Yield

RockKing · July 2007

meme wrote:

I would like to add to this that favorite line of mine, from low light "clear a path to my home". I love that there is no sense of "going BACK home". Home is something to be earned, a goal, something in the future (reminds me of that Soul Asylum line: "I am so homesick but it ain't that bad cause I'm homesick for the home I never had".

Very nice. I never even thought about it that way, but that makes total sense. Again, it's motion. Moving towards a goal rather than moving away from something. Once you've escaped, you can never truly go back to the way things were, but if you work at it, you can strive to move forward from that point and get to the place where you want to be. Good stuff.

yosi1 · July 2007

RockKing wrote:

I already talked a little Riot Act this morning.....Crazy Friday

I know, it was totally weird.

rhinomagic · July 2007

Has anyone here ever discussed Pearl Jam opening four dates for the Rolling Stones in November 1997 as a prologue to/outgrowth of the nature of YIELD?

I know it's not measure-able by lyrical content, musical style, or inherent symbolism, but I think--for where they seemed to be in their careers and relationships with each other as co-creators--the chance to open for the Stones provided one more outlet in which to yield to themselves, their forerunners, and the album-making process.

Plus, it probably just felt good to play some of these songs live for the first time.

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RockKing · July 2007

rhinomagic wrote:

Has anyone here ever discussed Pearl Jam opening four dates for the Rolling Stones in November 1997 as a prologue to/outgrowth of the nature of YIELD?

I know it's not measure-able by lyrical content, musical style, or inherent symbolism, but I think--for where they seemed to be in their careers and relationships with each other as co-creators--the chance to open for the Stones provided one more outlet in which to yield to themselves, their forerunners, and the album-making process.

Plus, it probably just felt good to play some of these songs live for the first time.

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What were the dates of these shows? Had the band already recorded the album, or were they in the middle of recording it? I don't know the answers to these questions, but they could be good ones.

BlkFlg1 · July 2007

RockKing wrote:

Why is that Fridays, the days when I have the least to do at work, are also the days that nobody is ever around to talk about YIELD?

Hello all,

I am at a school session (on the Pepperdine campus) and they have us busy most of the time, so, I have little time to devote to this righteous thread.

Be well,

M

YieldInHiding · July 2007

BlkFlg wrote:

Hello all,

I am at a school session (on the Pepperdine campus) and they have us busy most of the time, so, I have little time to devote to this righteus thread.

Be well,

M

I guess they didn't tell him how to spell righteous at P-dine. Fucking cake eaters.

We're on the verge of getting some YIELD live again. I want to see 50,000 or however many people will be at the lolla show pogoing to DTE. I think it'd be quite the sight.

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

YieldInHiding wrote:

We're on the verge of getting some YIELD live again. I want to see 50,000 or however many people will be at the lolla show pogoing to ATY. I think it'd be quite the sight.

Fixed.

rhinomagic · July 2007

RockKing wrote:

What were the dates of these shows? Had the band already recorded the album, or were they in the middle of recording it? I don't know the answers to these questions, but they could be good ones.

The dates of the Oakland shows were Nov 14, 15, 18, 19. There was also a surprise show on the 12th at a club in Santa Cruz.

The YIELD songs performed these nights were:

Given to Fly (12, 14, 19)
Do the Evolution (12, 14, 15, 18, 19)
Wishlist (12, 14, 15)
Brain of J (12, 15, 18)

Since the album was released on February 3, 1998, I would guess the tracks were mostly recorded and in final stages of production by the time they opened for the Stones. There are large chunks of time spent off the road in 1997, so that's why I made the guess that the songs were nearly finishe. Perhaps there are some interviews or a timeline to help establish this?

Still strikes me as a YIELD-y thing to do. Wondering what the rest think of it...

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likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

rhinomagic wrote:

The dates of the Oakland shows were Nov 14, 15, 18, 19. There was also a surprise show on the 12th at a club in Santa Cruz.

The YIELD songs performed these nights were:

Given to Fly (12, 14, 19)
Do the Evolution (12, 14, 15, 18, 19)
Wishlist (12, 14, 15)
Brain of J (12, 15, 18)

Since the album was released on February 3, 1998, I would guess the tracks were mostly recorded and in final stages of production by the time they opened for the Stones. There are large chunks of time spent off the road in 1997, so that's why I made the guess that the songs were nearly finishe. Perhaps there are some interviews or a timeline to help establish this?

