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pjl44 said:stones said:pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.
It wasn't just at Pittsburgh, from Raleigh onwards Ed kept talking about it being the end of an era and a long goodbye in a way he's never previously done at the end of album tours.
I'll try to keep the scolds at bay with the No One Owes Us Anything caveat but I'm certainly interested to hear more about what went into the decision.
& I forgot about the rumored dates that never panned out; that lends credibility to them knowing about Matt's plans at least in late 2024, if not earlier.
We'll know in the coming months if this was an amicable parting (which I think it was)... if it was, they'll open up and discuss it... if it wasn't they'll go the Dave A route and say very little about it.
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Merkin Baller said:pjl44 said:stones said:pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.
It wasn't just at Pittsburgh, from Raleigh onwards Ed kept talking about it being the end of an era and a long goodbye in a way he's never previously done at the end of album tours.
I'll try to keep the scolds at bay with the No One Owes Us Anything caveat but I'm certainly interested to hear more about what went into the decision.
& I forgot about the rumored dates that never panned out; that lends credibility to them knowing about Matt's plans at least in late 2024, if not earlier.
We'll know in the coming months if this was an amicable parting (which I think it was)... if it was, they'll open up and discuss it... if it wasn't they'll go the Dave A route and say very little about it.0 -
pjl44 said:Merkin Baller said:pjl44 said:stones said:pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.
It wasn't just at Pittsburgh, from Raleigh onwards Ed kept talking about it being the end of an era and a long goodbye in a way he's never previously done at the end of album tours.
I'll try to keep the scolds at bay with the No One Owes Us Anything caveat but I'm certainly interested to hear more about what went into the decision.
& I forgot about the rumored dates that never panned out; that lends credibility to them knowing about Matt's plans at least in late 2024, if not earlier.
We'll know in the coming months if this was an amicable parting (which I think it was)... if it was, they'll open up and discuss it... if it wasn't they'll go the Dave A route and say very little about it.
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pjl44 said:stones said:pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.
It wasn't just at Pittsburgh, from Raleigh onwards Ed kept talking about it being the end of an era and a long goodbye in a way he's never previously done at the end of album tours.
I'll try to keep the scolds at bay with the No One Owes Us Anything caveat but I'm certainly interested to hear more about what went into the decision.Yes the no one owes us contingent (NOOUA) is very strong in this fan base likely due to the fact PJ are usually very secretive about stuff that many of us talk openly about personally . I am a couple years younger than Matt, and I have no issue discussing that I am desperate to retire, been thru some medical stuff that is difficult for anyone not living thru it to understand.But Matt saying zilch about what led to this massive announcement only makes us fear something medically. When I was younger I was very much a part of the Thou Shalt Never Discuss my health in public, but after needing a one in ten million procedure last year, with likely two years of physio to recover, I’m no longer shy about it at all. As I just mentioned generalities to strangers.
Hopefully those of us worrying, it is needless. On the other side was the Rush way of ending. Neil made absolutely no secret he wanted out for years, and Geddy/Al no secret they completely disagreed,which made it a little weird at the end for them. Then Neil got screwed with cancer six months after he retired :(0 -
seanclax said:Gravey1975 said:pdalowsky said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Haijay said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:seanclax said:Benglish said:Haijay said:Well, certainly the upper deck, like any other act. I would love to see them do it, if only to prove all you naysayers wrong.Let me ask you, if they can sell out Waldbuhne, and if they wouldn't have had their heads up their bums with the ridiculous ticket prices, both of those shows would have been sold out. They were actually getting down to about 3000 for one show and 5000 for the second. So, that would be 44,000 tickets. And yes, i know prob about 20- 30% would be going to both shows, but so what.So, if they are a band that can sell that many, what are you saying their ceiling is? A good percentage of a stadium show are casual fans, who remember that one song or something, and are willing to pay 50-60 bucks to go and sit in the upper deck. They would definitely need to lose this one price for the whole venue nonsense, that model CLEARLY doesnt work in Europe
I imagine playing the same shows to the same US cities would get boring after a while. Especially when you can go to Europe and explore 10 different cities over 3 weeks.
