Middle East ......

static111 · July 4

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.

And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.

Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..

There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.

or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.

What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?

What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?

Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate

Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?

He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.

The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?

Intolerance of what? Just making shit up again?

Just look at the prior comment at 8.52 DC time. If you don’t understand you can’t possibly be typing honest shyt in this space. Intolerance 100%

Can someone sane help explain this so called intolerance that I am being accused of? I honestly feel like I am trying to follow a string on a corkboard from a Q adherent.

You make many accusations and fail to read explanations, then you complain you don’t understand.

you cried endlessly to others about not understanding my comments about failure of Hamas to negotiate, for which I provided a detailed explanation two days ago to Matt. It’s there for you to read if there were a shred of honesty in your comments.

you continually put me down regarding this topic and did not spend one minute trying to understand what you were asking for.

“  ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.”

The word fits perfectly. Stop running to your safe spaces looking to be cuddled and engage honestly if you are going to address my comments. be an adult.

I don't remember crying endlessly to others so it looks like you are wrong again. Lol.

My memory is that you claimed everyone has a hatred for all citizens of Israel or some such nonsense and I stated that you were making things up to support your fallacies. And if I am not wrong you fabricated more opinions to try to make a point. I stand by that.

I have no problem with some of the facts you presented, but if you can't see that you are literally making up the opinions and beliefs of others to suit your narrative, I don't know what to tell you.

If you think calling out made up opinions is putting you down it seems maybe I am not the one in need of a safe space.

I'm still not sure what my supposed intolerance is.

static111 · July 4

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.

And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.

Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..

There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.

or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.

What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?

What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?

Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate

Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?

He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.

The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?

So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"

That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”

this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.

MR here

Replying directly to the bolded IN YOUR POST, which I’m quoting, you’re making shit up. If one is to assume “H” is Hamas, as you seem to imply, they haven’t been around for 70 fucking years and they’re not “getting Americans ‘to attack Jews.’” A fucking I tells me that Hamas was founded in 1987 but I knew that already.

Now I fully expect you to claim that “H” doesn’t stand for Hamas or that you meant “Hal” but I’m not 70 either, or that you typed too fast or everyone else is just antisemitic. And to complain that you were personally attacked. Like I advised you previously, read a fucking book.

Hezbollah?

Lerxst1992 · July 4

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.

And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.

Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..

There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.

or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.

What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?

What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?

Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate

Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?

He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.

The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?

So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"

That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”

this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.

MR here

Replying directly to the bolded IN YOUR POST, which I’m quoting, you’re making shit up. If one is to assume “H” is Hamas, as you seem to imply, they haven’t been around for 70 fucking years and they’re not “getting Americans ‘to attack Jews.’” A fucking I tells me that Hamas was founded in 1987 but I knew that already.

Now I fully expect you to claim that “H” doesn’t stand for Hamas or that you meant “Hal” but I’m not 70 either, or that you typed too fast or everyone else is just antisemitic. And to complain that you were personally attacked. Like I advised you previously, read a fucking book.

So we can’t interchange PLO with Hamas? That’s some set of rules you’re creating. I get hundreds of rules, untype whatever crap unwant.

” The PLO, upon its founding in 1964, used the phrase as a call for a single Palestinian state to replace Israel and encompass the territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea”

that’s you fighting for genocide. Using your words.

Lerxst1992 · July 4

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.

And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.

Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..

There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.

or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.

What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?

What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?

Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate

Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?

He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.

The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?

Intolerance of what? Just making shit up again?

Just look at the prior comment at 8.52 DC time. If you don’t understand you can’t possibly be typing honest shyt in this space. Intolerance 100%

Can someone sane help explain this so called intolerance that I am being accused of? I honestly feel like I am trying to follow a string on a corkboard from a Q adherent.

You make many accusations and fail to read explanations, then you complain you don’t understand.

you cried endlessly to others about not understanding my comments about failure of Hamas to negotiate, for which I provided a detailed explanation two days ago to Matt. It’s there for you to read if there were a shred of honesty in your comments.

you continually put me down regarding this topic and did not spend one minute trying to understand what you were asking for.

“  ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.”

The word fits perfectly. Stop running to your safe spaces looking to be cuddled and engage honestly if you are going to address my comments. be an adult.

I don't remember crying endlessly to others so it looks like you are wrong again. Lol.

My memory is that you claimed everyone has a hatred for all citizens of Israel or some such nonsense and I stated that you were making things up to support your fallacies. And if I am not wrong you fabricated more opinions to try to make a point. I stand by that.

I have no problem with some of the facts you presented, but if you can't see that you are literally making up the opinions and beliefs of others to suit your narrative, I don't know what to tell you.

If you think calling out made up opinions is putting you down it seems maybe I am not the one in need of a safe space.

I'm still not sure what my supposed intolerance is.

