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After offering up a “zero-for-zero tariff” to avoid a trade war (which Trump refused), the European Commission has greenlit tariffs of up to 25% on:
Cigarettes from Florida, beef from Kansas and Nebraska, chicken from Louisiana, car parts from Michigan, and most importantly, soybeans. https://trib.al/shcveJM
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After offering up a “zero-for-zero tariff” to avoid a trade war (which Trump refused), the European Commission has greenlit tariffs of up to 25% on:
Cigarettes from Florida, beef from Kansas and Nebraska, chicken from Louisiana, car parts from Michigan, and most importantly, soybeans. https://trib.al/shcveJM
Republicans are NOT getting the deficit under control. Instead, their efforts to extend Donald Trump’s 2017 tax plan are expected to tack on an extra $5.5 trillion in debt, plus $1.3 trillion in interest.
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Always remember, if you throw a dead cat off a tall enough building it’ll bounce when it hits the ground…
The Dow is still down close to 5k points from its highs a couple weeks ago. 125% tariffs still in place on China, 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico on goods not covered by USMCA and 10% tariff on all other countries.for 90 days.
Did anything really change that much, not really. Beware the dead cat bounce…
Yeah, Joe blow buying back in is gonna get fucked, again.
The only people making any money off this are the people already rich. The people in the know (fraud).
What a dumpster fire.
Tariffs are an absolute dumpster fire but when he targets big pharma, he is onto something. I get it’s a slippery slope targeting medicine.
but non Americans pay cents on the dollar when it comes to American made pharmaceuticals. He better have 0% tariffs on the other countries that produce medicine to a large extent, Switzerland, South Korea, etc.
and we see how much liberals on the far left care about people who aren’t in their tiny little clubs. Scream yell fight protest only people in their little tiny clubs get rights so why should we subsidize the worlds medical supply with 0% tariffs?
Always remember, if you throw a dead cat off a tall enough building it’ll bounce when it hits the ground…
The Dow is still down close to 5k points from its highs a couple weeks ago. 125% tariffs still in place on China, 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico on goods not covered by USMCA and 10% tariff on all other countries.for 90 days.
Did anything really change that much, not really. Beware the dead cat bounce…
Yeah, Joe blow buying back in is gonna get fucked, again.
The only people making any money off this are the people already rich. The people in the know (fraud).
What a dumpster fire.
Tariffs are an absolute dumpster fire but when he targets big pharma, he is onto something. I get it’s a slippery slope targeting medicine.
but non Americans pay cents on the dollar when it comes to American made pharmaceuticals. He better have 0% tariffs on the other countries that produce medicine to a large extent, Switzerland, South Korea, etc.
and we see how much liberals on the far left care about people who aren’t in their tiny little clubs. Scream yell fight protest only people in their little tiny clubs get rights so why should we subsidize the worlds medical supply with 0% tariffs?
In what way are you subsidizing the words medical supply?
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The whole tariffs nonsense is like everything T does: chaos to keep us guessing, confused, and anxious. I call bullshit!
Always remember, if you throw a dead cat off a tall enough building it’ll bounce when it hits the ground…
The Dow is still down close to 5k points from its highs a couple weeks ago. 125% tariffs still in place on China, 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico on goods not covered by USMCA and 10% tariff on all other countries.for 90 days.
Did anything really change that much, not really. Beware the dead cat bounce…
Yeah, Joe blow buying back in is gonna get fucked, again.
The only people making any money off this are the people already rich. The people in the know (fraud).
What a dumpster fire.
Tariffs are an absolute dumpster fire but when he targets big pharma, he is onto something. I get it’s a slippery slope targeting medicine.
but non Americans pay cents on the dollar when it comes to American made pharmaceuticals. He better have 0% tariffs on the other countries that produce medicine to a large extent, Switzerland, South Korea, etc.
and we see how much liberals on the far left care about people who aren’t in their tiny little clubs. Scream yell fight protest only people in their little tiny clubs get rights so why should we subsidize the worlds medical supply with 0% tariffs?
In what way are you subsidizing the words medical supply?
Universities and teaching hospitals receive federal funding, much of which goes into R&D for pharmaceuticals. Those pharmaceuticals are then sold for substantially cheaper outside of the States than within the States. I guess the argument is that the cost burden is on the States whereas the rest of the world gets the benefit without that cost.
If the tariff is enacted, I'm guessing it'll be similar to what's happened with China, but this time with India - India (who manufactures plenty of generic medicine much of which is relied on by the States' market) will retaliate with hefty tariffs on their drugs. Net result: more expensive things for everybody. Again. If this isn't realistic, I'd appreciate if someone could help me understand why.
