hal, this stuff all started on october 6. get it straight.
You completely misunderstood his diatribe. Grow up or mind your own business.
dude, you are a man that has no concept of the history in the region. read a book.
you are the one saying all of this is hamas's fault and it all started on oct 7. you have not admitted that israel's policies have contributed to that attack. you make excuses for settlement expansion. you have stated multiple times that you only care about how this conflict impacts american interests. you will not answer when i have three times asked you how much palestinian blood will avenge 10/7.
you are an unserious person and you block out the facts that every one of us has presented to you.
it must be tough being the smartest man on the train. maybe that is why you feel you believe you have no friends on here.
also it is all the fault of the democrats.
perhaps it is you that should grow up, mind your business, and for god's sake, read a book.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
how is it that the state of israel can very accurately pinpoint high level figures in both lebanon and iran to great effect with relatively minimal collateral damage, but this same fucking government cant do so in Gaza or the west bank?
riddle me that?
this as well. didnt god "give" the land twice already? 2 temple mounts suggest so, no?
how many bites at that apple do they get?
israel is doing genocide. you do not need pinpoint strikes when the goal is to eliminate everyone.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
hal, this stuff all started on october 6. get it straight.
You completely misunderstood his diatribe. Grow up or mind your own business.
dude, you are a man that has no concept of the history in the region. read a book.
you are the one saying all of this is hamas's fault and it all started on oct 7. you have not admitted that israel's policies have contributed to that attack. you make excuses for settlement expansion. you have stated multiple times that you only care about how this conflict impacts american interests. you will not answer when i have three times asked you how much palestinian blood will avenge 10/7.
you are an unserious person and you block out the facts that every one of us has presented to you.
it must be tough being the smartest man on the train. maybe that is why you feel you believe you have no friends on here.
also it is all the fault of the democrats.
perhaps it is you that should grow up, mind your business, and for god's sake, read a book.
you’re the one that entered a convo amongst others, and off topic by making it about me, the first rule for losing debates. If you are making accusations, have the decency to provide evidence I did any of that. And Let’s argue about who knows more about the ME. Another brilliant ultra leftist.
My point above is simple. If you know anything about the West Bank, you certainly know that if Israel were to hand it over, a land that was theirs thousands of years before Muhammad was around, but I’m not saying they shouldn’t share it, just pointing out facts, so don’t misquote me, there will need to be a DMZ. That’s clear to anyone familiar with the WB topography, history as an invasion point, and where the population centers exist. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand the problems there.
hal, this stuff all started on october 6. get it straight.
You completely misunderstood his diatribe. Grow up or mind your own business.
dude, you are a man that has no concept of the history in the region. read a book.
you are the one saying all of this is hamas's fault and it all started on oct 7. you have not admitted that israel's policies have contributed to that attack. you make excuses for settlement expansion. you have stated multiple times that you only care about how this conflict impacts american interests. you will not answer when i have three times asked you how much palestinian blood will avenge 10/7.
you are an unserious person and you block out the facts that every one of us has presented to you.
it must be tough being the smartest man on the train. maybe that is why you feel you believe you have no friends on here.
also it is all the fault of the democrats.
perhaps it is you that should grow up, mind your business, and for god's sake, read a book.
you’re the one that entered a convo amongst others, and off topic by making it about me, the first rule for losing debates. If you are making accusations, have the decency to provide evidence I did any of that. And Let’s argue about who knows more about the ME. Another brilliant ultra leftist.
My point above is simple. If you know anything about the West Bank, you certainly know that if Israel were to hand it over, a land that was theirs thousands of years before Muhammad was around, but I’m not saying they shouldn’t share it, just pointing out facts, so don’t misquote me, there will need to be a DMZ. That’s clear to anyone familiar with the WB topography, history as an invasion point, and where the population centers exist. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand the problems there.
its a free forum. people can comment where they see fit.
you are the one saying everything started on 10/7 when CLEARLY it didn't. when given links and basic info that this has been going on forever, that israel is taking lands and illegally building settlements on them, bombing hospitals, bombing women and children, turning off water and electricity, burning olive groves, blocking refugees from getting medical and food aid, and crickets from you.
i ask you, if israel was the good actor in this entire situation, why is the un always voting to sanction them? are you calling all of the entire un antisemitic?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.
When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.
my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.
And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.
Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..
There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.
or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.
What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?
What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?
Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate
Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?
He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.
The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?
Intolerance of what? Just making shit up again?
Just look at the prior comment at 8.52 DC time. If you don’t understand you can’t possibly be typing honest shyt in this space. Intolerance 100%
Can someone sane help explain this so called intolerance that I am being accused of? I honestly feel like I am trying to follow a string on a corkboard from a Q adherent.
You continually make baseless accusations.
why don’t you try to read your own comments fairly before feigning ignorance
It would be better If you actually quoted an example of his intolerance rather than a passive-aggressive reply like the one you just did. You’ve made a habit of saying things, getting called out, then declaring you were misunderstood.