This started with me stating f terrorism. Then MR replied with made up stuff about collateral damage. Then u mocking me with anti American Marxist language, strawman style . I don’t think many here are Marxist, but they are extreme left. ( Do not think the left is anti American, just that they are terrible about politics, and have been significantly dishonest the last few years). Then someone else made something up about annexation, which I replied to. Then ur attacks of making thing up. Then MR misunderstood my comment about negotiation, which I clarified two days ago. Then more similar attacks from you.

Do you seriously believe you are taking time to understand and tolerate my comments? Because I keep re reading and see no evidence of that.

Lerxst1992 · July 4

Lerxst1992 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.

And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.

Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..

There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.

or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.

What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?

What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?

Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate

Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?

He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.

The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?

So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"

That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”

this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.

MR here

3x MR.

Originally posted July 2, and you ignored it, then you subsequently replied to static falsely claiming I didn’t address your question.

(hal please respect who this comment is for, since they asked for it. reply to a different comment if you insist.).

(Edit one word)

static111 · July 4

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Here is the fallacy that I replied to that caused you to accuse me of intolerance. After that I believe you made up something along the lines of no one here believes that Hama's should negotiate. Then subsequent posts again were full of generalized and made up opinions of others. That's like not cool man.

Lerxst1992 · July 4

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Here is the fallacy that I replies to that caused you to accuse me of intolerance. Before that I believe you made up something along the lines of no one here believes that Hama's should negotiate. Then previous posts again were full of generalized and made up opinions of others. That's like not cool man.

It’s a fact that Israel gets cursed out on this forum regularly and a ton of intolerant anger is used towards my comments looking for balance and negotiation to solve a complex geopolitical problem.

“Every person (in Israel)” refers to the phrase “f Israel,” used here often, while many on the left demand the Palestinian people get to be separated from Hamas. that’s clearly a double standard and bias against Israel.

Now that you took THE time to clearly specify your complaint in a way that can be addressed, hopefully this is the end of your attacks on it. And I cleared up the “negotiation” bit on July 2 and reposted it 3 times.

Tim Simmons · July 4

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Here is the fallacy that I replies to that caused you to accuse me of intolerance. Before that I believe you made up something along the lines of no one here believes that Hama's should negotiate. Then previous posts again were full of generalized and made up opinions of others. That's like not cool man.

“Every person (in Israel)” refers to the phrase “f Israel,” used here often,

Is this true, or what you believe to be true?

Its stands to reason if people can reasonably separate the Palestinian people from Hamas, I think people would conclude the same about Israelis and Likud/Bibi.

static111 · July 4

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Here is the fallacy that I replies to that caused you to accuse me of intolerance. Before that I believe you made up something along the lines of no one here believes that Hama's should negotiate. Then previous posts again were full of generalized and made up opinions of others. That's like not cool man.

It’s a fact that Israel gets cursed out on this forum regularly and a ton of intolerant anger is used towards my comments looking for balance and negotiation to solve a complex geopolitical problem.

“Every person (in Israel)” refers to the phrase “f Israel,” used here often, while many on the left demand the Palestinian people get to be separated from Hamas. that’s clearly a double standard and bias against Israel.

Now that you took THE time to clearly specify your complaint in a way that can be addressed, hopefully this is the end of your attacks on it. And I cleared up the “negotiation” bit on July 2 and reposted it 3 times.

F isreal or f Russia or f Canada or f the USA has never implied to me that all the people in a country should be cursed. I usually view that as a criticism of the state and its war and diplomatic policies. So I didn't have the understanding that you believe it to mean a curse upon each and every citizen.

I separate Israelis as people from their government the same as I separate the Palestinian people from the Hamas leadership.

As bad as Oct 7 was I believe that the response and abuse that has befallen the non Hamas Palestinians because of Bibi and the state of Israel is far far worse. And I believe both sides should negotiate.

Lerxst1992 · July 4

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Here is the fallacy that I replies to that caused you to accuse me of intolerance. Before that I believe you made up something along the lines of no one here believes that Hama's should negotiate. Then previous posts again were full of generalized and made up opinions of others. That's like not cool man.

It’s a fact that Israel gets cursed out on this forum regularly and a ton of intolerant anger is used towards my comments looking for balance and negotiation to solve a complex geopolitical problem.

“Every person (in Israel)” refers to the phrase “f Israel,” used here often, while many on the left demand the Palestinian people get to be separated from Hamas. that’s clearly a double standard and bias against Israel.

Now that you took THE time to clearly specify your complaint in a way that can be addressed, hopefully this is the end of your attacks on it. And I cleared up the “negotiation” bit on July 2 and reposted it 3 times.

F isreal or f Russia or f Canada or f the USA has never implied to me that all the people in a country should be cursed. I usually view that as a criticism of the state and its war and diplomatic policies. So I didn't have the understanding that you believe it to mean a curse upon each and every citizen.