Still strikes me as a YIELD-y thing to do. Wondering what the rest think of it...

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Thanks for the info.
Interesting question. I know some bands write songs then road test them before even recording. I would imagine here that the record was already done since it must take a few months at least to print and distribute the album before the release date.
I definitely think that the songs change over time though when they play em live...Not For You, with the almost obligatory tag now, things like that. But even subtle things, like Jeff's bass line in RVM, have changed too.

rhinomagic · July 2007

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

Thanks for the info.
Interesting question. I know some bands write songs then road test them before even recording. I would imagine here that the record was already done since it must take a few months at least to print and distribute the album before the release date.
I definitely think that the songs change over time though when they play em live...Not For You, with the almost obligatory tag now, things like that. But even subtle things, like Jeff's bass line in RVM, have changed too.

Yeah, I think the performances of Brain of J and MFC before 1997 are proof that songs evolve and bands test them in a live setting. That seems pretty straightforward (and in line with YIELD theories elsewhere in the thread).

My observation is aimed more directly at the act of Pearl Jam accepting an opening slot for the Stones. For four nights. At that point in their careers. I guess I was alluding to a carry-over or collective YIELD experience among the bandmembers, having recorded or having been in-process with the record at the time.

Listening to the bootlegs might provide some evidence to support or refute the band member's headspace at the time, especially Ed. But so far, no one has mentioned whether s/he has the recordings.

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PissBottleMan · July 2007

rhinomagic wrote:

Given to Fly (12, 14, 19)
Do the Evolution (12, 14, 15, 18, 19)
Wishlist (12, 14, 15)
Brain of J (12, 15, 18)

It seems the fate of the live versions of YIELD songs were sealed back in '97/'98.

They had their pet songs and have (for the most part) stayed pretty close to those 3 tracks for the better part of 10 years.

PBM

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

rhinomagic wrote:

Yeah, I think the performances of Brain of J and MFC before 1997 are proof that songs evolve and bands test them in a live setting. That seems pretty straightforward (and in line with YIELD theories elsewhere in the thread).

My observation is aimed more directly at the act of Pearl Jam accepting an opening slot for the Stones. For four nights. At that point in their careers. I guess I was alluding to a carry-over or collective YIELD experience among the bandmembers, having recorded or having been in-process with the record at the time.

Listening to the bootlegs might provide some evidence to support or refute the band member's headspace at the time, especially Ed. But so far, no one has mentioned whether s/he has the recordings.

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Well, they opened for the Stones again recently, so they enjoy doing it, and I can't imagine they'd say no if asked, so I don't blame them at all for that. It's pretty cool, actually.

http://thearmyreserve.blogspot.com/
That place has a bunch of boots, not sure if 97 is up yet.
They did play Santa Cruz around that point too, playing a bunch of the YIELD songs in a club there. Those sound cool.

BlkFlg1 · July 2007

YieldInHiding wrote:

I guess they didn't tell him how to spell righteous at P-dine. Fucking cake eaters.

We're on the verge of getting some YIELD live again. I want to see 50,000 or however many people will be at the lolla show pogoing to DTE. I think it'd be quite the sight.

to busy praying and worshipping bush to spell.

yes- pogoing during DTE will be a sight. I call GTF as well- mass pogoing before the chorus. In Hiding is an outlier and has distant odds but is a possible bet....

YieldInHiding · July 2007

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

Fixed.

Good call bro.

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

YieldInHiding wrote:

Good call bro.

We can hope, can't we?

YieldInHiding · July 2007

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

We can hope, can't we?

A (wise?) man said something like "You can dream. It's good to have dreams." I think that's about where we are right now.

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

YieldInHiding wrote:

A (wise?) man said something like "You can dream. It's good to have dreams." I think that's about where we are right now.

We'll always forgive a criminal...but never the dreamer.

Dream on.

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4627517&postcount=3

distantsun · July 2007

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4627517&postcount=3

someone needs to move on.

glasshouse · July 2007

think i should give yield a spin

have any of you clever fuckers read Fyodor Dostoevsky's novella "the idiot".
i bought it a couple of days ago. apparently it's one of the finest work of literature to this very day. it's about "the perfectly beautiful man"....weird but interesting - supposedly with a strong Christian undertone. haven't started yet. looking forward though. currently busy digesting "to kill a mockingbird" - now that shit is tight. think i'm in love with Scout.

anyway thought this may be a yield-like post. don't hate me, i'm too cool for your scorn.

Yield

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