Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'm pretty sure my 2nd row seats at the San Jose Civic Auditorium cost me a walloping $3.50
I should try to find my ticket stub from April, 1980 in Vancouver. It would be nice if some of the legacy bands could take those 1960’s and 1970’s prices and apply only the rate of inflation to come up with a 2025 price.I would bet it’s well under $100.
Fantastic show in 1980 though unfortunately Keith Moon had passed away not long before. I believe it was a Monday in Vancouver so after working all day Wednesday we headed for Key Arena to catch the Seattle show.
They can’t sell luxury tickets or suites. Heck, around here, they should sell the best tickets for $185. Doesn’t this seem absurd? And, you literally had to be in the club 35 years ago to get the best deal here.
Every sports team that we love either does this for every game on the schedule, and you need to buy the season, or wishes they are in a market that could do it. But a musician? Double standard. And yes, The Who prices are too rich for me as well.
I'm all for artists setting prices for how they see fit. I don't know all the ins and outs of the costs of touring these days.
The market will determine whether or not the prices are worth it. Not comparing The Black Keys to The Who historically or musically, but they set up a tour of arenas and set their prices. They found out the market isn't there for them at arenas and at those prices, so the scrapped the whole thing, reevaluated and announced a different tour.
I'm all for artists getting the profits of ticket sales and not scalpers, if artists set the price too low.
1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
They can’t sell luxury tickets or suites. Heck, around here, they should sell the best tickets for $185. Doesn’t this seem absurd? And, you literally had to be in the club 35 years ago to get the best deal here.
Every sports team that we love either does this for every game on the schedule, and you need to buy the season, or wishes they are in a market that could do it. But a musician? Double standard. And yes, The Who prices are too rich for me as well.
No double standard for me. I quit attending basically all local sporting events here because I find the experience no longer justifies the price. These Who prices are absurd and deserve a laugh. Other artists I’d put in their category/level (Stones, AC/DC, Paul Simon, Springsteen etc) sold the same seats for less than 1/2 the price very recently.
I'm pretty sure my 2nd row seats at the San Jose Civic Auditorium cost me a walloping $3.50
I should try to find my ticket stub from April, 1980 in Vancouver. It would be nice if some of the legacy bands could take those 1960’s and 1970’s prices and apply only the rate of inflation to come up with a 2025 price.I would bet it’s well under $100.
Fantastic show in 1980 though unfortunately Keith Moon had passed away not long before. I believe it was a Monday in Vancouver so after working all day Wednesday we headed for Key Arena to catch the Seattle show.
Here are a few of the earlier shows I saw. $22.50 in 1989, $34.00 in 2000. Last few shows I saw were over $200.
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I'm pretty sure my 2nd row seats at the San Jose Civic Auditorium cost me a walloping $3.50
I should try to find my ticket stub from April, 1980 in Vancouver. It would be nice if some of the legacy bands could take those 1960’s and 1970’s prices and apply only the rate of inflation to come up with a 2025 price.I would bet it’s well under $100.
Fantastic show in 1980 though unfortunately Keith Moon had passed away not long before. I believe it was a Monday in Vancouver so after working all day Wednesday we headed for Key Arena to catch the Seattle show.
That would be a treasure!
I wish I had started saving my ticket stubs earlier. I didn't think to do that until the early 80s.
I love your idea of legacy bands using inflation rates to apply to 2025 prices. Yeah, almost all shows would be much more affordable. I don't understand the rationale for today's prices.
I'm pretty sure my 2nd row seats at the San Jose Civic Auditorium cost me a walloping $3.50
I should try to find my ticket stub from April, 1980 in Vancouver. It would be nice if some of the legacy bands could take those 1960’s and 1970’s prices and apply only the rate of inflation to come up with a 2025 price.I would bet it’s well under $100.
Fantastic show in 1980 though unfortunately Keith Moon had passed away not long before. I believe it was a Monday in Vancouver so after working all day Wednesday we headed for Key Arena to catch the Seattle show.
That would be a treasure!
I wish I had started saving my ticket stubs earlier. I didn't think to do that until the early 80s.
I love your idea of legacy bands using inflation rates to apply to 2025 prices. Yeah, almost all shows would be much more affordable. I don't understand the rationale for today's prices.
seems like ticket prices have become a function of market value.
October 2022 my seat was $248. Not floor, but fairly close Pete's side.
*actually quite close (looked it up) 3rd row section closest to the stage. (No GA) So, other than the 1st few rows floor, one of the best seats in the house. Feels like a Bargain 🎶, now. At today's prices, probably the best (Who tix) I'll ever have.
adjusting for inflation, that should be no more than $93.92 today. There is no excuse for these ridiculous prices. But companies and artists figured out that experiences can be marketed as once-in-a-lifetime and thus, deserve to be catastrophically more expensive to better adjust to their "worth". it will only change if everyone stops going. It will never, ever happen.
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I think its also just an observation of what many are willing to pay on the secondary market. Even if a band does not want to take advantage of loyal fans, if they keep prices reasonable and undervalue their services, scalpers get the extra $ that should rightfully go to the band. So its a balancing act to try and retain some of that $ up front, without pricing a large # of fans out of the market.