Seriously man, stop stirring this up. I used to think you commented here honestly. This is the second time you pulled this crap.
regarding the Hamas negotiation point, I took the time to provide a detailed explanation two days ago, after you asked for it a few times. Just posted it again above. So you instead decide to ignore that explanation, and go support this commenters complete dishonesty, which is also addressed in detail for you if you seriously care, instead of running to your comrade safe space to support their nonsense.
You did this a few months ago. You asked endlessly for an explanation, mocked me, I provided it, and you never responded. Either engage honestly to my comments or please put me on ignore. I can’t believe the level of lack of candor to support leftist views here.
(About tolerance, They made an accusation I was making shit up and I explaned that was a reply to someone making stuff up about annexation, not me. It’s all in this quote box, but they plays fake victim, and you fall for it. The crap about you ignoring the negotiation explanation was reposted five minutes ago).
You have no idea the size of the plank in your own eye. No one knows what you mean half the time. If I fail to reply it’s because I’m tired of the discussion that is going nowhere. You would be better served to write with more specificity. I read your reply yesterday and I don’t know what you’re trying to say. And I certainly had no idea that it connected to your comment to Static saying he’s intolerant, which is what you seem to be imply in this latest post.
Are you trying on purpose to ignore that July 2 clarification that YOU requested multiple times, reposted three times, including the date?
It’s even reposted on this current page # 63 and bolded.
You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.
When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.
my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.
And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.
Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..
There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.
or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.
What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?
What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?
Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate
Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?
He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.
The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?
Intolerance of what? Just making shit up again?
Just look at the prior comment at 8.52 DC time. If you don’t understand you can’t possibly be typing honest shyt in this space. Intolerance 100%
Can someone sane help explain this so called intolerance that I am being accused of? I honestly feel like I am trying to follow a string on a corkboard from a Q adherent.
You continually make baseless accusations.
why don’t you try to read your own comments fairly before feigning ignorance
It would be better If you actually quoted an example of his intolerance rather than a passive-aggressive reply like the one you just did. You’ve made a habit of saying things, getting called out, then declaring you were misunderstood.
Seriously man, stop stirring this up. I used to think you commented here honestly. This is the second time you pulled this crap.
regarding the Hamas negotiation point, I took the time to provide a detailed explanation two days ago, after you asked for it a few times. Just posted it again above. So you instead decide to ignore that explanation, and go support this commenters complete dishonesty, which is also addressed in detail for you if you seriously care, instead of running to your comrade safe space to support their nonsense.
You did this a few months ago. You asked endlessly for an explanation, mocked me, I provided it, and you never responded. Either engage honestly to my comments or please put me on ignore. I can’t believe the level of lack of candor to support leftist views here.
(About tolerance, They made an accusation I was making shit up and I explaned that was a reply to someone making stuff up about annexation, not me. It’s all in this quote box, but they plays fake victim, and you fall for it. The crap about you ignoring the negotiation explanation was reposted five minutes ago).
You have no idea the size of the plank in your own eye. No one knows what you mean half the time. If I fail to reply it’s because I’m tired of the discussion that is going nowhere. You would be better served to write with more specificity. I read your reply yesterday and I don’t know what you’re trying to say. And I certainly had no idea that it connected to your comment to Static saying he’s intolerant, which is what you seem to be imply in this latest post.
Are you trying on purpose to ignore that July 2 clarification that YOU requested multiple times, reposted three times, including the date?
It’s even reposted on this current page # 63 and bolded.
No I’m saying the argument doesn’t make sense.
By never responding directly to the clarification. I doubt you took the time to find it. Please just ignore me, I’d deserve that, thanks!
hal, this stuff all started on october 6. get it straight.
You completely misunderstood his diatribe. Grow up or mind your own business.
dude, you are a man that has no concept of the history in the region. read a book.
you are the one saying all of this is hamas's fault and it all started on oct 7. you have not admitted that israel's policies have contributed to that attack. you make excuses for settlement expansion. you have stated multiple times that you only care about how this conflict impacts american interests. you will not answer when i have three times asked you how much palestinian blood will avenge 10/7.
you are an unserious person and you block out the facts that every one of us has presented to you.
it must be tough being the smartest man on the train. maybe that is why you feel you believe you have no friends on here.
also it is all the fault of the democrats.
perhaps it is you that should grow up, mind your business, and for god's sake, read a book.
you’re the one that entered a convo amongst others, and off topic by making it about me, the first rule for losing debates. If you are making accusations, have the decency to provide evidence I did any of that. And Let’s argue about who knows more about the ME. Another brilliant ultra leftist.
