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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    After the largest dam removal in US history, Indigenous youth paddled 300 miles down the restored Klamath River. The journey, led by Paddle Tribal Waters, reconnected Native communities to ancestral waters and honored decades of tribal activism. Salmon have already begun returning, signaling rapid ecological recovery and renewed cultural ties.

    Read more: https://cnn.it/44YTqBr
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    mickeyrat said:
    After the largest dam removal in US history, Indigenous youth paddled 300 miles down the restored Klamath River. The journey, led by Paddle Tribal Waters, reconnected Native communities to ancestral waters and honored decades of tribal activism. Salmon have already begun returning, signaling rapid ecological recovery and renewed cultural ties.

    Read more: https://cnn.it/44YTqBr

    That's such a great story.  
    Many years ago, my brother lived outside one of the reservation areas up there so we heard a fair amount about the indigenous peoples' struggles to have the river freed of that dam and to have more control of the area restored to the tribal peoples.  
    Little victories that make a huge difference for some lives.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    I didn't really know where to place this, so i picked this thread... For me, I just always basically figured this was the case, and between all other living things in earth (fwiw, I'm an atheist). 

    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    PJ_Soul said:
    I didn't really know where to place this, so i picked this thread... For me, I just always basically figured this was the case, and between all other living things in earth (fwiw, I'm an atheist). 


    Fascinating, thanks for sharing this!

    Mother nature is so wise and amazing.  How is it that humans, with our big brains, could have fallen so far (at risk of our own peril) from that wisdom?  
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    A data center the size of manhattan? Well, that should bode well for the planet. Someone ask AI in which year will planet earth become uninhabitable, please? Anyone know any AI guys or gals? Anyone?

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/16/zuckerberg-meta-data-center-ai-manhattan
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    A data center the size of manhattan? Well, that should bode well for the planet. Someone ask AI in which year will planet earth become uninhabitable, please? Anyone know any AI guys or gals? Anyone?

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/16/zuckerberg-meta-data-center-ai-manhattan

    I don't see what the problem here is, bud.  A data center the size of Manhattan would only use use about 750 quadrillion watts of power per hour and most likely would not heat the planet up more the 5 degrees Celsius.   No biggie.

    We can do this, baby!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Greeeaaaat. 

    Trump admin proposes to revoke EPA’s ability to make rules about climate pollution

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/29/climate/trump-epa-endangerment-finding

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,851
    edited July 29
    brianlux said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    A data center the size of manhattan? Well, that should bode well for the planet. Someone ask AI in which year will planet earth become uninhabitable, please? Anyone know any AI guys or gals? Anyone?

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/16/zuckerberg-meta-data-center-ai-manhattan

    I don't see what the problem here is, bud.  A data center the size of Manhattan would only use use about 750 quadrillion watts of power per hour and most likely would not heat the planet up more the 5 degrees Celsius.   No biggie.

    We can do this, baby!

    I tried getting a correlations to AI but AI wouldn’t bite, best reply…this may be before Jeff retires, so get ready…

    “According to some estimates, Earth could become uninhabitable for humans within the next 1.75 billion years due to the sun's increasing brightness. However, other sources say the timeframe could be closer to 1.1-1.2 billion years. Some models even suggest that Earth could become uninhabitable within the current century due to climate change. These shorter timeframes are based on the impacts of climate change on human survival, rather than the sun's evolution. Ultimately, the exact date when Earth becomes uninhabitable is uncertain and depends on various factors.”


    ok, tried pollution, you win…


    “While the Earth isn't expected to become completely uninhabitable due to pollution in the near future, certain regions could become significantly less hospitable for human populations within the next few decades due to climate change impacts. Reports indicate that we have a limited window of time, potentially until 2040, to limit global warming and avoid irreversible damage. 



  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    PJ_Soul said:
    Greeeaaaat. 

    Trump admin proposes to revoke EPA’s ability to make rules about climate pollution

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/29/climate/trump-epa-endangerment-finding


    Fits perfectly with his m.o.:  destroy and create havoc.  He is tearing down as many environmental safeguards as possible, not to mention putting a madman in change of health.  Rat Fink Kennedy is ridding the agency he rules over of people who work to promote preventative medicine because he finds those people to be too "woke".  I guess we should all start taking our daily chlorine cocktails.  
    His entire agenda is based on destroying democracy, ruining lives, and ruining the planet as much as possible.  I'd say that qualifies as a good definition for "evil".  
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • mickeyrat
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    BP has made its largest oil and natural gas discovery in 25 years off the coast of Brazil, in a potential big boost for the British company following its strategic shift away from renewable energy to refocus on fossil fuels.

    Read more: https://cnn.it/452LOhE
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