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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,171
    mickeyrat said:
    The Christchurch shooter specifically referenced trump as inspiration did he not? 

    Along w/ the El Paso Walmart shooter and the Tree of Life Synagogue shooter, if I recall correctly, but I could be mistaken.
  • hunterh75hunterh75 Posts: 67
    PJ played Antioch in 2000 and 2003. Starwood Amphitheater. And my point?  Don't have one , just an interesting tidbit.  Now back to your regular scheduled TRUMP bashing and other anti-America nonsense.........
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,171
    mickeyrat said:
    The Christchurch shooter specifically referenced trump as inspiration did he not? 

    Along w/ the El Paso Walmart shooter and the Tree of Life Synagogue shooter, if I recall correctly, but I could be mistaken.
    Went back & had a look, because I recalled there was some mention of trump in his manifesto… he did not directly cite trump as inspiration, but he made sure to mention he appreciated what he was doing for the white race. 

    “The manifesto also included a single reference to President Donald Trump in which the author asked and answered the question of whether he was a Trump supporter: “As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.”
    https://apnews.com/article/immigration-shootings-ap-top-news-international-news-australia-1e19fefcb2e948a1bf7ce63429bc186e


  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,380
    hunterh75 said:
    PJ played Antioch in 2000 and 2003. Starwood Amphitheater. And my point?  Don't have one , just an interesting tidbit.  Now back to your regular scheduled TRUMP bashing and other anti-America nonsense.........
    If you don’t comply, you’re anti-American. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,171
    hunterh75 said:
    PJ played Antioch in 2000 and 2003. Starwood Amphitheater. And my point?  Don't have one , just an interesting tidbit.  Now back to your regular scheduled TRUMP bashing and other anti-America nonsense.........
    If you don’t comply, you’re anti-American. 
    There’s nothing more anti-American than exercising one’s 1st Amendment right to criticize the government. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,702
    Freedumb, baby. Might as well get that man a drivers license as well.

    To protest Indiana’s gun laws, a blind man got a handgun license

    Terry Sutherland stirred debate about blind people’s right to carry firearms after he obtained a handgun license to make a statement about Indiana’s gun laws.

    When Terry Sutherland argued about gun laws with family and friends over the years, he would often joke about whether he — a legally blind man — should get a gun permit.

    Everyone would laugh. Sutherland didn’t think it was possible.

    “But eventually it kind of started weighing on me,” Sutherland told The Washington Post. “And I started thinking, ‘I wonder if it’s actually possible, and what would it mean if I could?’”

    So last fall, Sutherland applied for an Indiana license to carry a handgun. He expected someone to stop him at some point in the application process, he said, or at least test if he could shoot at a target.

    A few months later, Sutherland received his permit, as Indianapolis news channel WISH-TV first reported. He put it in a clear case and wears it on a yellow lanyard around his neck in hopes of starting conversations about Indiana’s gun laws, which he said are too lenient toward blind people. Sutherland hasn’t changed anyone’s opinions, he said, but some people have been shocked that he received the license.

    Whether blind people in the United States should be allowed to carry guns has been debated for decades. Some blind people, like Sutherland, say they can’t aim at a target. Others say blind people should be allowed to own and use guns under the Second Amendment, and note that many blind people use their guns to hunt with the aid of unimpaired friends.

    Sutherland, who said his family members taught him how to use a gun as a teenager in northern Indiana before he lost his vision, said all visually impaired people shouldn’t be prohibited from carrying guns. But he said Indiana should test if applicants can shoot a target accurately before approving licenses — a policy some states enforce.

    “It’s just an absurd notion, common-sense wise, for me to have a gun that I should be able to use for personal protection, when I’m more likely to shoot someone who’s not involved — shoot an innocent person — than I am my own attacker,” said Sutherland, 58.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/02/06/blind-people-gun-laws-indiana/

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,457
    Everyone has the right to protect themselves himself from a tyrannical government. Everyone.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,966
    guess this goes here...


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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,796
    Repacking all my PJ tees (ridiculously too many) and came across this one.
    Remember when this was still true? 

  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,759
    Seems weird that so many gun enthusiasts claim they are protected by the constitution yet so many of them agree with Trump skirting the constitution when it suits him.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,966

    NEW: The Colorado House just passed a bill that would raise the minimum age to buy ammunition to 21 and require ammunition be sold by a vendor.
     
    We urge lawmakers to push this crucial public safety measure forward to prevent ammunition from falling into the wrong hands.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,832
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Seems weird that so many gun enthusiasts claim they are protected by the constitution yet so many of them agree with Trump skirting the constitution when it suits him.
    Yes, they also claim to believe in "law and order," but not for convicted felon* Trump or his supporters (e.g., the January 6 traitors).