My point above is simple. If you know anything about the West Bank, you certainly know that if Israel were to hand it over, a land that was theirs thousands of years before Muhammad was around, but I’m not saying they shouldn’t share it, just pointing out facts, so don’t misquote me, there will need to be a DMZ. That’s clear to anyone familiar with the WB topography, history as an invasion point, and where the population centers exist. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand the problems there.
its a free forum. people can comment where they see fit.
you are the one saying everything started on 10/7 when CLEARLY it didn't. when given links and basic info that this has been going on forever, that israel is taking lands and illegally building settlements on them, bombing hospitals, bombing women and children, turning off water and electricity, burning olive groves, blocking refugees from getting medical and food aid, and crickets from you.
i ask you, if israel was the good actor in this entire situation, why is the un always voting to sanction them? are you calling all of the entire un antisemitic?
Sure it’s free and the one thing the owners ask is we don’t target each other. That’s literally what you did the past few days on this topic..
again, if you have a quote where I said “everything started” oct seven please share
what I did say was the “Gaza war” started Oct seven. it’s an actual topic that had its own wiki for a long time. I didn’t make it up. Its when a cease fire ended and Hamas decided civilians on both sides would die. Right now is a rare time that Hamas is expressing interest in some negotiation, likely because their masters, the Iranians, have problems right now. But hey, let’s hope they get a deal. Usually they’d just continue the fight by hiding in tunnels underneath civilians.
hal, this stuff all started on october 6. get it straight.
You completely misunderstood his diatribe. Grow up or mind your own business.
dude, you are a man that has no concept of the history in the region. read a book.
you are the one saying all of this is hamas's fault and it all started on oct 7. you have not admitted that israel's policies have contributed to that attack. you make excuses for settlement expansion. you have stated multiple times that you only care about how this conflict impacts american interests. you will not answer when i have three times asked you how much palestinian blood will avenge 10/7.
you are an unserious person and you block out the facts that every one of us has presented to you.
it must be tough being the smartest man on the train. maybe that is why you feel you believe you have no friends on here.
also it is all the fault of the democrats.
perhaps it is you that should grow up, mind your business, and for god's sake, read a book.
you’re the one that entered a convo amongst others, and off topic by making it about me, the first rule for losing debates. If you are making accusations, have the decency to provide evidence I did any of that. And Let’s argue about who knows more about the ME. Another brilliant ultra leftist.
My point above is simple. If you know anything about the West Bank, you certainly know that if Israel were to hand it over, a land that was theirs thousands of years before Muhammad was around, but I’m not saying they shouldn’t share it, just pointing out facts, so don’t misquote me, there will need to be a DMZ. That’s clear to anyone familiar with the WB topography, history as an invasion point, and where the population centers exist. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand the problems there.
its a free forum. people can comment where they see fit.
you are the one saying everything started on 10/7 when CLEARLY it didn't. when given links and basic info that this has been going on forever, that israel is taking lands and illegally building settlements on them, bombing hospitals, bombing women and children, turning off water and electricity, burning olive groves, blocking refugees from getting medical and food aid, and crickets from you.
i ask you, if israel was the good actor in this entire situation, why is the un always voting to sanction them? are you calling all of the entire un antisemitic?
Sure it’s free and the one thing the owners ask is we don’t target each other. That’s literally what you did the past few days on this topic..
again, if you have a quote where I said “everything started” oct seven please share
what I did say was the “Gaza war” started Oct seven. it’s an actual topic that had its own wiki for a long time. I didn’t make it up. Its when a cease fire ended and Hamas decided civilians on both sides would die. Right now is a rare time that Hamas is expressing interest in some negotiation, likely because their masters, the Iranians, have problems right now. But hey, let’s hope they get a deal. Usually they’d just continue the fight by hiding in tunnels underneath civilians.
You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.
When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.
my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.
And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.
Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..
There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.
or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.
What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?
What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?
Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate
Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?
He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.
The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?
Intolerance of what? Just making shit up again?
Just look at the prior comment at 8.52 DC time. If you don’t understand you can’t possibly be typing honest shyt in this space. Intolerance 100%
Can someone sane help explain this so called intolerance that I am being accused of? I honestly feel like I am trying to follow a string on a corkboard from a Q adherent.
You continually make baseless accusations.
why don’t you try to read your own comments fairly before feigning ignorance
It would be better If you actually quoted an example of his intolerance rather than a passive-aggressive reply like the one you just did. You’ve made a habit of saying things, getting called out, then declaring you were misunderstood.
Seriously man, stop stirring this up. I used to think you commented here honestly. This is the second time you pulled this crap.
regarding the Hamas negotiation point, I took the time to provide a detailed explanation two days ago, after you asked for it a few times. Just posted it again above. So you instead decide to ignore that explanation, and go support this commenters complete dishonesty, which is also addressed in detail for you if you seriously care, instead of running to your comrade safe space to support their nonsense.
You did this a few months ago. You asked endlessly for an explanation, mocked me, I provided it, and you never responded. Either engage honestly to my comments or please put me on ignore. I can’t believe the level of lack of candor to support leftist views here.
