at the time of voting), especially if things aren’t great. 

    I know you’ve got a hard pessimistic streak of thinking Dems can’t handle this or Trump. But every time Trump or GOP has gotten power, the response from the electorate has been ‘eh, nope’. 



    Looks like you’re right, the Epstein strategy is working …

    The Emerson College poll found that Vance held a single-digit lead over three potential candidates: former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, California Governor Gavin Newsom, and New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

    The poll surveyed 1,400 U.S. voters from July 21 to July 22, 2025, and had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.

    Of those three, Buttigieg was held to the tightest margin, with 44 percent backing Vance for president and 43 percent supporting Buttigieg. Buttigieg fueled speculation that he could run for president earlier this year when he announced he would opt out of running statewide in Michigan, where he has lived since his time in President Joe Biden's administration.

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,497
    wait until the Big Boy arrives
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,204
    Dems are going to be locked out of statewide offices in 2028 through a combination of purging of voter rolls, new voter ID requirements, state and federal judge appointments, redistricting, last minute changes, floods of big money and stupid people believing stupid shit. Imagine what is already happening behind the scenes right now in Tejas, for example.

    It’s too late to fix what’s already been broken and by the time 2028 rolls around, forget about it.

    Lol. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,808
    nicknyr15 said:
    Dems are going to be locked out of statewide offices in 2028 through a combination of purging of voter rolls, new voter ID requirements, state and federal judge appointments, redistricting, last minute changes, floods of big money and stupid people believing stupid shit. Imagine what is already happening behind the scenes right now in Tejas, for example.

    It’s too late to fix what’s already been broken and by the time 2028 rolls around, forget about it.

    Lol. 

    Maybe focusing less on Epstein and Colbert and dems should instead be showing off their stellar “ground game” that they brag about, especially in all the regions they lose 70/30… not even people facing an elevated risk of deportation under Trump voted for them last year. But no, everything is a conspiracy…Colbert Epstein 24/7
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,808
    edited July 26
    Vance is out performing three key Democrats in recent polls, amid the Colbert Epstein uproar that The Democrats have been orchestrating. 


    The proof is right there … the people are not supporting Democrats even during this Epstein Colbert uproar, yetmore democrat conspiracy theories. There’s a sure fire away to connect with voters…

     

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,540
    nicknyr15 said:
    Dems are going to be locked out of statewide offices in 2028 through a combination of purging of voter rolls, new voter ID requirements, state and federal judge appointments, redistricting, last minute changes, floods of big money and stupid people believing stupid shit. Imagine what is already happening behind the scenes right now in Tejas, for example.

    It’s too late to fix what’s already been broken and by the time 2028 rolls around, forget about it.

    Lol. 

    Maybe focusing less on Epstein and Colbert and dems should instead be showing off their stellar “ground game” that they brag about, especially in all the regions they lose 70/30… not even people facing an elevated risk of deportation under Trump voted for them last year. But no, everything is a conspiracy…Colbert Epstein 24/7
    Fuck no the sexual predators that were abusing all those girls need to be outed keep on dismissing Epstein and his cohorts! Like I’ve stated I don’t give two fucks about how fucked up the democrats are or if they can win elections 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,808
    nicknyr15 said:
    Dems are going to be locked out of statewide offices in 2028 through a combination of purging of voter rolls, new voter ID requirements, state and federal judge appointments, redistricting, last minute changes, floods of big money and stupid people believing stupid shit. Imagine what is already happening behind the scenes right now in Tejas, for example.

    It’s too late to fix what’s already been broken and by the time 2028 rolls around, forget about it.

    Lol. 

    Maybe focusing less on Epstein and Colbert and dems should instead be showing off their stellar “ground game” that they brag about, especially in all the regions they lose 70/30… not even people facing an elevated risk of deportation under Trump voted for them last year. But no, everything is a conspiracy…Colbert Epstein 24/7
    Fuck no the sexual predators that were abusing all those girls need to be outed keep on dismissing Epstein and his cohorts! Like I’ve stated I don’t give two fucks about how fucked up the democrats are or if they can win elections 

    So pressure your NYS ADA and the FBI …That’s their job. The democrats job is to win elections consistently so they can make the country better.

    playing prosecutor against trump has failed politically so many times…the ONLY time they beat him is when they focused on his record… hmmmmmm
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,540
    nicknyr15 said:
    Dems are going to be locked out of statewide offices in 2028 through a combination of purging of voter rolls, new voter ID requirements, state and federal judge appointments, redistricting, last minute changes, floods of big money and stupid people believing stupid shit. Imagine what is already happening behind the scenes right now in Tejas, for example.

    It’s too late to fix what’s already been broken and by the time 2028 rolls around, forget about it.

    Lol. 

    Maybe focusing less on Epstein and Colbert and dems should instead be showing off their stellar “ground game” that they brag about, especially in all the regions they lose 70/30… not even people facing an elevated risk of deportation under Trump voted for them last year. But no, everything is a conspiracy…Colbert Epstein 24/7
    Fuck no the sexual predators that were abusing all those girls need to be outed keep on dismissing Epstein and his cohorts! Like I’ve stated I don’t give two fucks about how fucked up the democrats are or if they can win elections 

    So pressure your NYS ADA and the FBI …That’s their job. The democrats job is to win elections consistently so they can make the country better.

    playing prosecutor against trump has failed politically so many times…the ONLY time they beat him is when they focused on his record… hmmmmmm
    Yes but you are the one that wants folks to gloss over one if not thee biggest sexual assault scandal in our history that most likely involved the prick occupying the WH! lol FBI who’s the current director of the FBI? 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Vance is out performing three key Democrats in recent polls, amid the Colbert Epstein uproar that The Democrats have been orchestrating. 


    The proof is right there … the people are not supporting Democrats even during this Epstein Colbert uproar, yetmore democrat conspiracy theories. There’s a sure fire away to connect with voters…

     

    Within the MOE on two of them, the third being AOC. And 13% undecided. Obviously time to disband the party. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    nicknyr15 said:
    Dems are going to be locked out of statewide offices in 2028 through a combination of purging of voter rolls, new voter ID requirements, state and federal judge appointments, redistricting, last minute changes, floods of big money and stupid people believing stupid shit. Imagine what is already happening behind the scenes right now in Tejas, for example.

    It’s too late to fix what’s already been broken and by the time 2028 rolls around, forget about it.

    Lol. 

    Maybe focusing less on Epstein and Colbert and dems should instead be showing off their stellar “ground game” that they brag about, especially in all the regions they lose 70/30… not even people facing an elevated risk of deportation under Trump voted for them last year. But no, everything is a conspiracy…Colbert Epstein 24/7
    First, who is focusing on Colbert exactly? I’m seeing all manner of opinion pieces on Fox and NRO so I guess that’s the D’s fault. 

    Second, yes great idea, political genius. Trump is getting hammered on all sides, especially his base, and your advice is for Democrats not to try to leverage it, rather publicly focus on their own challenges. That’s really great political advice. It must be your long career of winning political strategy that leads you to this conclusion. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    The only way Democrats will ever win another election is by advertising their weaknesses over and over so Lex is satisfied with the political penance. In no way should they ever challenge or discuss Trump.  Got it. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    The only way Democrats will ever win another election is by advertising their weaknesses over and over so Lex is satisfied with the political penance. In no way should they ever challenge or discuss Trump.  Got it. 
    Nope, not until I stop posting.
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