    * And that's not even counting the crimes he clearly committed but was given a pass for by being elected.
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,133
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Seems weird that so many gun enthusiasts claim they are protected by the constitution yet so many of them agree with Trump skirting the constitution when it suits him.
    Plenty of "gun enthusiasts" who are not Trump supporters as well.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,703
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Seems weird that so many gun enthusiasts claim they are protected by the constitution yet so many of them agree with Trump skirting the constitution when it suits him.
    Well said.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,966
    dudeman said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Seems weird that so many gun enthusiasts claim they are protected by the constitution yet so many of them agree with Trump skirting the constitution when it suits him.
    Plenty of "gun enthusiasts" who are not Trump supporters as well.

    yeah. thats how I read "so many" instead of all.....
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    REAL LEADERSHIP! The Colorado Senate has passed a restriction on the sale of semi-automatic assault rifles requiring individuals seeking to purchase these weapons to pass a thorough background check, complete safety training, and receive a permit to do so.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,702
    61 years old. Wife of 39 years in the car with the grandkids. Tejas. But did anyone check his residency status?

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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 5,087
    edited March 21
    Freedumb, baby. Might as well get that man a drivers license as well.

    To protest Indiana’s gun laws, a blind man got a handgun license

    Terry Sutherland stirred debate about blind people’s right to carry firearms after he obtained a handgun license to make a statement about Indiana’s gun laws.

    When Terry Sutherland argued about gun laws with family and friends over the years, he would often joke about whether he — a legally blind man — should get a gun permit.

    Everyone would laugh. Sutherland didn’t think it was possible.

    “But eventually it kind of started weighing on me,” Sutherland told The Washington Post. “And I started thinking, ‘I wonder if it’s actually possible, and what would it mean if I could?’”

    So last fall, Sutherland applied for an Indiana license to carry a handgun. He expected someone to stop him at some point in the application process, he said, or at least test if he could shoot at a target.

    A few months later, Sutherland received his permit, as Indianapolis news channel WISH-TV first reported. He put it in a clear case and wears it on a yellow lanyard around his neck in hopes of starting conversations about Indiana’s gun laws, which he said are too lenient toward blind people. Sutherland hasn’t changed anyone’s opinions, he said, but some people have been shocked that he received the license.

    Whether blind people in the United States should be allowed to carry guns has been debated for decades. Some blind people, like Sutherland, say they can’t aim at a target. Others say blind people should be allowed to own and use guns under the Second Amendment, and note that many blind people use their guns to hunt with the aid of unimpaired friends.

    Sutherland, who said his family members taught him how to use a gun as a teenager in northern Indiana before he lost his vision, said all visually impaired people shouldn’t be prohibited from carrying guns. But he said Indiana should test if applicants can shoot a target accurately before approving licenses — a policy some states enforce.

    “It’s just an absurd notion, common-sense wise, for me to have a gun that I should be able to use for personal protection, when I’m more likely to shoot someone who’s not involved — shoot an innocent person — than I am my own attacker,” said Sutherland, 58.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/02/06/blind-people-gun-laws-indiana/

    I work in Indiana. This comes as no shock to me.

    Edit: I checked and blind people can buy guns in Illinois too. That was surprising to read. 
    Post edited by JeBurkhardt on
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,899
    Anybody watching The Pitt on Max?

    last episode delt with a mass shooting at a music festival from the perspective of an ER. Made me sick to my stomach. 
  • treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,925
    Guns suck 


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    A South Florida bus driver pulled out a weapon and opened fire, killing two passengers, authorities said Sunday. Police in Miami Gardens said the driver had been involved in a "disturbance" with passengers on the bus prior to the shooting.

    Read more: https://abcnews.link/9W6inp5
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,966

    Missouri's House passed HB 328 today:

    It would lower the age required for a concealed carry permit from 19 to 18, & allow anyone with said permit to carry a firearm on public transportation.

    A high schooler could have a gun on a bus.

    Party-line vote, except for 2 Democrats voting Yes.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,703
    mickeyrat said:

    Missouri's House passed HB 328 today:

    It would lower the age required for a concealed carry permit from 19 to 18, & allow anyone with said permit to carry a firearm on public transportation.

    A high schooler could have a gun on a bus.

    Party-line vote, except for 2 Democrats voting Yes.
    This is interesting.  Federal law says 21 to own a handgun but you can buy one in Missouri as a person to person.  You can also CC if you are not a felon and no class is needed unless you wish to carry in certain cities or do the reciprocal states.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,640
    edited April 11
    mickeyrat said:

    Missouri's House passed HB 328 today:

    It would lower the age required for a concealed carry permit from 19 to 18, & allow anyone with said permit to carry a firearm on public transportation.

    A high schooler could have a gun on a bus.

    Party-line vote, except for 2 Democrats voting Yes.
    This is interesting.  Federal law says 21 to own a handgun but you can buy one in Missouri as a person to person.  You can also CC if you are not a felon and no class is needed unless you wish to carry in certain cities or do the reciprocal states.
    I was thinking something similar. I grew up in California until I was 30, so those were the only laws I was familiar with for a long time. I don't thnk Federal law says you need to be 21 to own a gun.
    Federal law states you can only buy a handgun from a firearms dealer if you're 21, but from my understanding it doesn't limit "owning" one. In some states allow you can do a private party purchase at 18, but still have to wait until 21 before you can purchase from a dealer.  
    There does need to be more consistency and common sense on the laws. 
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    At least four victims hospitalized 😭🙏
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