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Always remember, if you throw a dead cat off a tall enough building it’ll bounce when it hits the ground…
The Dow is still down close to 5k points from its highs a couple weeks ago. 125% tariffs still in place on China, 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico on goods not covered by USMCA and 10% tariff on all other countries.for 90 days.
Did anything really change that much, not really. Beware the dead cat bounce…
Yeah, Joe blow buying back in is gonna get fucked, again.
The only people making any money off this are the people already rich. The people in the know (fraud).
What a dumpster fire.
Tariffs are an absolute dumpster fire but when he targets big pharma, he is onto something. I get it’s a slippery slope targeting medicine.
but non Americans pay cents on the dollar when it comes to American made pharmaceuticals. He better have 0% tariffs on the other countries that produce medicine to a large extent, Switzerland, South Korea, etc.
and we see how much liberals on the far left care about people who aren’t in their tiny little clubs. Scream yell fight protest only people in their little tiny clubs get rights so why should we subsidize the worlds medical supply with 0% tariffs?
In what way are you subsidizing the words medical supply?
Universities and teaching hospitals receive federal funding, much of which goes into R&D for pharmaceuticals. Those pharmaceuticals are then sold for substantially cheaper outside of the States than within the States. I guess the argument is that the cost burden is on the States whereas the rest of the world gets the benefit without that cost.
If the tariff is enacted, I'm guessing it'll be similar to what's happened with China, but this time with India - India (who manufactures plenty of generic medicine much of which is relied on by the States' market) will retaliate with hefty tariffs on their drugs. Net result: more expensive things for everybody. Again. If this isn't realistic, I'd appreciate if someone could help me understand why.
The US doesn’t pay 10% more or 20%, but about 300%.
We manufacture plenty of generic drugs here. It may cost a little more to move more generic manufacturing here but I don’t see price tripling.
Best case scenario is they settle this with trade deals. Bidens approach to cutting what we pay for Rx was much worse, and only benefitted those on govt plans.
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Small business owner: This additional 10% is really squeezing our access to capital. It's really created a stressful, volatile, uncertain environment for us. This is an increased cost of business, and I'm not sure to what end. My company is the one paying the tariff. We're trying to increase jobs here in Wisconsin and this is putting a terrible stress on our ability to grow
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The European Union and China have started negotiations to abolish EU tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles. This is why China WANTS the trade war with the US.
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Under Trump (2016–2020), U.S. manufacturing investment stagnated, according to U.S. Census Bureau data visualized by Michael Thomas. After Biden took office, investment surged—driven by the CHIPS and Inflation Reduction Acts, per the White House and Council of Economic Advisers.
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and we see how much liberals on the far left care about people who aren’t in their tiny little clubs. Scream yell fight protest only people in their little tiny clubs get rights so why should we subsidize the worlds medical supply with 0% tariffs?
What does this mean? What are the tiny clubs you're referencing?
I'm not on the far left, but it seems to me as a moderate lifelong independent that liberals, both in the modern political sense and in the classical sense, are generally in favor of broad-based rights for everyone. Everyone has a right to safe food and drinking water, to due process, to vote without undue restriction and to have that vote counted fairly, to love whom you wish and to express that love, to have access to affordable, quality healthcare.
All you have to do to see the difference between the right and the left when it comes to rights is to look at voting. Every single attempt to make it harder for citizens to vote has come from the right, and many of those efforts have been rather transparently cynically targeted towards people who tend not to vote for candidates on the right. Meanwhile, Democrats don't advance bills anywhere to make it harder for people to vote, regardless of whether those people are demographically inclined to vote for Democrats or not. The great irony is that Republicans have been so committed to suppressing the vote for so long that the political ground has shifted to where greater turnout now favors Republicans more than Democrats, a reversal of the way things had been for decades. The less engaged people who are least likely to vote in every election now favor Republicans, and the most engaged voters now tend to vote for Democrats. The more engaged you are, the more you are able to navigate whatever hurdles are thrown up in front of you. If you're someone who votes only once every four years, if that, you're less savvy about how to navigate the system and that could lead to you being shut out at the polls. So the Republicans might end up making it harder for their own voters to vote than they will for the Democratic-inclined voters they've been trying to suppress.
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and we see how much liberals on the far left care about people who aren’t in their tiny little clubs. Scream yell fight protest only people in their little tiny clubs get rights so why should we subsidize the worlds medical supply with 0% tariffs?
What does this mean? What are the tiny clubs you're referencing?
I'm not on the far left, but it seems to me as a moderate lifelong independent that liberals, both in the modern political sense and in the classical sense, are generally in favor of broad-based rights for everyone. Everyone has a right to safe food and drinking water, to due process, to vote without undue restriction and to have that vote counted fairly, to love whom you wish and to express that love, to have access to affordable, quality healthcare.