I separate Israelis as people from their government the same as I separate the Palestinian people from the Hamas leadership.

As bad as Oct 7 was I believe that the response and abuse that has befallen the non Hamas Palestinians because of Bibi and the state of Israel is far far worse. And I believe both sides should negotiate.

The f business is in context of this forum and a few on Reddit, much of the time here you took a smart time out from. Otherwise, I agree.

Halifax2TheMax · July 4

AI guy is a moderator now? Wow.

Halifax2TheMax · July 4

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.

And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.

Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..

There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.

or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.

What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?

What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?

Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate

Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?

He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.

The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?

So who said Hamas should not negotiate? You didn't answer the question. You said "The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate"

That is not what I intended to imply, the comment was assuming readers understand the long game H has been playing since the sixties trying to breed off and establish more hatred instead of expressing good faith steps to end this, but bad typing, too much backspacing, sorry…“They should share it (disputed land) and instead Hamas gets others to attack israelis here (US soil, DC streets, Internet forums, etc) so Hamas has no reason to negotiate (in good faith).”

this is what the liberal left is now falling for. They’ve (H) tried it for nearly 70 years, and it hasn’t worked in America til now. And it will cost dems many more voters and if there is no leadership to negotiate a treaty, htf does it end? The irony is it might not be Jewish voters in NY,CA, costing Dems those votes as much as in fly over country with their own version of hatred.

MR here

Replying directly to the bolded IN YOUR POST, which I’m quoting, you’re making shit up. If one is to assume “H” is Hamas, as you seem to imply, they haven’t been around for 70 fucking years and they’re not “getting Americans ‘to attack Jews.’” A fucking I tells me that Hamas was founded in 1987 but I knew that already.

Now I fully expect you to claim that “H” doesn’t stand for Hamas or that you meant “Hal” but I’m not 70 either, or that you typed too fast or everyone else is just antisemitic. And to complain that you were personally attacked. Like I advised you previously, read a fucking book.

So we can’t interchange PLO with Hamas? That’s some set of rules you’re creating. I get hundreds of rules, untype whatever crap unwant.

” The PLO, upon its founding in 1964, used the phrase as a call for a single Palestinian state to replace Israel and encompass the territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea”

that’s you fighting for genocide. Using your words.

Again, read a fucking book. Hamas or H, as you refer to the PLO, are not and have not been one and the same.

Post your Israeli misinformation somewhere else. Care to answer why Israel invaded and bombed Syria? How about addressing why Israel has fenced off and Gaza-ized a Palestinian town in the West Bank? Didn’t think so.

Take your victimization to Reddit or facebook, please.

How the fuck does one expect to be understood when using “H” for “PLO”?
alternate reality strikes again.

gimmesometruth27 · July 4

hal, this stuff all started on october 6. get it straight.

Halifax2TheMax · July 4

Now tell us again how Israel is honoring a cease fire and is defending itself and only wants peace. Takes a major lack of a moral compass to be okay with and justifying this. Oh, and we were told H, or is it the PLO, wasn’t negotiating.

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mrussel1 · July 4

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Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people? I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid. All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment. But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.

And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics. This is most amoral of any position you could take.

Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..

There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.

or the palestinians could have just let israel annex all of their land and build illegal settlements on it, but israel would NEVER dream of doing that, now would they.

What other country on earth has zero rights to share land for which evidence exists was theirs eleven thousand years ago?

What about who had the land twelve thousand years ago? What about all of the years between then and 1948? Is 11,000 some sort of magic number?

Bible says 11,000 archaeologist say 4000. The problem is I expressed my opinion that they should share it and others attack that Hamas has no reason to negotiate

Who exactly said Hamas should not negotiate?

He keeps making shit up to prove his fallacious arguments.

The comment was a reply to the hypothetical annexation charade. When does your intolerance end?

Intolerance of what? Just making shit up again?

Just look at the prior comment at 8.52 DC time. If you don’t understand you can’t possibly be typing honest shyt in this space. Intolerance 100%

Can someone sane help explain this so called intolerance that I am being accused of? I honestly feel like I am trying to follow a string on a corkboard from a Q adherent.

You continually make baseless accusations.

why don’t you try to read your own comments fairly before feigning ignorance

It would be better If you actually quoted an example of his intolerance rather than a passive-aggressive reply like the one you just did. You’ve made a habit of saying things, getting called out, then declaring you were misunderstood.

Seriously man, stop stirring this up. I used to think you commented here honestly. This is the second time you pulled this crap.

regarding the Hamas negotiation point, I took the time to provide a detailed explanation two days ago, after you asked for it a few times. Just posted it again above. So you instead decide to ignore that explanation, and go support this commenters complete dishonesty, which is also addressed in detail for you if you seriously care, instead of running to your comrade safe space to support their nonsense.

