The Official 2026 Tour Rumor Thread
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You definitely could tell Pittsburgh N2 that something was up. The vibe was not normal. And even though there are photos with champagne popping, it didn't really have the feel of celebration. In hindsight it is a bummer that they didn't break out all of Matt's songs, but... that would have required work.
What I don't fully understand is if that band wants to take a break, why does Matt need to publicly step away now? Even if he's made it known to the band that he was done after the tour, I don't see why it needs to be announced before the band is ready to replace him. Something isn't quite adding up. Maybe Pearl Jam Inc runs at a loss during dormant times and Matt wasn't interested in that cost? Not sure, just speculating.
I think it will take a huge offer from a festival to get this band back on the road. Maybe something billed as their "only show in 2026" could get them to move, but I'm afraid demand will have to swell a bit before they will be wowed by an offer.
I've been hoping for something different for a few years now, maybe a large theater residency where they work hard for us rehearsing, and perfecting the catalog, but play shorter shows and don't travel... feel like that might have worked for a drummer that has a family and might not be thrilled about long grueling shows...
I understand there has to be reluctance for the band to create a "I've seen it all" situation where we are all relatively satisfied but I'd really enjoy one last push before they just go full "fesitval nostalgia mode".0 -
seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday0 -
Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.0 -
pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.0 -
In Pittsburgh, Ed alluded to the fact that they didnt know when they'd play again. At the time it seemed odd to hear, but of course in hindsight it makes sense.
I'll be curious to see who takes up the kit now that Matt is stepping down, but I would suspect the band will take their time to decide who that should be. There's a fun list of people to think of who it might be - but its got to be the right cocktail for the band.
I'd guess, the earliest we'll see the band play again is late 2026, like maybe Ohana 2026... but more likely 2027. Think about it. They'll need to find the right drummer, THEN the drummer has to learn all that material. And be able to switch songs up night after night. That'll all take time.Randall's Island, NY 9/29/1996, Randall's Island, NY 6/8/1997 (Ed and Mike), Jones Beach, NY 8/23/2000, Los Angeles, CA 7/10/2006, Hartford, CT 6/27/2008, Los Angeles, CA 10/6/2009, San Diego, CA 11/21/2013, Los Angeles, CA 11/24/2013, MSG, NY 5/1/2016, Seattle, WA 8/10/2018, Los Angeles, CA 5/6/2022, Los Angeles, CA 5/7/2022, Camden, NJ 9/14/2022, St Paul 8/31/2023, St Paul 9/2/2023, Las Vegas 5/18/24, MSG NY 9/3/24, Philadelphia PA 9/9/24, Ohana CA 9/27/24, Atlanta, GA 4/29/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/16/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/18/250 -
josevolution said:There’s no chance this band goes out on tour in 26 at this stage of the bands career they don’t need to get right back on the saddle!0
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US shows in 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025. I won't be at all surprised if 2026 is a planned off year even without the Matt news.
Disappointed, yes, but not surprised.___________________________________________
"...I changed by not changing at all..."0 -
Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
Even Barcelona night 2 a third of the arena was black out because tickets didn't sell.
I don't care about ticket prices and I had a blast at my 4 euro shows last year but mistakes were definitely made0 -
Gravey1975 said:pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.0 -
JG242853 said:In Pittsburgh, Ed alluded to the fact that they didnt know when they'd play again. At the time it seemed odd to hear, but of course in hindsight it makes sense.
I'll be curious to see who takes up the kit now that Matt is stepping down, but I would suspect the band will take their time to decide who that should be. There's a fun list of people to think of who it might be - but its got to be the right cocktail for the band.
I'd guess, the earliest we'll see the band play again is late 2026, like maybe Ohana 2026... but more likely 2027. Think about it. They'll need to find the right drummer, THEN the drummer has to learn all that material. And be able to switch songs up night after night. That'll all take time.
There were all sorts of signs that the band knew, especially with the "end of an era" stuff Eddie said and the champagne.
Apparently Danny Clinch really focused HARD on Matt.Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 -
JimmyV said:US shows in 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025. I won't be at all surprised if 2026 is a planned off year even without the Matt news.
Disappointed, yes, but not surprised.
That was the rumor following Pittsburgh that they'd take a year off, like they did in 2019. I really do think the people who were "feeling a one-off show in 2026" were highly optimistic.