(About tolerance, They made an accusation I was making shit up and I explaned that was a reply to someone making stuff up about annexation, not me. It’s all in this quote box, but they plays fake victim, and you fall for it. The crap about you ignoring the negotiation explanation was reposted five minutes ago).
You have no idea the size of the plank in your own eye. No one knows what you mean half the time. If I fail to reply it’s because I’m tired of the discussion that is going nowhere. You would be better served to write with more specificity. I read your reply yesterday and I don’t know what you’re trying to say. And I certainly had no idea that it connected to your comment to Static saying he’s intolerant, which is what you seem to be imply in this latest post.
Are you trying on purpose to ignore that July 2 clarification that YOU requested multiple times, reposted three times, including the date?
It’s even reposted on this current page # 63 and bolded.
No I’m saying the argument doesn’t make sense.
By never responding directly to the clarification. I doubt you took the time to find it. Please just ignore me, I’d deserve that, thanks!
See here’s more ambiguity. You are butt hurt that I didn’t reply and say I never took time to “find it”. Find what exactly?
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You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.
When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.
my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.
And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.
Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..
There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.
or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.
What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?
What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?
Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate
Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?
He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.
The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?
So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"
That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”
this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.
hal, this stuff all started on october 6. get it straight.
You completely misunderstood his diatribe. Grow up or mind your own business.
dude, you are a man that has no concept of the history in the region. read a book.
you are the one saying all of this is hamas's fault and it all started on oct 7. you have not admitted that israel's policies have contributed to that attack. you make excuses for settlement expansion. you have stated multiple times that you only care about how this conflict impacts american interests. you will not answer when i have three times asked you how much palestinian blood will avenge 10/7.
you are an unserious person and you block out the facts that every one of us has presented to you.
it must be tough being the smartest man on the train. maybe that is why you feel you believe you have no friends on here.
also it is all the fault of the democrats.
perhaps it is you that should grow up, mind your business, and for god's sake, read a book.
you’re the one that entered a convo amongst others, and off topic by making it about me, the first rule for losing debates. If you are making accusations, have the decency to provide evidence I did any of that. And Let’s argue about who knows more about the ME. Another brilliant ultra leftist.
My point above is simple. If you know anything about the West Bank, you certainly know that if Israel were to hand it over, a land that was theirs thousands of years before Muhammad was around, but I’m not saying they shouldn’t share it, just pointing out facts, so don’t misquote me, there will need to be a DMZ. That’s clear to anyone familiar with the WB topography, history as an invasion point, and where the population centers exist. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand the problems there.
its a free forum. people can comment where they see fit.
you are the one saying everything started on 10/7 when CLEARLY it didn't. when given links and basic info that this has been going on forever, that israel is taking lands and illegally building settlements on them, bombing hospitals, bombing women and children, turning off water and electricity, burning olive groves, blocking refugees from getting medical and food aid, and crickets from you.
i ask you, if israel was the good actor in this entire situation, why is the un always voting to sanction them? are you calling all of the entire un antisemitic?
Sure it’s free and the one thing the owners ask is we don’t target each other. That’s literally what you did the past few days on this topic..
again, if you have a quote where I said “everything started” oct seven please share
what I did say was the “Gaza war” started Oct seven. it’s an actual topic that had its own wiki for a long time. I didn’t make it up. Its when a cease fire ended and Hamas decided civilians on both sides would die. Right now is a rare time that Hamas is expressing interest in some negotiation, likely because their masters, the Iranians, have problems right now. But hey, let’s hope they get a deal. Usually they’d just continue the fight by hiding in tunnels underneath civilians.
You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.
When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.
my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.
And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.
Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..
There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.
or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.
What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?
What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?
Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate
Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?
He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.
The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?
So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"
That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”
this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.
Holy crap. I told you I read it. I told you I saw it. I still don't understand what you meant in the context of what you wrote before that. You said you "didn't mean to imply" what you did. But what you wrote originally has no bearing to what your "corrected" statement said. So I gave up asking because it's not that important.
You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.
When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.
my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.
And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.
Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..
There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.
or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.
What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?
What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?
Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate
Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?
He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.
The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?
So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"
That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”
this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.
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Holy crap. I told you I read it. I told you I saw it. I still don't understand what you meant in the context of what you wrote before that. You said you "didn't mean to imply" what you did. But what you wrote originally has no bearing to what your "corrected" statement said. So I gave up asking because it's not that important.
But it didn’t stop you from taking the time to attack. Any more words I type here and schecky will be thrilled. He is loving this crap. Thru its history, Hamas hasn’t demonstrated a willingness to negotiate to share disputed land. They instead inspire others to spill blood around the world. I’ll leave the it at that, and note I did apologize for that original comment where my edit went wrong, but somehow you were aware of that and yet still looking for a “bearing”/connection to the original comment, when it doesn’t exist.