I get it, but I still don't like it, and it definitely restricts some of the shows I can go to.
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adjusting for inflation, that should be no more than $93.92 today. There is no excuse for these ridiculous prices. But companies and artists figured out that experiences can be marketed as once-in-a-lifetime and thus, deserve to be catastrophically more expensive to better adjust to their "worth". it will only change if everyone stops going. It will never, ever happen.
The Dream Syndicate (formed in 1981), Harlow's, Sacramento, Calif., 7/29/22, $25
Me too. Kind of a “might regret it if I don’t” thing. Went with my dad.
Never really understood the appeal.
Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall after a very restful summer exploring the Great Canadian Wilderness and beaches, listening to Pearl Jam, Headstones, Watchmen, Queens of the Stone Age, and many others.
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adjusting for inflation, that should be no more than $93.92 today. There is no excuse for these ridiculous prices. But companies and artists figured out that experiences can be marketed as once-in-a-lifetime and thus, deserve to be catastrophically more expensive to better adjust to their "worth". it will only change if everyone stops going. It will never, ever happen.
Adjust also for percentage of revenue streams for an artist.
Like my successful Swedish artist friend said; "back in the 80s/90s the tours were there to drive the CD/LP/Cassette-sales - we didn't make any money touring."
But like you said, obviously it's an eventification part of it all also. The same with movies in a way.
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Me too. Kind of a “might regret it if I don’t” thing. Went with my dad.
Never really understood the appeal.
Hate to say it but to have really appreciated The Who I think you would have had to have seen them between 1967 and maybe 1976.
They were my favorite band for a long time. I saw them in 2000 when they still had John and it was incredible! Would have loved to seem them between 67-76, but had that issue of not being alive yet.
"For when the music hits, I feel no pain at all"
Denver (2022) Fort Worth 2 (2023) Las Vegas 2 (2024) Atlanta 1 (2025) Atlanta 2 (2025)
Me too. Kind of a “might regret it if I don’t” thing. Went with my dad.
Never really understood the appeal.
Hate to say it but to have really appreciated The Who I think you would have had to have seen them between 1967 and maybe 1976.
They were my favorite band for a long time. I saw them in 2000 when they still had John and it was incredible! Would have loved to seem them between 67-76, but had that issue of not being alive yet.
A minor detail as it were, lol.
But seriously, I totally get why anyone not born yet in the late sixties would want to see an iconic band like The Who. If I were younger and could, I would.
Honestly, I felt they should've stopped touring as The Who after John died. I love Pete and Roger, but it hasn't sounded like The Who in quite awhile (over 20 years). Touring as Daltrey Townshend acoustic would have been amazing, and jived better with their current physical limitations. I think they picked the brand over the art.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'm pretty sure my 2nd row seats at the San Jose Civic Auditorium cost me a walloping $3.50
Every sports team that we love either does this for every game on the schedule, and you need to buy the season, or wishes they are in a market that could do it. But a musician? Double standard. And yes, The Who prices are too rich for me as well.
The market will determine whether or not the prices are worth it. Not comparing The Black Keys to The Who historically or musically, but they set up a tour of arenas and set their prices. They found out the market isn't there for them at arenas and at those prices, so the scrapped the whole thing, reevaluated and announced a different tour.
I'm all for artists getting the profits of ticket sales and not scalpers, if artists set the price too low.
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Not floor, but fairly close Pete's side.
*actually quite close (looked it up) 3rd row section closest to the stage. (No GA)
So, other than the 1st few rows floor, one of the best seats in the house. Feels like a Bargain 🎶, now.
At today's prices, probably the best (Who tix) I'll ever have.
adjusting for inflation, that should be no more than $93.92 today. There is no excuse for these ridiculous prices. But companies and artists figured out that experiences can be marketed as once-in-a-lifetime and thus, deserve to be catastrophically more expensive to better adjust to their "worth". it will only change if everyone stops going. It will never, ever happen.
In my absence, please refer to the following for any reasoned debate on any given matter (please note this list is not exhaustive):
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Even if a band does not want to take advantage of loyal fans, if they keep prices reasonable and undervalue their services, scalpers get the extra $ that should rightfully go to the band. So its a balancing act to try and retain some of that $ up front, without pricing a large # of fans out of the market.
I get it, but I still don't like it, and it definitely restricts some of the shows I can go to.
The Dream Syndicate (formed in 1981), Harlow's, Sacramento, Calif., 7/29/22, $25
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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Hate to say it but to have really appreciated The Who I think you would have had to have seen them between 1967 and maybe 1976.
A lot of older-than-middle age women with wine glasses a-bit-too-drunk down on the floor. Mixed with not that interesting songs to begin with.
I'm good.
(Who's next is great though)
Like my successful Swedish artist friend said; "back in the 80s/90s the tours were there to drive the CD/LP/Cassette-sales - we didn't make any money touring."
But like you said, obviously it's an eventification part of it all also. The same with movies in a way.
Denver (2022)
Fort Worth 2 (2023)
Las Vegas 2 (2024)
Atlanta 1 (2025)
Atlanta 2 (2025)
https://x.com/TheWho/status/1933778723267817488?t=yeTi0H7pzLd4V8bZ9ujd3A&s=19
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth