No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :
“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.
I thought the article contained no details, lol?
I was obviously talking about the school board meeting when I said that. The details quoted above are from a separate incident, from the same article, but your insatiable thirst for a gotcha moment betrayed you.
I’m trying to figure out what the standard is here, maybe I’m confused by your writing. Has nothing to do with a gotcha.
First you’re utterly dismissive of Warmington’s first column then quote the second? Do you accept the account in the second article then? If so, what are your thoughts on the Jewish student quoted in that article? Is it possible the “Islamophobic” incident has made it easier for some to be dismissive of this student’s claims?
the original point of "no details, no judgment" stands. The article gives no details, only that certain people support the account, etc etc. I haven't read or heard one word of what transpired at the school board meeting. There's no details in that article about the meeting.
My second point was as I stated above, that the reason I no longer just kneejerk believes things is because of, partly, that cutting hijab false incident. I'm not saying the school board meeting didn't devolve into some anti-Semitic rant, I just haven't seen any first hand accounts of what it was. And part of that stems from, and I'm going to tread lightly as I can here...whenever I see someone scream "anti-semite", I honestly pay nearly zero attention. Almost any criticism of the israeli government, not any mention of jewish people themselves, and you are IMMEDIATELY branded an anti-semite, you are pro-war, you are directly or indirectly calling for the extermination of the jewish people etc. Just look at that other poster's replies to anyone who disagrees with them. And they are not the outlier. I've seen it time and again, and it just desensitizes people to the true nature and dangers of anti-semitism.
Just like I don't support every woman's failure to reach the pinnacle is misogyny. Just like I don't support every black man's job loss as racism.
100% those things happen. But those things happen aren't 100%.
It's like, ok, I support israel's right to exist. But I no longer support your fight for it. It's exhausting being on the same team and being attacked constantly while doing it.
Thank you for explaining, I need to point out there were two reliable (at least to me) sources in the first column: one of the trustees and a city councillor who was present.
And it would be nice to not be dismissed as labelling anyone criticizing Israel as an antisemite. I don’t believe I’ve ever said that and have explained my point of view a few posts back.
If I am the other poster he referred…amazing the rules enforcement here, all I’ve ever said is wonder why Palestinian “govt” gets a free pass. How we are supposed to ignore their invasion and murdering of civilians that began this battle?
Have the Palestinians ever taken any action to win control of their government?
Have the Palestinians ever acted responsibly as a sovereign nation? Were they ever a sovereign nation? Have they ever looked to peacefully exist?
These questions are always met here with anger and the evils from Netanyahu. Ultimate whataboutism. These are legitimate questions anyone wanting peace in the region would be interested in. Yet on this forum, they are always met with hatred and an unwillingness to have an honest discussion about peace. Eventually , I will stop wondering why.
No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :
“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.
I thought the article contained no details, lol?
I was obviously talking about the school board meeting when I said that. The details quoted above are from a separate incident, from the same article, but your insatiable thirst for a gotcha moment betrayed you.
I’m trying to figure out what the standard is here, maybe I’m confused by your writing. Has nothing to do with a gotcha.
First you’re utterly dismissive of Warmington’s first column then quote the second? Do you accept the account in the second article then? If so, what are your thoughts on the Jewish student quoted in that article? Is it possible the “Islamophobic” incident has made it easier for some to be dismissive of this student’s claims?
the original point of "no details, no judgment" stands. The article gives no details, only that certain people support the account, etc etc. I haven't read or heard one word of what transpired at the school board meeting. There's no details in that article about the meeting.
My second point was as I stated above, that the reason I no longer just kneejerk believes things is because of, partly, that cutting hijab false incident. I'm not saying the school board meeting didn't devolve into some anti-Semitic rant, I just haven't seen any first hand accounts of what it was. And part of that stems from, and I'm going to tread lightly as I can here...whenever I see someone scream "anti-semite", I honestly pay nearly zero attention. Almost any criticism of the israeli government, not any mention of jewish people themselves, and you are IMMEDIATELY branded an anti-semite, you are pro-war, you are directly or indirectly calling for the extermination of the jewish people etc. Just look at that other poster's replies to anyone who disagrees with them. And they are not the outlier. I've seen it time and again, and it just desensitizes people to the true nature and dangers of anti-semitism.
Just like I don't support every woman's failure to reach the pinnacle is misogyny. Just like I don't support every black man's job loss as racism.
100% those things happen. But those things happen aren't 100%.
It's like, ok, I support israel's right to exist. But I no longer support your fight for it. It's exhausting being on the same team and being attacked constantly while doing it.
Thank you for explaining, I need to point out there were two reliable (at least to me) sources in the first column: one of the trustees and a city councillor who was present.
And it would be nice to not be dismissed as labelling anyone criticizing Israel as an antisemite. I don’t believe I’ve ever said that and have explained my point of view a few posts back.
If I am the other poster he referred…amazing the rules enforcement here, all I’ve ever said is wonder why Palestinian “govt” gets a free pass. How we are supposed to ignore their invasion and murdering of civilians that began this battle?
Have the Palestinians ever taken any action to win control of their government?
Have the Palestinians ever acted responsibly as a sovereign nation? Were they ever a sovereign nation? Have they ever looked to peacefully exist?
These questions are always met here with anger and the evils from Netanyahu. Ultimate whataboutism. These are legitimate questions anyone wanting peace in the region would be interested in. Yet on this forum, they are always met with hatred and an unwillingness to have an honest discussion about peace. Eventually , I will stop wondering why.
No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :
“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.
I thought the article contained no details, lol?
I was obviously talking about the school board meeting when I said that. The details quoted above are from a separate incident, from the same article, but your insatiable thirst for a gotcha moment betrayed you.
I’m trying to figure out what the standard is here, maybe I’m confused by your writing. Has nothing to do with a gotcha.
First you’re utterly dismissive of Warmington’s first column then quote the second? Do you accept the account in the second article then? If so, what are your thoughts on the Jewish student quoted in that article? Is it possible the “Islamophobic” incident has made it easier for some to be dismissive of this student’s claims?
the original point of "no details, no judgment" stands. The article gives no details, only that certain people support the account, etc etc. I haven't read or heard one word of what transpired at the school board meeting. There's no details in that article about the meeting.
My second point was as I stated above, that the reason I no longer just kneejerk believes things is because of, partly, that cutting hijab false incident. I'm not saying the school board meeting didn't devolve into some anti-Semitic rant, I just haven't seen any first hand accounts of what it was. And part of that stems from, and I'm going to tread lightly as I can here...whenever I see someone scream "anti-semite", I honestly pay nearly zero attention. Almost any criticism of the israeli government, not any mention of jewish people themselves, and you are IMMEDIATELY branded an anti-semite, you are pro-war, you are directly or indirectly calling for the extermination of the jewish people etc. Just look at that other poster's replies to anyone who disagrees with them. And they are not the outlier. I've seen it time and again, and it just desensitizes people to the true nature and dangers of anti-semitism.
Just like I don't support every woman's failure to reach the pinnacle is misogyny. Just like I don't support every black man's job loss as racism.
100% those things happen. But those things happen aren't 100%.
It's like, ok, I support israel's right to exist. But I no longer support your fight for it. It's exhausting being on the same team and being attacked constantly while doing it.
Thank you for explaining, I need to point out there were two reliable (at least to me) sources in the first column: one of the trustees and a city councillor who was present.
And it would be nice to not be dismissed as labelling anyone criticizing Israel as an antisemite. I don’t believe I’ve ever said that and have explained my point of view a few posts back.
If I am the other poster he referred…amazing the rules enforcement here, all I’ve ever said is wonder why Palestinian “govt” gets a free pass. How we are supposed to ignore their invasion and murdering of civilians that began this battle?
Have the Palestinians ever taken any action to win control of their government?
Have the Palestinians ever acted responsibly as a sovereign nation? Were they ever a sovereign nation? Have they ever looked to peacefully exist?
These questions are always met here with anger and the evils from Netanyahu. Ultimate whataboutism. These are legitimate questions anyone wanting peace in the region would be interested in. Yet on this forum, they are always met with hatred and an unwillingness to have an honest discussion about peace. Eventually , I will stop wondering why.
the rules of enforcement? like constantly baselessly accusing everyone here how we are all pro-perpetual war (false) supporters of Iran (false) and "wonder why" every other post about why we disagree with Netanyahu. RICH
this *particular* battle started oct 7. to suggest the resolution to a decades long conflict (and illegal aggression/displacement/occupation) based on that is insanely absurd. You are rationalizing the murder of tens of thousands of palestinians because of a thousand israelis.