You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.
When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.
my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.
And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.
Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..
There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.
or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.
What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?
What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?
Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate
Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?
He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.
The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?
So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"
That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”
this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.
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Holy crap. I told you I read it. I told you I saw it. I still don't understand what you meant in the context of what you wrote before that. You said you "didn't mean to imply" what you did. But what you wrote originally has no bearing to what your "corrected" statement said. So I gave up asking because it's not that important.
But it didn’t stop you from taking the time to attack. Any more words I type here and schecky will be thrilled. He is loving this crap. Thru its history, Hamas hasn’t demonstrated a willingness to negotiate to share disputed land. They instead inspire others to spill blood around the world. I’ll leave the it at that, and note I did apologize for that original comment where my edit went wrong, but somehow you were aware of that and yet still looking for a “bearing”/connection to the original comment, when it doesn’t exist.
The reason I “attack” as you say, is because of your recent proclivity to paint everyone with the same brush. It certainly appears like you’re reading things on Reddit and then applying it over here. And yes, I’m defensive of many people here because I consider them friends and I don’t like them being attacked for things they never said.
As far as your statement about Hamas, I’m certainly not saying that they supported the two state solution. But the PLO certainly did. However Bibi is against it and as far as I know always has been. Barack and Olmert supported it, by contrast.
So today, from my view, both Hamas and the Israeli leadership are impediments to peace.
You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.
When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.
my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.
And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.
Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..
There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.
or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.
What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?
What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?
Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate
Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?
He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.
The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?
So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"
That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”
this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.
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Holy crap. I told you I read it. I told you I saw it. I still don't understand what you meant in the context of what you wrote before that. You said you "didn't mean to imply" what you did. But what you wrote originally has no bearing to what your "corrected" statement said. So I gave up asking because it's not that important.
But it didn’t stop you from taking the time to attack. Any more words I type here and schecky will be thrilled. He is loving this crap. Thru its history, Hamas hasn’t demonstrated a willingness to negotiate to share disputed land. They instead inspire others to spill blood around the world. I’ll leave the it at that, and note I did apologize for that original comment where my edit went wrong, but somehow you were aware of that and yet still looking for a “bearing”/connection to the original comment, when it doesn’t exist.
The reason I “attack” as you say, is because of your recent proclivity to paint everyone with the same brush. It certainly appears like you’re reading things on Reddit and then applying it over here. And yes, I’m defensive of many people here because I consider them friends and I don’t like them being attacked for things they never said.
As far as your statement about Hamas, I’m certainly not saying that they supported the two state solution. But the PLO certainly did. However Bibi is against it and as far as I know always has been. Barack and Olmert supported it, by contrast.
So today, from my view, both Hamas and the Israeli leadership are impediments to peace.
Bibi actively funded Hamas and undermined the two state solution. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Speaking of Israel having to give something up, what will it be? Seized territory in Syria? Illegal settlements in the West Bank? Full rights for Palestinians? Right of return? Bibi to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes?
Talk about some taint licking, Bibi bringing a letter to nominate COOTWH for a Nobel peace prize. Everybody should be embarrassed by such prostitution. And ahh, Bibi? What the fuck has COOTWH done to deserve such an honor? Ummm, Bibi? Care to elaborate? Fucking embarrassingly shameful.
Talk about some taint licking, Bibi bringing a letter to nominate COOTWH for a Nobel peace prize. Everybody should be embarrassed by such prostitution. And ahh, Bibi? What the fuck has COOTWH done to deserve such an honor? Ummm, Bibi? Care to elaborate? Fucking embarrassingly shameful.
he gave israel 4 billion dollars in arms and attacked iran on their behalf, so i guess that is worth the nomination?
that was probably trump's asking price to carry out that attack. everything is transactional with him. remember that.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Talk about some taint licking, Bibi bringing a letter to nominate COOTWH for a Nobel peace prize. Everybody should be embarrassed by such prostitution. And ahh, Bibi? What the fuck has COOTWH done to deserve such an honor? Ummm, Bibi? Care to elaborate? Fucking embarrassingly shameful.
he gave israel 4 billion dollars in arms and attacked iran on their behalf, so i guess that is worth the nomination?
that was probably trump's asking price to carry out that attack. everything is transactional with him. remember that.
It’s a disgusting display. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. The Israeli public should be ashamed and embarrassed.
Talk about some taint licking, Bibi bringing a letter to nominate COOTWH for a Nobel peace prize. Everybody should be embarrassed by such prostitution. And ahh, Bibi? What the fuck has COOTWH done to deserve such an honor? Ummm, Bibi? Care to elaborate? Fucking embarrassingly shameful.
he gave israel 4 billion dollars in arms and attacked iran on their behalf, so i guess that is worth the nomination?
that was probably trump's asking price to carry out that attack. everything is transactional with him. remember that.
