Capitalism, The Fed and Economic Policy
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Lower interest rates will cause the sell off. Maybe they see that happening.Jearlpam0925 said:T bonds have been downgraded 3 times in less than 15 years, twice in the last two. I'd call that a lot.0 -
There’s lots of curious financial moves happening. Just because we clawed back doesn’t make me feel better. I think q3 data will be tough. I missed the window to sell two months ago but still seriously thinking of liquidating and paying taxes on it. Sit out a a year.0
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Interest rates rise with downgradestempo_n_groove said:
Lower interest rates will cause the sell off. Maybe they see that happening.Jearlpam0925 said:T bonds have been downgraded 3 times in less than 15 years, twice in the last two. I'd call that a lot.0 -
Theyve been talking about lowering interest rates. They aren't raising them any time soon.Jearlpam0925 said:
Interest rates rise with downgradestempo_n_groove said:
Lower interest rates will cause the sell off. Maybe they see that happening.Jearlpam0925 said:T bonds have been downgraded 3 times in less than 15 years, twice in the last two. I'd call that a lot.0 -
Who lol who is talking?tempo_n_groove said:
Theyve been talking about lowering interest rates. They aren't raising them any time soon.Jearlpam0925 said:
Interest rates rise with downgradestempo_n_groove said:
Lower interest rates will cause the sell off. Maybe they see that happening.Jearlpam0925 said:T bonds have been downgraded 3 times in less than 15 years, twice in the last two. I'd call that a lot.
What's on the horizon is stagflation lol
You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up quicker.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:
Theyve been talking about lowering interest rates. They aren't raising them any time soon.Jearlpam0925 said:
Interest rates rise with downgradestempo_n_groove said:
Lower interest rates will cause the sell off. Maybe they see that happening.Jearlpam0925 said:T bonds have been downgraded 3 times in less than 15 years, twice in the last two. I'd call that a lot.
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China is subsidizing the tariffs for most exporters. Most people do not understand that non market, communist economy and what is really happening.0
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I think most people know China is neither communist or free market.Get_Right said:China is subsidizing the tariffs for most exporters. Most people do not understand that non market, communist economy and what is really happening.
Maybe you have not seen the military line up in a Chinese town square. Very much communist. Unless you have only been to Beijing or Shanghai. They hide behind mirrors in those cities. It is very much a military state.0 -
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That's what job creators deserve hal. DuhHalifax2TheMax said:Nice, eh?The 10 richest Americans got $365 billion richer in the past year. Now they’re on the verge of a huge tax cut
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Communism is when the means of production are controlled by the state. Nazi Germany was a military state and diametrically opposed to communism. China allows private companies, although not free.Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
I think most people know China is neither communist or free market.Get_Right said:China is subsidizing the tariffs for most exporters. Most people do not understand that non market, communist economy and what is really happening.
Maybe you have not seen the military line up in a Chinese town square. Very much communist. Unless you have only been to Beijing or Shanghai. They hide behind mirrors in those cities. It is very much a military state.0 -
mrussel1 said:
Communism is when the means of production are controlled by the state. Nazi Germany was a military state and diametrically opposed to communism. China allows private companies, although not free.Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
I think most people know China is neither communist or free market.Get_Right said:China is subsidizing the tariffs for most exporters. Most people do not understand that non market, communist economy and what is really happening.
Maybe you have not seen the military line up in a Chinese town square. Very much communist. Unless you have only been to Beijing or Shanghai. They hide behind mirrors in those cities. It is very much a military state.
Right. Ever seen an employee dorm in China? Shiny steel gates outside a factory? Make no mistake, China does control production, except for maybe smaller operations. And they subsidize it. And they have forced labor. They may have allowed western influence, but when you get to the cotton mills, factories, and the mines, there is no question about who is calling the shots. I speak from years of experience with boots on the ground. Even when you stay in a five star hotel, they are watching your every move. I have gotten calls in my room asking me if anyone stopped by. From the second you clear immigration they are monitoring you. It is the only place in the world I have visited where heavily armed soldiers stood outside my hotel. That includes Mexico City and South America. It is 100% percent a controlled state.0 -
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We had armed guards in Jordan, that was a different scenario though. They like blowing shit up over there.Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
Communism is when the means of production are controlled by the state. Nazi Germany was a military state and diametrically opposed to communism. China allows private companies, although not free.Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
I think most people know China is neither communist or free market.Get_Right said:China is subsidizing the tariffs for most exporters. Most people do not understand that non market, communist economy and what is really happening.
Maybe you have not seen the military line up in a Chinese town square. Very much communist. Unless you have only been to Beijing or Shanghai. They hide behind mirrors in those cities. It is very much a military state.