Not to mention australia and south America. Sometimes the numbers don't have to add up
It's a harsh reality, I get the idea they tour some of the same markets year in and year out but Chicago, Philly and just about anywhere they play in the US sells out with no issue. Not to mention in 2025 they hit plenty of cities in the US that hadn't been hit in years. I don't think they are touring because they get to spend time in hotels all over the world while on tour and "explore cities" on off days. I'd think they'd much rather explore cities with their families while not worrying about the tour in the background. Just my two cents.
What are you basing that on considering they toured Europe and Australia last year.
Ps it would be nice to get on a plane to see the band and not worry about getting sent back at customs 🤷
PS: To your customs comment, no need to be ignorant. Hop on a plane and come on over, we'd be glad to have you. I've got family who arrived here from Manchester over the weekend, not a single issue, in fact from what I understand they went through US customs in Dublin .
I'm sure they would of sold out 2 nights at the o2.
Having said that Barcelona didn't sell out. I went to both those shows but I don't know what the bands following is like in Spain.It cant be said enough, they sold 130,000 for Hyde Park. Yep, it was a “festival”, and yes, a lot of people just went because, but the vast majority of people were there to see PJ. And they had the fastest sellout ever, thats why they added the second show. And the band were just there in ‘18, and the tickets went on sale in ‘19, and it went how it went.That year the Eagles didn't sellout their show, Duran Duran didn't, the Stones didn’t until a week before. And the Kings of Leon didn’t even come close to selling out theirs the following year. Give them some credit, for once…….
I also said I thought they would sell out 2 nights at the o2, which would be about 45.000 so what's your pointThe whole European “leg” was odd. I dont know when else they could have fit it in, but with Dark Matter being so good, and them feeling so invigorated about it, and playing more shows in a year that they have in years, Europe should have got 15-20 shows. Especially with the news yesterday
The timing of the ticket sales and the announcement didnt help but I too expected the stadium show to sell much better than it did but then it was a strange time all round. Announce that show for next year and Im convinced you would see very different results.0 -
demetrios said:Choska said:If they don’t tour for awhile I’d still like to see them record a new album. I really liked Dark Matter.
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Yes the no one owes us contingent (NOOUA) is very strong in this fan base likely due to the fact PJ are usually very secretive about stuff that many of us talk openly about personally . I am a couple years younger than Matt, and I have no issue discussing that I am desperate to retire, been thru some medical stuff that is difficult for anyone not living thru it to understand.But Matt saying zilch about what led to this massive announcement only makes us fear something medically. When I was younger I was very much a part of the Thou Shalt Never Discuss my health in public, but after needing a one in ten million procedure last year, with likely two years of physio to recover, I’m no longer shy about it at all. As I just mentioned generalities to strangers.
Hopefully those of us worrying, it is needless. On the other side was the Rush way of ending. Neil made absolutely no secret he wanted out for years, and Geddy/Al no secret they completely disagreed,which made it a little weird at the end for them. Then Neil got screwed with cancer six months after he retired :(
I can see them finding a new drummer soon-ish and continue touring end of next year. But I can also see them taking their time and Ed touring all of 2026 by himself.------------------------------
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marumaruko said:Yes the no one owes us contingent (NOOUA) is very strong in this fan base likely due to the fact PJ are usually very secretive about stuff that many of us talk openly about personally . I am a couple years younger than Matt, and I have no issue discussing that I am desperate to retire, been thru some medical stuff that is difficult for anyone not living thru it to understand.But Matt saying zilch about what led to this massive announcement only makes us fear something medically. When I was younger I was very much a part of the Thou Shalt Never Discuss my health in public, but after needing a one in ten million procedure last year, with likely two years of physio to recover, I’m no longer shy about it at all. As I just mentioned generalities to strangers.
Hopefully those of us worrying, it is needless. On the other side was the Rush way of ending. Neil made absolutely no secret he wanted out for years, and Geddy/Al no secret they completely disagreed,which made it a little weird at the end for them. Then Neil got screwed with cancer six months after he retired :(
I can see them finding a new drummer soon-ish and continue touring end of next year. But I can also see them taking their time and Ed touring all of 2026 by himself.
my money is on jeff also being sick0 -
I'm OK if they all take a break, but hoping for Earthlings west coast shows. Seattle!!!
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