It’s a disgusting display. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. The Israeli public should be ashamed and embarrassed.
the problem is a schlub like myself can understand that but our media is too stupid to put 2 and 2 together and report it for what it is.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Talk about some taint licking, Bibi bringing a letter to nominate COOTWH for a Nobel peace prize. Everybody should be embarrassed by such prostitution. And ahh, Bibi? What the fuck has COOTWH done to deserve such an honor? Ummm, Bibi? Care to elaborate? Fucking embarrassingly shameful.
he gave israel 4 billion dollars in arms and attacked iran on their behalf, so i guess that is worth the nomination?
that was probably trump's asking price to carry out that attack. everything is transactional with him. remember that.
It’s a disgusting display. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. The Israeli public should be ashamed and embarrassed.
the problem is a schlub like myself can understand that but our media is too stupid to put 2 and 2 together and report it for what it is.
Being nominated by Bibi the Butcher of Gaza is nothing to be proud of and if it were any normal POTUS under these exact circumstances, they’d publicly refuse the nomination and tell the Nobel committee to forget about it.
Talk about some taint licking, Bibi bringing a letter to nominate COOTWH for a Nobel peace prize. Everybody should be embarrassed by such prostitution. And ahh, Bibi? What the fuck has COOTWH done to deserve such an honor? Ummm, Bibi? Care to elaborate? Fucking embarrassingly shameful.
he gave israel 4 billion dollars in arms and attacked iran on their behalf, so i guess that is worth the nomination?
that was probably trump's asking price to carry out that attack. everything is transactional with him. remember that.
It’s a disgusting display. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. The Israeli public should be ashamed and embarrassed.
the problem is a schlub like myself can understand that but our media is too stupid to put 2 and 2 together and report it for what it is.
Being nominated by Bibi the Butcher of Gaza is nothing to be proud of and if it were any normal POTUS under these exact circumstances, they’d publicly refuse the nomination and tell the Nobel committee to forget about it.
The humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip has only worsened, particularly for children. James Elder, UNICEF’s global spokesperson, recently returned from a mission to the region. “In a typical emergency, my job is to go and see the situation, report on it, and share what UNICEF is doing,” he said. “But, in Gaza, 95 per cent of it is to bear witness. I spend entire days in hospitals and camps simply listening to people and hearing the situation. I learned very early on in November or December of 2023 that it was much more important to spend my time sharing the grave violations that are occurring consistently to children rather than speaking about what our program is doing.” His most recent visit was different from the previous ones, he told Isaac Chotiner. Read their full interview, about the wounded children Elder spoke to, the risks people are now willing to take in order to find food, and how parents are trying to cope with unimaginable loss: https://newyorkermag.visitlink.me/jwylBt
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The humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip has only worsened, particularly for children. James Elder, UNICEF’s global spokesperson, recently returned from a mission to the region. “In a typical emergency, my job is to go and see the situation, report on it, and share what UNICEF is doing,” he said. “But, in Gaza, 95 per cent of it is to bear witness. I spend entire days in hospitals and camps simply listening to people and hearing the situation. I learned very early on in November or December of 2023 that it was much more important to spend my time sharing the grave violations that are occurring consistently to children rather than speaking about what our program is doing.” His most recent visit was different from the previous ones, he told Isaac Chotiner. Read their full interview, about the wounded children Elder spoke to, the risks people are now willing to take in order to find food, and how parents are trying to cope with unimaginable loss: https://newyorkermag.visitlink.me/jwylBt
The UN is bigoted towards Israel. Can’t trust a word he says.
Who the fuck are they kidding? Just call it a ghetto. WOW, 600K Hamas? Go ahead, defend and excuse it.
Israeli plan for forced transfer of Gaza’s population ‘a blueprint for crimes against humanity’
Military ordered to turn ruins of Rafah into ‘humanitarian city’ but experts call the plan an internment camp for all Palestinians in Gaza
Israel’s defence minister has laid out plans to force all Palestinians in Gaza into a camp on the ruins of Rafah, in a scheme that legal experts and academics described as a blueprint for crimes against humanity.
Israel Katz said he has ordered Israel’s military to prepare for establishing a camp, which he called a “humanitarian city”, on the ruins of the city of Rafah, Haaretz newspaper reported.
Palestinians would go through “security screening” before entering, and once inside would not be allowed to leave, Katz said at a briefing for Israeli journalists.
Israeli forces would control the perimeter of the site and initially “move” 600,000 Palestinians into the area – mostly people currently displaced in the al-Mawasi area.
Eventually the entire population of Gaza would be housed there, and Israel aims to implement “the emigration plan, which will happen”, Haaretz quoted him saying.
Think about this for a moment. I look forward to the denials and dismissals, as well as excuses. Crickets probably.
It’s Not Antisemitic to Say That Israel Is Responsible for the Unfolding Genocide in Gaza
The contention that the US is in the driver’s seat with Israel the “cop on the beat” is an old and musty one from the 1990s that has not aged well.