You did this a few months ago. You asked endlessly for an explanation, mocked me, I provided it, and you never responded. Either engage honestly to my comments or please put me on ignore. I can’t believe the level of lack of candor to support leftist views here.

(About tolerance, They made an accusation I was making shit up and I explaned that was a reply to someone making stuff up about annexation, not me. It’s all in this quote box, but they plays fake victim, and you fall for it. The crap about you ignoring the negotiation explanation was reposted five minutes ago).

You have no idea the size of the plank in your own eye. No one knows what you mean half the time. If I fail to reply it’s because I’m tired of the discussion that is going nowhere. You would be better served to write with more specificity. I read your reply yesterday and I don’t know what you’re trying to say. And I certainly had no idea that it connected to your comment to Static saying he’s intolerant, which is what you seem to be imply in this latest post.

mrussel1 · July 4

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Here is the fallacy that I replies to that caused you to accuse me of intolerance. Before that I believe you made up something along the lines of no one here believes that Hama's should negotiate. Then previous posts again were full of generalized and made up opinions of others. That's like not cool man.

It’s a fact that Israel gets cursed out on this forum regularly and a ton of intolerant anger is used towards my comments looking for balance and negotiation to solve a complex geopolitical problem.

“Every person (in Israel)” refers to the phrase “f Israel,” used here often, while many on the left demand the Palestinian people get to be separated from Hamas. that’s clearly a double standard and bias against Israel.

Now that you took THE time to clearly specify your complaint in a way that can be addressed, hopefully this is the end of your attacks on it. And I cleared up the “negotiation” bit on July 2 and reposted it 3 times.

F isreal or f Russia or f Canada or f the USA has never implied to me that all the people in a country should be cursed. I usually view that as a criticism of the state and its war and diplomatic policies. So I didn't have the understanding that you believe it to mean a curse upon each and every citizen.

I separate Israelis as people from their government the same as I separate the Palestinian people from the Hamas leadership.

As bad as Oct 7 was I believe that the response and abuse that has befallen the non Hamas Palestinians because of Bibi and the state of Israel is far far worse. And I believe both sides should negotiate.

The f business is in context of this forum and a few on Reddit, much of the time here you took a smart time out from. Otherwise, I agree.

So is this it? You argue with people on Reddit then come here and presume the arguments are the same?

And btw, you say I made up the concept of collateral damage in Palestine? Are you saying there has been none or is it your opinion that every man, woman and child in Palestine is a terrorist and cannot be collateral damage?

mickeyrat · July 4

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Fuck terrorism.

You forgot "fuck collateral damage". Because that's what this is.

When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

Here is the fallacy that I replies to that caused you to accuse me of intolerance. Before that I believe you made up something along the lines of no one here believes that Hama's should negotiate. Then previous posts again were full of generalized and made up opinions of others. That's like not cool man.

It’s a fact that Israel gets cursed out on this forum regularly and a ton of intolerant anger is used towards my comments looking for balance and negotiation to solve a complex geopolitical problem.

“Every person (in Israel)” refers to the phrase “f Israel,” used here often, while many on the left demand the Palestinian people get to be separated from Hamas. that’s clearly a double standard and bias against Israel.

Now that you took THE time to clearly specify your complaint in a way that can be addressed, hopefully this is the end of your attacks on it. And I cleared up the “negotiation” bit on July 2 and reposted it 3 times.

F isreal or f Russia or f Canada or f the USA has never implied to me that all the people in a country should be cursed. I usually view that as a criticism of the state and its war and diplomatic policies. So I didn't have the understanding that you believe it to mean a curse upon each and every citizen.

I separate Israelis as people from their government the same as I separate the Palestinian people from the Hamas leadership.

As bad as Oct 7 was I believe that the response and abuse that has befallen the non Hamas Palestinians because of Bibi and the state of Israel is far far worse. And I believe both sides should negotiate.

The f business is in context of this forum and a few on Reddit, much of the time here you took a smart time out from. Otherwise, I agree.

So is this it? You argue with people on Reddit then come here and presume the arguments are the same?

And btw, you say I made up the concept of collateral damage in Palestine? Are you saying there has been none or is it your opinion that every man, woman and child in Palestine is a terrorist and cannot be collateral damage?

have never gotten a direct anser to this very simple imo yes/no question.

Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

yes or no.

previous statements leave a strong impression.

mickeyrat · July 5

why the delay bibi...

Hamas says it responds to Gaza ceasefire proposal in 'a positive spirit' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-military-kills-15-gaza-trump-waits-hamas-response-ceasefire-proposal-2025-07-04/

Lerxst1992 · July 5

gimmesometruth27 said:

hal, this stuff all started on october 6. get it straight.

You completely misunderstood his diatribe. Grow up or mind your own business.

Lerxst1992 · July 5

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