You only want peace if israel gets everything it wants. We want peace that benefits all peoples.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :
“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.
I thought the article contained no details, lol?
I was obviously talking about the school board meeting when I said that. The details quoted above are from a separate incident, from the same article, but your insatiable thirst for a gotcha moment betrayed you.
I’m trying to figure out what the standard is here, maybe I’m confused by your writing. Has nothing to do with a gotcha.
First you’re utterly dismissive of Warmington’s first column then quote the second? Do you accept the account in the second article then? If so, what are your thoughts on the Jewish student quoted in that article? Is it possible the “Islamophobic” incident has made it easier for some to be dismissive of this student’s claims?
the original point of "no details, no judgment" stands. The article gives no details, only that certain people support the account, etc etc. I haven't read or heard one word of what transpired at the school board meeting. There's no details in that article about the meeting.
My second point was as I stated above, that the reason I no longer just kneejerk believes things is because of, partly, that cutting hijab false incident. I'm not saying the school board meeting didn't devolve into some anti-Semitic rant, I just haven't seen any first hand accounts of what it was. And part of that stems from, and I'm going to tread lightly as I can here...whenever I see someone scream "anti-semite", I honestly pay nearly zero attention. Almost any criticism of the israeli government, not any mention of jewish people themselves, and you are IMMEDIATELY branded an anti-semite, you are pro-war, you are directly or indirectly calling for the extermination of the jewish people etc. Just look at that other poster's replies to anyone who disagrees with them. And they are not the outlier. I've seen it time and again, and it just desensitizes people to the true nature and dangers of anti-semitism.
Just like I don't support every woman's failure to reach the pinnacle is misogyny. Just like I don't support every black man's job loss as racism.
100% those things happen. But those things happen aren't 100%.
It's like, ok, I support israel's right to exist. But I no longer support your fight for it. It's exhausting being on the same team and being attacked constantly while doing it.
Thank you for explaining, I need to point out there were two reliable (at least to me) sources in the first column: one of the trustees and a city councillor who was present.
And it would be nice to not be dismissed as labelling anyone criticizing Israel as an antisemite. I don’t believe I’ve ever said that and have explained my point of view a few posts back.
If I am the other poster he referred…amazing the rules enforcement here, all I’ve ever said is wonder why Palestinian “govt” gets a free pass. How we are supposed to ignore their invasion and murdering of civilians that began this battle?
Have the Palestinians ever taken any action to win control of their government?
Have the Palestinians ever acted responsibly as a sovereign nation? Were they ever a sovereign nation? Have they ever looked to peacefully exist?
These questions are always met here with anger and the evils from Netanyahu. Ultimate whataboutism. These are legitimate questions anyone wanting peace in the region would be interested in. Yet on this forum, they are always met with hatred and an unwillingness to have an honest discussion about peace. Eventually , I will stop wondering why.
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No it doesn’t exist. It’s not real. The Toronto School Board is in on it, too. It’s all fake news.
Just wanting the two sides to negotiate peace gets humans to curse me out on this forum, and no action is ever taken as a result.
Yes Netanyahu is an extremist, but what can be expected when its neighbor votes for Hamas and does nothing to stop their authoritarian takeover of their land? And support repeated violent attacks on civilians? At least they can vote. Speak against that, wanting peace, gets you cursed out here. Because I want peace I must support Netanyahu. It’s endless from those who cannot see anything other than continued war.
Worth including part of your link:
“ B’nai Brith Canada director of research and advocacy Richard Robertson, who attended the Wednesday session, is asking Ontario’s Education Ministry to investigate the board’s chair who B’nai Brith feel “completely failed to enforce the TDSB’s own rules around decorum” and “neglected to intervene when speakers invoked antisemitic tropes, demonized Zionists, and trafficked in disinformation.””
and this quote. This is...really...something. You are so blinded that you can't see that you can EASILY swap those two names and have the exact same opinion if you are palestinian. I'm without speech on that one.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
And let’s not forget the carnage perpetrated by the West Bank on 10/07. They have to “pay” as well. A real peace loving country.