In the wake of Zohran Mamdani’s resounding defeat of Andrew Cuomo in the New York City Democratic mayoral primary, politicians in both parties have tried to destroy the democratic socialist’s campaign with slanderous claims that he is antisemitic.
Defending Mamdani from defamation has prompted a renewed call to be hypervigilant about anything that could be deemed antisemitic among his supporters. The strategy among anti-Zionists hoping to avoid charges of antisemitism has been to argue that the issue should be less about Israel and more about our military and political support of Israel: The United States is driving this ethnic cleansing, and Israel, as in the past, is our attack dog—our “cop on the beat”—in the “dangerous neighborhood” of the Middle East. Therefore, the instruction goes, we need to push back when people say that US government policy is controlled by Israel—that it is their lobby, their influence, and their own fascistic political agenda that the US is following in canine fashion.
But the US is following Israel here. We are the dogs—a country leashed to a genocide, without an electoral path to stop the arming of a military that is killing Palestinian children seeking food for sport. The contention that the US is in the driver’s seat with Israel the “cop on the beat” is an old and musty one from the 1990s that has not aged well. It does not correspond with what Israel is perpetrating, nor does it take into account the politics of genocide.
The malignant growth of end-times Christian Zionism—there are more Christian Zionists in the US than the entire Jewish population of the world—has metastasized within the GOP over the past 15 years. What started with accruing votes from megachurch freak shows has become a powerful bloc central to all decision-making in foreign and domestic policy. Christian Zionist anti-intellectualism—which simultaneously seeks dominion in all walks of life while waiting impatiently for the rapture—also needs to be central to our understanding, foremost because Benjamin Netanyahu has largely played its adherents like a fiddle.
We can’t allow an endless argument about what is and isn’t antisemitism when it moves us away from confronting the central issue: the question of how to stop a genocide. A recent poll shows that 82 percent of Israelis support “the transfer (expulsion) of residents of the Gaza Strip to other countries.” In other words, a majority of Israelis support ethnic cleansing. “Genocide is not just a murderous madness,” the author Michael Ignatieff wrote. “It is, more deeply, a politics that promises a utopia beyond politics—one people, one land, one truth, the end of difference. Since genocide is a form of political utopia, it remains an enduring temptation in any multiethnic and multicultural society in crisis.”
This is what we are dealing with: a quasi-religious, sub-imperial madness beyond anything seen since the Nakba. It’s not antisemitic to point out that this is no longer about the needs of the United States, whether for oil or cultivating influence in the Middle East. Trump has already shown in the “Abraham Accords” of his first term that the US can buy friends—or, in the case of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, allow themselves to be bribed and bought off. This is not 1993, with the US seeking friends in the region and a “cop on the beat.” It is about Israel’s desire—and the US’s Christian Zionist Pavlovian response—to eliminate Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank, “from the river to the sea.” It is driven by fascist Israeli politicians and an Israeli public overwhelmingly comfortable with this agenda. It is being supported by this administration because it dovetails with the end-times fascism that drives much of their agenda and inhabits their base. Southern Baptist—not a Jew!—Mike Huckabee being appointed as US ambassador to Israel gives the game away.
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you are the one saying all of this is hamas's fault and it all started on oct 7. you have not admitted that israel's policies have contributed to that attack. you make excuses for settlement expansion. you have stated multiple times that you only care about how this conflict impacts american interests. you will not answer when i have three times asked you how much palestinian blood will avenge 10/7.
you are an unserious person and you block out the facts that every one of us has presented to you.
it must be tough being the smartest man on the train. maybe that is why you feel you believe you have no friends on here.
also it is all the fault of the democrats.
perhaps it is you that should grow up, mind your business, and for god's sake, read a book.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
My point above is simple. If you know anything about the West Bank, you certainly know that if Israel were to hand it over, a land that was theirs thousands of years before Muhammad was around, but I’m not saying they shouldn’t share it, just pointing out facts, so don’t misquote me, there will need to be a DMZ. That’s clear to anyone familiar with the WB topography, history as an invasion point, and where the population centers exist. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand the problems there.
you are the one saying everything started on 10/7 when CLEARLY it didn't. when given links and basic info that this has been going on forever, that israel is taking lands and illegally building settlements on them, bombing hospitals, bombing women and children, turning off water and electricity, burning olive groves, blocking refugees from getting medical and food aid, and crickets from you.
i ask you, if israel was the good actor in this entire situation, why is the un always voting to sanction them? are you calling all of the entire un antisemitic?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
again, if you have a quote where I said “everything started” oct seven please share
what I did say was the “Gaza war” started Oct seven. it’s an actual topic that had its own wiki for a long time. I didn’t make it up. Its when a cease fire ended and Hamas decided civilians on both sides would die. Right now is a rare time that Hamas is expressing interest in some negotiation, likely because their masters, the Iranians, have problems right now. But hey, let’s hope they get a deal. Usually they’d just continue the fight by hiding in tunnels underneath civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war
and lol the old days when I’d get cursed out by some for using wiki as a source.