Maybe, MAYBE we get leaks in late 2026 and that's if things move fast.Post edited by Lost In Ohio onPresidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 -
Lost In Ohio said:JG242853 said:In Pittsburgh, Ed alluded to the fact that they didnt know when they'd play again. At the time it seemed odd to hear, but of course in hindsight it makes sense.
I'll be curious to see who takes up the kit now that Matt is stepping down, but I would suspect the band will take their time to decide who that should be. There's a fun list of people to think of who it might be - but its got to be the right cocktail for the band.
I'd guess, the earliest we'll see the band play again is late 2026, like maybe Ohana 2026... but more likely 2027. Think about it. They'll need to find the right drummer, THEN the drummer has to learn all that material. And be able to switch songs up night after night. That'll all take time.
There were all sorts of signs that the band knew, especially with the "end of an era" stuff Eddie said and the champagne.
Apparently Danny Clinch really focused HARD on Matt.Randall's Island, NY 9/29/1996, Randall's Island, NY 6/8/1997 (Ed and Mike), Jones Beach, NY 8/23/2000, Los Angeles, CA 7/10/2006, Hartford, CT 6/27/2008, Los Angeles, CA 10/6/2009, San Diego, CA 11/21/2013, Los Angeles, CA 11/24/2013, MSG, NY 5/1/2016, Seattle, WA 8/10/2018, Los Angeles, CA 5/6/2022, Los Angeles, CA 5/7/2022, Camden, NJ 9/14/2022, St Paul 8/31/2023, St Paul 9/2/2023, Las Vegas 5/18/24, MSG NY 9/3/24, Philadelphia PA 9/9/24, Ohana CA 9/27/24, Atlanta, GA 4/29/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/16/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/18/250 -
DP13 said:
What I don't fully understand is if that band wants to take a break, why does Matt need to publicly step away now? Even if he's made it known to the band that he was done after the tour, I don't see why it needs to be announced before the band is ready to replace him. Something isn't quite adding up. Maybe Pearl Jam Inc runs at a loss during dormant times and Matt wasn't interested in that cost? Not sure, just speculating.
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JG242853 said:Lost In Ohio said:JG242853 said:In Pittsburgh, Ed alluded to the fact that they didnt know when they'd play again. At the time it seemed odd to hear, but of course in hindsight it makes sense.
I'll be curious to see who takes up the kit now that Matt is stepping down, but I would suspect the band will take their time to decide who that should be. There's a fun list of people to think of who it might be - but its got to be the right cocktail for the band.
I'd guess, the earliest we'll see the band play again is late 2026, like maybe Ohana 2026... but more likely 2027. Think about it. They'll need to find the right drummer, THEN the drummer has to learn all that material. And be able to switch songs up night after night. That'll all take time.
There were all sorts of signs that the band knew, especially with the "end of an era" stuff Eddie said and the champagne.
Apparently Danny Clinch really focused HARD on Matt.0 -
No new dummer: Festival stops in 2026 with a rotating special guest drummer.
New drummer: focus on sessions in 2026 and see what new music they can shake out. Album in 2027 then tour.DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220 -
If they don’t tour for awhile I’d still like to see them record a new album. I really liked Dark Matter.Seattle 1992, Seattle 1992, Seattle 1993, Seattle 1995, Seattle 1996, Seattle 1998, Seattle 2001, Seattle 2002, Seattle 2005, Gorge 2006, Seattle 2009, Seattle 2013, Chicago 2016 x2, Seattle 2018 x2, San Diego 2022, Nashville 2022, Seattle 2022 - Eddie Vedder0
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pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.
It wasn't just at Pittsburgh, from Raleigh onwards Ed kept talking about it being the end of an era and a long goodbye in a way he's never previously done at the end of album tours.0 -
2027 maybejesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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stones said:pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.
It wasn't just at Pittsburgh, from Raleigh onwards Ed kept talking about it being the end of an era and a long goodbye in a way he's never previously done at the end of album tours.
I'll try to keep the scolds at bay with the No One Owes Us Anything caveat but I'm certainly interested to hear more about what went into the decision.0 -
stones said:pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.
It wasn't just at Pittsburgh, from Raleigh onwards Ed kept talking about it being the end of an era and a long goodbye in a way he's never previously done at the end of album tours.
The EV tour rumours came out of nowhere as well - I guess EV is planning to tour to keep a portion of the band’s crew, 10c etc busy, filling a gap whilst the band spends the next year or two working out their next steps0
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