Israel sends tanks to the West Bank for the first time in 20 years. Here’s why that’s significant
The Israeli military this weekend deployed tanks to the occupied West Bank for the first time in two decades.
In the background of a Gaza ceasefire, Israel has steadily escalated an intense military operation in Palestinian cities in the West Bank, killing dozens and displacing tens of thousands of residents.
Daniel Levy, former advisor to the Israeli government, speaking today to the UN Security Council:
“A minute of silence for each of the Bibas children would be appropriate, as would a minute of silence for each of the more than 18,000 Palestinian children murdered in Israel's devastation of Gaza. That silence would extend to over 300 hours."
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The raid has alarmed not only Israeli activists but also Israelis in general. Critics warn it sets a dangerous precedent in a country whose prime minister calls it the “only democracy in the Middle East.” They argue that voices critical of Israel’s war in Gaza – and the staggering death toll it has caused – are increasingly being silenced through intimidation and legal action.
BREAKING: In a landslide vote, Harvard Law student body passes divestment referendum, overcoming administration attempts to prevent and delegitimize the vote.
Harvard Law students overwhelmingly vote for Justice for Palestine and divestment from Netanyahu’s regime.
This is historic. Now the question is whether Harvard will listen to its students or its donors.
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If it’s an Israeli attack in Gaza, then it’s not an “incident since the ceasefire went into effect,” it’s a “violation of the ceasefire” (and war crime).
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If it’s an Israeli attack in Gaza, then it’s not an “incident since the ceasefire went into effect,” it’s a “violation of the ceasefire” (and war crime).
Oh but we’re repeatedly told of the superiority of Israel and her desire for peace with all its peace agreements adhered to after truthful and honest negotiations. No atrocities committed, no rights violated, just a perfectly peaceful country minding it’s own business.
As Israel drops bombs on the occupied West Bank, some fear it will become a new Gaza
More than 260 people have been killed in Israeli airstrikes in the occupied West Bank since Oct. 7, 2023, a huge escalation from previous years, according to an Israeli rights group.
Once rare, Israel's use of airstrikes in the occupied West Bank has soared since Oct. 7, 2023, stoking fears that it is deploying the military tactics there that it used in the Gaza Strip, some 60 miles away.
“There wasn’t a time in the history of the occupation, not even during the Second Intifada, that the use of airstrikes had become so severe and deadly,” in the West Bank, Shai Parnes, spokesperson for the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem, told NBC News, referring to the Palestinian uprising in the early 2000s.
However, by B’Tselem’s count, since Oct. 7, 2023, the Israeli military has increasingly dropped bombs on the territory: at least 69 airstrikes in the West Bank killed 261 people, including 41 under the age of 19. At least 28 of those 261 people have been killed since Jan. 19, Parnes said.
The rise in airstrikes, according to a report published by B'Tselem on Wednesday, speaks to the increasingly destructive path that human rights groups say Israel has taken in the West Bank, with its operations accelerating since the Jan. 19 ceasefire in Gaza.
While B’Tselem does not have complete data for Israeli airstrikes launched in the West Bank in the years before the start of the current war, Parnes said that is mainly because they were uncommon, with data compiled by the human rights group finding that over the span of 18 years from 2005 to Oct. 7, 2023, a total of 14 people were killed in the territory in airstrike-related incidents.
Israeli security forces launched an ongoing offensive in the West Bank city of Jenin in January, two days after the latest ceasefire in Gaza. The Israeli military said the assault was aimed at stamping out militant groups in the Palestinian territory, and had led to a rise in deadly strikes and mass displacement.
In a statement sent to NBC News on Wednesday, the Israel Defense Forces said its offensive began after a “significant increase in terror attacks” in the West Bank, but it maintained that there had been “no change in the rules of engagement.”
The United Nations warned that Israel's weekslong raid has become "by far the single longest Israeli Forces' operation" in the West Bank, with a devastating toll that has included at least 69 Palestinians killed and more than 40,000 people displaced from their homes across targeted areas, including Jenin, Tulkarm, Nur Shams and Nablus.
The dozens killed in recent weeks add to a growing death toll in the West Bank, with at least 897 Palestinians killed, including 190 under the age of 19, since Oct. 7, 2023, according to a database run by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) — a dramatic rise from 253 Palestinians killed in the year before Oct. 7, 2023.