Palestinians fear razing of villages in West Bank, as settlers circle their homes
An Israeli directive gives a green light for demolitions in Masafer Yatta, where residents keep watch at night for attackers in the darkness
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/07/palestinians-fear-razing-of-villages-in-west-bank-as-settlers-circle-their-homes
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Yea, right, Israel is going to give something up.
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that was probably trump's asking price to carry out that attack. everything is transactional with him. remember that.
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Israeli plan for forced transfer of Gaza’s population ‘a blueprint for crimes against humanity’
Military ordered to turn ruins of Rafah into ‘humanitarian city’ but experts call the plan an internment camp for all Palestinians in Gaza
Israel’s defence minister has laid out plans to force all Palestinians in Gaza into a camp on the ruins of Rafah, in a scheme that legal experts and academics described as a blueprint for crimes against humanity.
Israel Katz said he has ordered Israel’s military to prepare for establishing a camp, which he called a “humanitarian city”, on the ruins of the city of Rafah, Haaretz newspaper reported.
Palestinians would go through “security screening” before entering, and once inside would not be allowed to leave, Katz said at a briefing for Israeli journalists.
Israeli forces would control the perimeter of the site and initially “move” 600,000 Palestinians into the area – mostly people currently displaced in the al-Mawasi area.
Eventually the entire population of Gaza would be housed there, and Israel aims to implement “the emigration plan, which will happen”, Haaretz quoted him saying.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/07/israeli-minister-reveals-plan-to-force-population-of-gaza-into-camp-on-ruins-of-rafah
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It’s Not Antisemitic to Say That Israel Is Responsible for the Unfolding Genocide in Gaza
Defending Mamdani from defamation has prompted a renewed call to be hypervigilant about anything that could be deemed antisemitic among his supporters. The strategy among anti-Zionists hoping to avoid charges of antisemitism has been to argue that the issue should be less about Israel and more about our military and political support of Israel: The United States is driving this ethnic cleansing, and Israel, as in the past, is our attack dog—our “cop on the beat”—in the “dangerous neighborhood” of the Middle East. Therefore, the instruction goes, we need to push back when people say that US government policy is controlled by Israel—that it is their lobby, their influence, and their own fascistic political agenda that the US is following in canine fashion.
But the US is following Israel here. We are the dogs—a country leashed to a genocide, without an electoral path to stop the arming of a military that is killing Palestinian children seeking food for sport. The contention that the US is in the driver’s seat with Israel the “cop on the beat” is an old and musty one from the 1990s that has not aged well. It does not correspond with what Israel is perpetrating, nor does it take into account the politics of genocide.
The malignant growth of end-times Christian Zionism—there are more Christian Zionists in the US than the entire Jewish population of the world—has metastasized within the GOP over the past 15 years. What started with accruing votes from megachurch freak shows has become a powerful bloc central to all decision-making in foreign and domestic policy. Christian Zionist anti-intellectualism—which simultaneously seeks dominion in all walks of life while waiting impatiently for the rapture—also needs to be central to our understanding, foremost because Benjamin Netanyahu has largely played its adherents like a fiddle.
We can’t allow an endless argument about what is and isn’t antisemitism when it moves us away from confronting the central issue: the question of how to stop a genocide. A recent poll shows that 82 percent of Israelis support “the transfer (expulsion) of residents of the Gaza Strip to other countries.” In other words, a majority of Israelis support ethnic cleansing. “Genocide is not just a murderous madness,” the author Michael Ignatieff wrote. “It is, more deeply, a politics that promises a utopia beyond politics—one people, one land, one truth, the end of difference. Since genocide is a form of political utopia, it remains an enduring temptation in any multiethnic and multicultural society in crisis.”
This is what we are dealing with: a quasi-religious, sub-imperial madness beyond anything seen since the Nakba. It’s not antisemitic to point out that this is no longer about the needs of the United States, whether for oil or cultivating influence in the Middle East. Trump has already shown in the “Abraham Accords” of his first term that the US can buy friends—or, in the case of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, allow themselves to be bribed and bought off. This is not 1993, with the US seeking friends in the region and a “cop on the beat.” It is about Israel’s desire—and the US’s Christian Zionist Pavlovian response—to eliminate Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank, “from the river to the sea.” It is driven by fascist Israeli politicians and an Israeli public overwhelmingly comfortable with this agenda. It is being supported by this administration because it dovetails with the end-times fascism that drives much of their agenda and inhabits their base. Southern Baptist—not a Jew!—Mike Huckabee being appointed as US ambassador to Israel gives the game away.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/israel-antisemitism-genocide-christian-zionists/
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