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THEBIBLEISTEN said:Gern Blansten said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:Gern Blansten said:I think it's more likely (as others have previously mentioned) that it was a "let's finish this tour and then give us your decision" type of thing.
Clearly there have been changes the last few years. Josh adding vocals, shorter set lists, short tours, less variety in the setlists (which means they aren't practicing)...my guess is that Matt just wants more family time and he doesn't like getting uprooted for albums, practice, tours, etc.
I think sound checks are the only time they work out the rare songs they play.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
I remember thinking that the 2025 dates were odd....why just tour for a month?
probably overthinking it, lol
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
This is in no way meant to minimize Matt's talent or work, but if Iron Maiden can survive the loss of Nicko McBrain touring with them, then the same will be true for Pearl Jam.0
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Gern Blansten said:I remember thinking that the 2025 dates were odd....why just tour for a month?
probably overthinking it, lol
I've always assumed, the short runs are as much to keep the entire Pearl Jam Corp going. Has to be a substantial amount of resources on payroll.
They also scratch the itch for the members to perform live music to their thirsty fanbase.0 -
AfghanTwilight said:This is in no way meant to minimize Matt's talent or work, but if Iron Maiden can survive the loss of Nicko McBrain touring with them, then the same will be true for Pearl Jam.
I've always been amazed at Matt's writing contributions. Both with SG and PJRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
I always wished PJ would have been more open to Matt's entire talent -- letting him infuse a bit of that chaotic energy he displayed with Soundgarden.0
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Well, Hollywood #1 2025 was just my 3rd PJ show. I know, stupid. I saw them in Brasil in 2005 and 2011 in big stadiums, from the floor. But I was so amazed by this PIT experience. I love the D Matter cd. I really want to see them again. And relax PJ fans, Springsteen is 75 and playing for 2:40 - 3:00 hours, 27 song setlist (altough he may reduce it a little after 2023-2025 tour). I think bands like E Street Band (who lost sax and organ players already), U2, PJ, Stones and a few others really can't go on without the vocals (a little obvious) because they are so unique. So, after Hollywod show I said to myself: PJ is the band to follow after Bruce retires (well, he will probably tour solo and maybe with other small bands, and maybe even one more tour with E Street Band). So, I think Vedder and the guys are still young. Really really need to see them a few more times. Can't stop listening to the Nugs cd of this 2025 show.Post edited by GHOST26 on0
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Gern Blansten said:I remember thinking that the 2025 dates were odd....why just tour for a month?
probably overthinking it, lol
We dug that 2023 leg - in fact we had a thought the sets get weirder on the shorter legs in not-as-big cities.Randall's Island, NY 9/29/1996, Randall's Island, NY 6/8/1997 (Ed and Mike), Jones Beach, NY 8/23/2000, Los Angeles, CA 7/10/2006, Hartford, CT 6/27/2008, Los Angeles, CA 10/6/2009, San Diego, CA 11/21/2013, Los Angeles, CA 11/24/2013, MSG, NY 5/1/2016, Seattle, WA 8/10/2018, Los Angeles, CA 5/6/2022, Los Angeles, CA 5/7/2022, Camden, NJ 9/14/2022, St Paul 8/31/2023, St Paul 9/2/2023, Las Vegas 5/18/24, MSG NY 9/3/24, Philadelphia PA 9/9/24, Ohana CA 9/27/24, Atlanta, GA 4/29/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/16/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/18/250 -
Wilco87 said:Pap said:Thank you so much for being the glue of this band when they most needed it, MFC!
Thank you for being the engine of this plane for 27 consecutive years!
Take it easy, and enjoy your time with your loved ones!
Even if you're feeling that you don't have much to say these days, we'll always cherish your musics (Skin Yard, Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, Pearl Jam, Harrybu McCage, Hater, Tone Dogs, Matt Cameron, 3rd Secret, Ten Commandos, Wellwater Conspiracy, Drumgasm, Nighttime Boogie Association)
Photo by Geoff Whitman
Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 20250 -
josevolution said:The only complaint I have about how this went down is, they should have in my honest opinion let the fans know that the 2025 spring shows would be his last! I bet some folks would have done anything to have seen him one last time! After the MSG show in September I thought ok I’ll get another shot at seeing them again.0
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Poncier said:Merkin Baller said:Gern Blansten said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:Gern Blansten said:I think it's more likely (as others have previously mentioned) that it was a "let's finish this tour and then give us your decision" type of thing.
Clearly there have been changes the last few years. Josh adding vocals, shorter set lists, short tours, less variety in the setlists (which means they aren't practicing)...my guess is that Matt just wants more family time and he doesn't like getting uprooted for albums, practice, tours, etc.
I think sound checks are the only time they work out the rare songs they play.
My sense is that they don't practice much, aside from soundcheck, outside of the pre-tour prep.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
MFC!!!!0
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Loujoe said:josevolution said:The only complaint I have about how this went down is, they should have in my honest opinion let the fans know that the 2025 spring shows would be his last! I bet some folks would have done anything to have seen him one last time! After the MSG show in September I thought ok I’ll get another shot at seeing them again.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Loujoe said:josevolution said:The only complaint I have about how this went down is, they should have in my honest opinion let the fans know that the 2025 spring shows would be his last! I bet some folks would have done anything to have seen him one last time! After the MSG show in September I thought ok I’ll get another shot at seeing them again.
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josevolution said:Loujoe said:josevolution said:The only complaint I have about how this went down is, they should have in my honest opinion let the fans know that the 2025 spring shows would be his last! I bet some folks would have done anything to have seen him one last time! After the MSG show in September I thought ok I’ll get another shot at seeing them again.
Definitely deserves a proper send off and yes disappointing way to end a relationship with all of us.
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Gern Blansten said:I remember thinking that the 2025 dates were odd....why just tour for a month?
probably overthinking it, lol0 -
bootlegger10 said:Gern Blansten said:I remember thinking that the 2025 dates were odd....why just tour for a month?
probably overthinking it, lol
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
bootlegger10 said:Gern Blansten said:I remember thinking that the 2025 dates were odd....why just tour for a month?
probably overthinking it, lol
Matt was also said in at least one interview earlier this year that he doesn't know how much touring he had left in him (paraphrased)... that was in public. For all we know, he could have been saying this in private to the band for the last 2 or 3 years.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they knew before DM was released hat it would be their last go around w/ Matt.0 -
Wonder if Barrett Martin is available to step in.
Totally going to miss Matt! I can't think of anyone else who could have pulled off what he did in '98 to help the band. I will miss him and his future contributions but am so grateful that he gave the world so much.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0
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