Right. Ever seen an employee dorm in China? Shiny steel gates outside a factory? Make no mistake, China does control production, except for maybe smaller operations. And they subsidize it. And they have forced labor. They may have allowed western influence, but when you get to the cotton mills, factories, and the mines, there is no question about who is calling the shots. I speak from years of experience with boots on the ground. Even when you stay in a five star hotel, they are watching your every move. I have gotten calls in my room asking me if anyone stopped by. From the second you clear immigration they are monitoring you. It is the only place in the world I have visited where heavily armed soldiers stood outside my hotel. That includes Mexico City and South America. It is 100% percent a controlled state.0 -
Da fed was talkin...Jearlpam0925 said:
Who lol who is talking?tempo_n_groove said:
Theyve been talking about lowering interest rates. They aren't raising them any time soon.Jearlpam0925 said:
Interest rates rise with downgradestempo_n_groove said:
Lower interest rates will cause the sell off. Maybe they see that happening.Jearlpam0925 said:T bonds have been downgraded 3 times in less than 15 years, twice in the last two. I'd call that a lot.
What's on the horizon is stagflation lol
You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up quicker.
As of me writing it that was the case, now, not so much.
Fed says now that no lowering the interest rates through June and July. Bond investors want more yield so they aren't buying and now Wall Street took notice.
This is all stemming from the new "tax bill".0 -
Great article.mickeyrat said:Bond selloff rolls on as US House passes Trump's 'big beautiful' tax bill - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/global-markets-wrapup-1-2025-05-22/0 -
tempo_n_groove said:
We had armed guards in Jordan, that was a different scenario though. They like blowing shit up over there.Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
Communism is when the means of production are controlled by the state. Nazi Germany was a military state and diametrically opposed to communism. China allows private companies, although not free.Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
I think most people know China is neither communist or free market.Get_Right said:China is subsidizing the tariffs for most exporters. Most people do not understand that non market, communist economy and what is really happening.
Maybe you have not seen the military line up in a Chinese town square. Very much communist. Unless you have only been to Beijing or Shanghai. They hide behind mirrors in those cities. It is very much a military state.
Right. Ever seen an employee dorm in China? Shiny steel gates outside a factory? Make no mistake, China does control production, except for maybe smaller operations. And they subsidize it. And they have forced labor. They may have allowed western influence, but when you get to the cotton mills, factories, and the mines, there is no question about who is calling the shots. I speak from years of experience with boots on the ground. Even when you stay in a five star hotel, they are watching your every move. I have gotten calls in my room asking me if anyone stopped by. From the second you clear immigration they are monitoring you. It is the only place in the world I have visited where heavily armed soldiers stood outside my hotel. That includes Mexico City and South America. It is 100% percent a controlled state.
Because they might have a little bit of money in the middle east. The average Chinese criminal has a bad gun and a 20 year old Daihatsu. Blacked out with no license plates and looking to find to money to serve a new years dinner to the family. Or a farmer that lays down on the road in front of "police" because no one will buy his ducks. Sounds silly, but that is my experience in China.0 -
I have heard stories like that from there! Another one from the Middle East. A guy was fired from a job in Iraq. He took it very seriously and brought back an AK and shot it in the air wanting his job back. They gave it to him... Huh? Really?Get_Right said:tempo_n_groove said:
We had armed guards in Jordan, that was a different scenario though. They like blowing shit up over there.Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
Communism is when the means of production are controlled by the state. Nazi Germany was a military state and diametrically opposed to communism. China allows private companies, although not free.Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
I think most people know China is neither communist or free market.Get_Right said:China is subsidizing the tariffs for most exporters. Most people do not understand that non market, communist economy and what is really happening.
Maybe you have not seen the military line up in a Chinese town square. Very much communist. Unless you have only been to Beijing or Shanghai. They hide behind mirrors in those cities. It is very much a military state.
Right. Ever seen an employee dorm in China? Shiny steel gates outside a factory? Make no mistake, China does control production, except for maybe smaller operations. And they subsidize it. And they have forced labor. They may have allowed western influence, but when you get to the cotton mills, factories, and the mines, there is no question about who is calling the shots. I speak from years of experience with boots on the ground. Even when you stay in a five star hotel, they are watching your every move. I have gotten calls in my room asking me if anyone stopped by. From the second you clear immigration they are monitoring you. It is the only place in the world I have visited where heavily armed soldiers stood outside my hotel. That includes Mexico City and South America. It is 100% percent a controlled state.
Because they might have a little bit of money in the middle east. The average Chinese criminal has a bad gun and a 20 year old Daihatsu. Blacked out with no license plates and looking to find to money to serve a new years dinner to the family. Or a farmer that lays down on the road in front of "police" because no one will buy his ducks. Sounds silly, but that is my experience in China.0
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