I honestly don't want to be a smartass, but on the European mainland we had a Dark Matter Spanish tour. Consisting of two concerts in Barcelona. If you add the two festivals, that makes a Dark Matter Iberian Peninsula tour at most.
My instinct is that there’s no more shows or just a few in South America. The merch for these Spring shows is all labelled as “Dark Matter 2025 Tour”. If more shows I would have guessed it would be labelled Spring Tour or US Tour.
My instinct is they are taking a full year off after May and will be back next for Europe in June/July next year.
This. If there were more shows planned and they were just in the "maybe possibly if things work out" stage, I'm sure the merch would be as you said.
I think Ohana is the last holdout...but that might just be EV solo (with or without the Earthlings).
If things were looking hopeful, they'd probably at least say "US 2025" or "Spring 2025".
I've had the "2018/2019" feeling for a while now...enjoy these shows. These could be it for a while. OTOH, when they re-emerge after Pittsburgh (could be a while), the possibility for new music is definitely higher than 1%, given we know they recorded in Australia.
ON THE OTHER HAND... I'd be surprised as all hell if they took the entirety of 2026 off.
What was: 2013 - Lightning Bolt and tour through 2016. 2017 - Relatively quiet year 2018 - South America, announced album and Home/Away Tour 2019 - Break year 2020 - Gigaton released and COVID craziness. 2021 - Beach Shows 2022 - Tour 2023 - Small tour 2024 - Dark Matter
What could have been: 2013 - Album 2018 - Album and tour 2019 - Tour 2020 - Tour? Album? 2021 - Album? 2022 -
2018-2022 really screwed the band's cycle up. The good news? We're past that now.
They sat on DM for over a year. I don’t expect new music until 27 or 28 no matter when it’s finished. They seem to be trying to stretch things out.
Imagine having something so good and just not releasing it. Crazy yo!
I'm sure it's frustrating for them to know that after all the work that goes into making a new album and releasing it, a good chunk of their audience will not give it the time of day no matter how good it is. You'd have to think that dynamic limits their output to a degree.
I honestly don't want to be a smartass, but on the European mainland we had a Dark Matter Spanish tour. Consisting of two concerts in Barcelona. If you add the two festivals, that makes a Dark Matter Iberian Peninsula tour at most.
This was why I was asking.
The Euro dates of 2024 were minimal.
Sure, technically, they were dates during the Dark Matter tour but an Iberian peninsula tour, 2 nights in Berlin, 1 Dublin, and 1 London really isn’t a full European tour.
If a full, proper Europe tour isn’t coming until 2026 then at least that gives me time to start saving $$$. Seeing Pearl Jam in Italy is on my bucket list…can’t think of a place I’d rather see the band these days than Italy. Maybe Hawaii again, but two or three nights in Italy and I could die happy!
Sure, technically, they were dates during the Dark Matter tour but an Iberian peninsula tour, 2 nights in Berlin, 1 Dublin, and 1 London 1 night in Manchester really isn’t a full European tour.
On the one hand, it's a shame that they won't be back in Europe until 2026 at the earliest, but it does increase the chance that they'll get away from the fixed, predictable Dark Matter blocks in their setlist. If they also sell their visuals by then, that would be a dream come true. Once again Pearl Jam in its purest and most unpredictable form. I'd even pay their outrageously expensive ticket prices in Europe again for that. Oh, I'd even round it up to 200 euros. Let's see how close I can get to my dream again.
I sincerely hope we do not miss the dark matter blocks in the setlist. I would love another chance to see more of the record - its a fantastic piece of work and sounded amazing the few times I heard them last year. I'd much rather hear dark matter tracks than Elderly Woman again
But in all honesty I just want to see the band in their current fine form with my kids in tow. I can't wait.
Have we heard anything about a possible Dark Matter Europe tour? Is South America first? So maybe Europe in the Fall?
Anything? Anyone?
We already had a DM EU Tour
Whilst you are technically correct, PJ are huge in Europe, and played a small handful of shows to promote their best record in many years. We need a full tour over this way
On the one hand, it's a shame that they won't be back in Europe until 2026 at the earliest, but it does increase the chance that they'll get away from the fixed, predictable Dark Matter blocks in their setlist. If they also sell their visuals by then, that would be a dream come true. Once again Pearl Jam in its purest and most unpredictable form. I'd even pay their outrageously expensive ticket prices in Europe again for that. Oh, I'd even round it up to 200 euros. Let's see how close I can get to my dream again.