Most of the rising casualties in the West Bank have been attributed to settler violence and clashes with settlers and Israeli security forces.
Avi Melamed, a former Israeli intelligence official and negotiator, said that while he believed the realities of mass displacement were “very traumatic,” he felt there was “no comparison” between either the “intensity of the might Israel is using in the West Bank compared to Gaza, “nor in the seriousness of the threat” that militants in the West Bank pose compared to Hamas in Gaza.
Still, pointing to scenes of people fleeing their homes and buildings burnt out and destroyed in the West Bank, Parnes also said that rhetoric from Israeli lawmakers suggested a desire, at least on the part of some, to see the “Gazification” of the West Bank, with far-right Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich calling in January for for areas such as Jenin and Nablus to be made to "look like Jabalia," a city in northern Gaza largely reduced to rubble during the war.
Mustafa Barghouti, a veteran Palestinian political activist, said he shared Parnes’ concerns of Israeli forces using similar tactics deployed in Gaza, where more than 48,500 people have been killed, according to local health officials, and around 70% of the infrastructure has been destroyed, according to the United Nations.
“It’s a very dangerous strategy they are using,” he said.
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On this day in 2003, 23-year-old US peace activist Rachel Corrie was run over and killed by an Israeli bulldozer while standing in front of a Palestinian home with a family still inside, protesting and attempting to protect it from demolition by Israel.
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On this day in 2003, 23-year-old US peace activist Rachel Corrie was run over and killed by an Israeli bulldozer while standing in front of a Palestinian home with a family still inside, protesting and attempting to protect it from demolition by Israel.
But Israel is a peace loving nation. If only the Palestinians would honour the peace agreement(s).
Protest what, the right of the government to determine if a green card holder violated terms of the privilege given to them to live here? And others here on visas, they can easily be revoked.
If you have issue with how the US treats their guests protesting US national Security issues, go to Gaza and protest there. See how long that lasts.
again, "go to gaza and protest there" makes zero sense. There's something called abuse of power. Khalil hasn't been shown to have any ties to a terrorist organization, and no, supporting Palestinians is not the same as supporting or having ties to Hamas. I fail to see how it also hits the threshold of a national security threat.
You'd think those who have a history of being persecuted wouldn't be pro-persecution.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
It’s not persecution. Khalil is not a citizen and the law is not clear. Let him have his day in court. The rallies he organized prevented students from participating in their regular graduation ceremonies, a once in a lifetime activity, as well as damage to property. That is not legal behavior, no matter how it’s spun.
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Have the Palestinians ever taken any action to win control of their government?
Have the Palestinians ever acted responsibly as a sovereign nation? Were they ever a sovereign nation? Have they ever looked to peacefully exist?
These questions are always met here with anger and the evils from Netanyahu. Ultimate whataboutism. These are legitimate questions anyone wanting peace in the region would be interested in. Yet on this forum, they are always met with hatred and an unwillingness to have an honest discussion about peace. Eventually , I will stop wondering why.
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this *particular* battle started oct 7. to suggest the resolution to a decades long conflict (and illegal aggression/displacement/occupation) based on that is insanely absurd. You are rationalizing the murder of tens of thousands of palestinians because of a thousand israelis.
You only want peace if israel gets everything it wants. We want peace that benefits all peoples.
-EV 8/14/93
Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?
yes or no.
previous statements leave a strong impression.
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-EV 8/14/93
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Israel sends tanks to the West Bank for the first time in 20 years. Here’s why that’s significant
The Israeli military this weekend deployed tanks to the occupied West Bank for the first time in two decades.
In the background of a Gaza ceasefire, Israel has steadily escalated an intense military operation in Palestinian cities in the West Bank, killing dozens and displacing tens of thousands of residents.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/24/middleeast/israel-jenin-west-bank-explainer-intl/index.html
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“A minute of silence for each of the Bibas children would be appropriate, as would a minute of silence for each of the more than 18,000 Palestinian children murdered in Israel's devastation of Gaza. That silence would extend to over 300 hours."
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The raid has alarmed not only Israeli activists but also Israelis in general. Critics warn it sets a dangerous precedent in a country whose prime minister calls it the “only democracy in the Middle East.” They argue that voices critical of Israel’s war in Gaza – and the staggering death toll it has caused – are increasingly being silenced through intimidation and legal action.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/10/middleeast/israel-freedom-of-speech-crackdown-intl/index.html
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Harvard Law students overwhelmingly vote for Justice for Palestine and divestment from Netanyahu’s regime.