All you have to do to see the difference between the right and the left when it comes to rights is to look at voting. Every single attempt to make it harder for citizens to vote has come from the right, and many of those efforts have been rather transparently cynically targeted towards people who tend not to vote for candidates on the right. Meanwhile, Democrats don't advance bills anywhere to make it harder for people to vote, regardless of whether those people are demographically inclined to vote for Democrats or not. The great irony is that Republicans have been so committed to suppressing the vote for so long that the political ground has shifted to where greater turnout now favors Republicans more than Democrats, a reversal of the way things had been for decades. The less engaged people who are least likely to vote in every election now favor Republicans, and the most engaged voters now tend to vote for Democrats. The more engaged you are, the more you are able to navigate whatever hurdles are thrown up in front of you. If you're someone who votes only once every four years, if that, you're less savvy about how to navigate the system and that could lead to you being shut out at the polls. So the Republicans might end up making it harder for their own voters to vote than they will for the Democratic-inclined voters they've been trying to suppress.
Excellent post!
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Cigarettes from Florida, beef from Kansas and Nebraska, chicken from Louisiana, car parts from Michigan, and most importantly, soybeans.
https://trib.al/shcveJM
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but non Americans pay cents on the dollar when it comes to American made pharmaceuticals. He better have 0% tariffs on the other countries that produce medicine to a large extent, Switzerland, South Korea, etc.
and we see how much liberals on the far left care about people who aren’t in their tiny little clubs. Scream yell fight protest only people in their little tiny clubs get rights so why should we subsidize the worlds medical supply with 0% tariffs?
In what way are you subsidizing the words medical supply?
If the tariff is enacted, I'm guessing it'll be similar to what's happened with China, but this time with India - India (who manufactures plenty of generic medicine much of which is relied on by the States' market) will retaliate with hefty tariffs on their drugs. Net result: more expensive things for everybody. Again. If this isn't realistic, I'd appreciate if someone could help me understand why.
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We manufacture plenty of generic drugs here. It may cost a little more to move more generic manufacturing here but I don’t see price tripling.
Best case scenario is they settle this with trade deals. Bidens approach to cutting what we pay for Rx was much worse, and only benefitted those on govt plans.
9:37am tweet to “buy”
1:40pm announcement on “tariff pause”
2:46pm this video “This is Charles Schwab (…), he made $2.5B, and he $900M.”
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This is a major strategic failure for the United States.
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Zachary Erdeljac wore a red MAGA hard hat, safety gear and praised Trump's tariffs
https://meidasnews.com/news/white-house-coal-miner-is-actually-a-supervisor-for-a-company-that-recently-laid-off-165
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The whole world is turning its back on the US thanks to Trump.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/eu-china-start-talks-lifting-eu-tariffs-chinese-electric-vehicles-handelsblatt-2025-04-10/
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We can't. We need answers.
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This program gave free Black lung screenings to coal miners.
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I'm not on the far left, but it seems to me as a moderate lifelong independent that liberals, both in the modern political sense and in the classical sense, are generally in favor of broad-based rights for everyone. Everyone has a right to safe food and drinking water, to due process, to vote without undue restriction and to have that vote counted fairly, to love whom you wish and to express that love, to have access to affordable, quality healthcare.
All you have to do to see the difference between the right and the left when it comes to rights is to look at voting. Every single attempt to make it harder for citizens to vote has come from the right, and many of those efforts have been rather transparently cynically targeted towards people who tend not to vote for candidates on the right. Meanwhile, Democrats don't advance bills anywhere to make it harder for people to vote, regardless of whether those people are demographically inclined to vote for Democrats or not. The great irony is that Republicans have been so committed to suppressing the vote for so long that the political ground has shifted to where greater turnout now favors Republicans more than Democrats, a reversal of the way things had been for decades. The less engaged people who are least likely to vote in every election now favor Republicans, and the most engaged voters now tend to vote for Democrats. The more engaged you are, the more you are able to navigate whatever hurdles are thrown up in front of you. If you're someone who votes only once every four years, if that, you're less savvy about how to navigate the system and that could lead to you being shut out at the polls. So the Republicans might end up making it harder for their own voters to vote than they will for the Democratic-inclined voters they've been trying to suppress.
https://cleantechnica.com/2025/04/05/china-just-turned-off-u-s-supplies-of-minerals-critical-for-defense-cleantech/
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Receipts:
CSMS 64649265 4/4: order of duties reported (2)
CSMS 64687696 4/9: 84% (3)
CSMS 64701138 4/10: 125% (4)
The why is, they know fentanyl tariffs were separate from the “reciprocal” tariffs because CBP published it on dir from DHS on 4/4.
If the WH forgot, they’re unreliable. If they knew, they’re lying. Pick your poison
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