I sincerely hope we do not miss the dark matter blocks in the setlist. I would love another chance to see more of the record - its a fantastic piece of work and sounded amazing the few times I heard them last year. I'd much rather hear dark matter tracks than Elderly Woman again
But in all honesty I just want to see the band in their current fine form with my kids in tow. I can't wait.
Yeah I think there's a lot more mileage in DM yet. Would be a shame if audiences from UK etc missed out on DM-heavy sets.
I honestly don't want to be a smartass, but on the European mainland we had a Dark Matter Spanish tour. Consisting of two concerts in Barcelona. If you add the two festivals, that makes a Dark Matter Iberian Peninsula tour at most.
It was. Although they were supposed to play London and Berlin. They did play Manchester. The second Barcelona show was the fav of my 53 I’ve been to!
Would be nice to get more shows this year. But we will probably not hear anything now until October/November time when hopefully some Euro rumours start.
Cain's Ballroom - Tulsa, OK Walmart AMP - Rogers, AR x 2 Austin City Limits Festival (ACL) - Austin, TX T-Mobile Arena - Kansas City x 2 Rocket Arena - Cleveland, OH x 2 The Pit - Albuquerque, NM x 2 Delta Center - Salt Lake City x 2
1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Cain's Ballroom - Tulsa, OK Walmart AMP - Rogers, AR x 2 Austin City Limits Festival (ACL) - Austin, TX T-Mobile Arena - Kansas City x 2 Rocket Arena - Cleveland, OH x 2 The Pit - Albuquerque, NM x 2 Delta Center - Salt Lake City x 2
This is too much for the current format. It's also a bit all over the place. They might do a southwest tour, for instance, incorporating ACL, maybe Fort Worth, Tulsa, Pheonix. I don't think they are likely to come to AR - it's a small market. Same goes for NM. Not if they double up on Fort Worth and do ACL. They aren't likely to do Cleveland in the same year as double Pitts.
Cain's Ballroom - Tulsa, OK Walmart AMP - Rogers, AR x 2 Austin City Limits Festival (ACL) - Austin, TX T-Mobile Arena - Kansas City x 2 Rocket Arena - Cleveland, OH x 2 The Pit - Albuquerque, NM x 2 Delta Center - Salt Lake City x 2
This is too much for the current format. It's also a bit all over the place. They might do a southwest tour, for instance, incorporating ACL, maybe Fort Worth, Tulsa, Pheonix. I don't think they are likely to come to AR - it's a small market. Same goes for NM. Not if they double up on Fort Worth and do ACL. They aren't likely to do Cleveland in the same year as double Pitts.
They will not play the pit( no bands do)in NM. Isleta would be the place, but sadly they will never play NM again.
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U got to be shitting me...another US tour in the fall?
Europe got a super small EU tour because of cancelled shows, no south america but the US gets ANOTHER tour??
I mean they are a US based band.
Thats just a stupid statement. Im sorry.
Haven’t they been to Europe twice in 3 years?
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*wish, not a rumor
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Fixed that
But in all honesty I just want to see the band in their current fine form with my kids in tow. I can't wait.
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
The ACL lineup apparently drops on 5/6
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Walmart AMP - Rogers, AR x 2
Austin City Limits Festival (ACL) - Austin, TX
T-Mobile Arena - Kansas City x 2
Rocket Arena - Cleveland, OH x 2
The Pit - Albuquerque, NM x 2
Delta Center - Salt Lake City x 2
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
They might do a southwest tour, for instance, incorporating ACL, maybe Fort Worth, Tulsa, Pheonix.
I don't think they are likely to come to AR - it's a small market. Same goes for NM. Not if they double up on Fort Worth and do ACL.
They aren't likely to do Cleveland in the same year as double Pitts.
All good points.
I agree with no CLE due to PIT.
Fort Worth was 2023 and probably would violate any radius clause for ACL
It's all based on ACL, so I looked at 2014 dates and tried to make something work. 😉
Maybe Ed solo at Ohana (🤞) starts off the West portion?
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Isleta would be the place, but sadly they will never play NM again.
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1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Europe got a super small EU tour because of cancelled shows, no south america but the US gets ANOTHER tour??
Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024