This is historic. Now the question is whether Harvard will listen to its students or its donors.
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As Israel drops bombs on the occupied West Bank, some fear it will become a new Gaza
More than 260 people have been killed in Israeli airstrikes in the occupied West Bank since Oct. 7, 2023, a huge escalation from previous years, according to an Israeli rights group.
Once rare, Israel's use of airstrikes in the occupied West Bank has soared since Oct. 7, 2023, stoking fears that it is deploying the military tactics there that it used in the Gaza Strip, some 60 miles away.
“There wasn’t a time in the history of the occupation, not even during the Second Intifada, that the use of airstrikes had become so severe and deadly,” in the West Bank, Shai Parnes, spokesperson for the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem, told NBC News, referring to the Palestinian uprising in the early 2000s.
However, by B’Tselem’s count, since Oct. 7, 2023, the Israeli military has increasingly dropped bombs on the territory: at least 69 airstrikes in the West Bank killed 261 people, including 41 under the age of 19. At least 28 of those 261 people have been killed since Jan. 19, Parnes said.
The rise in airstrikes, according to a report published by B'Tselem on Wednesday, speaks to the increasingly destructive path that human rights groups say Israel has taken in the West Bank, with its operations accelerating since the Jan. 19 ceasefire in Gaza.
While B’Tselem does not have complete data for Israeli airstrikes launched in the West Bank in the years before the start of the current war, Parnes said that is mainly because they were uncommon, with data compiled by the human rights group finding that over the span of 18 years from 2005 to Oct. 7, 2023, a total of 14 people were killed in the territory in airstrike-related incidents.
Israeli security forces launched an ongoing offensive in the West Bank city of Jenin in January, two days after the latest ceasefire in Gaza. The Israeli military said the assault was aimed at stamping out militant groups in the Palestinian territory, and had led to a rise in deadly strikes and mass displacement.
In a statement sent to NBC News on Wednesday, the Israel Defense Forces said its offensive began after a “significant increase in terror attacks” in the West Bank, but it maintained that there had been “no change in the rules of engagement.”
The United Nations warned that Israel's weekslong raid has become "by far the single longest Israeli Forces' operation" in the West Bank, with a devastating toll that has included at least 69 Palestinians killed and more than 40,000 people displaced from their homes across targeted areas, including Jenin, Tulkarm, Nur Shams and Nablus.
The dozens killed in recent weeks add to a growing death toll in the West Bank, with at least 897 Palestinians killed, including 190 under the age of 19, since Oct. 7, 2023, according to a database run by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) — a dramatic rise from 253 Palestinians killed in the year before Oct. 7, 2023.
Most of the rising casualties in the West Bank have been attributed to settler violence and clashes with settlers and Israeli security forces.
Avi Melamed, a former Israeli intelligence official and negotiator, said that while he believed the realities of mass displacement were “very traumatic,” he felt there was “no comparison” between either the “intensity of the might Israel is using in the West Bank compared to Gaza, “nor in the seriousness of the threat” that militants in the West Bank pose compared to Hamas in Gaza.
Still, pointing to scenes of people fleeing their homes and buildings burnt out and destroyed in the West Bank, Parnes also said that rhetoric from Israeli lawmakers suggested a desire, at least on the part of some, to see the “Gazification” of the West Bank, with far-right Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich calling in January for for areas such as Jenin and Nablus to be made to "look like Jabalia," a city in northern Gaza largely reduced to rubble during the war.
Mustafa Barghouti, a veteran Palestinian political activist, said he shared Parnes’ concerns of Israeli forces using similar tactics deployed in Gaza, where more than 48,500 people have been killed, according to local health officials, and around 70% of the infrastructure has been destroyed, according to the United Nations.
“It’s a very dangerous strategy they are using,” he said.
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https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/16/us/mahmoud-khalil-columbia-protests-free-speech/index.html
-EV 8/14/93
If you have issue with how the US treats their guests protesting US national Security issues, go to Gaza and protest there. See how long that lasts.
You'd think those who have a history of being persecuted wouldn't be pro-persecution.
-EV 8/14/93
donnie said he would do this and he got elected.