Eh. It’s all performative either way. Those standing and applauding don’t really give a shit about steel workers or some kid going to West Point.
How do you look a child with brain cancer in the eyes and not applaud him, even if it's theater? Do you think that kid comprehends politics? He just knows half the room didn't care to stand or clap for him...party of evil was the sitting party. That's the truth.
Of all the things listed you are right, no one gives a shit but man looking a small child cancer survivor in the eyes and not standing/applauding is fucking evil. Stone cold fucking evil.
What's worse?
Not clapping...
Or
Using him as a prop while simultaneously cutting the funds that are used to help find a cure for his disease?
Thank you all for the constructive feedback (mostly) 😄
The AI copy/paste didn't correct anything that was posted?🤔
🚨***AI Warning***🚨
1. The one reporter pressing her on Canada’s fentanyl being less than 1% and her answer was that it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people.
I don't know the intention of relaying it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. Was it that it was a ridiculous claim, was it that 4.8 was too high, too low?
AI says 9.752M potential deaths
2. The fentanyl calculation argument is stupid.
Comparison: Fentanyl kills more people annually (55,000–60,000) than guns (47,000–50,000), a gap of roughly 5,000–10,000 deaths. Fentanyl’s toll is concentrated in overdoses, while gun deaths split across intentional (homicide/suicide) and accidental causes.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s potential lethal units (16.3–27.6 billion doses) exceed bullet production (10–12 billion rounds) by 1.5–2.5 times in sheer numbers. However, bullets are discrete, single-use items, while fentanyl’s “doses” depend on distribution and purity—much seized fentanyl is diluted or never reaches users.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s per-unit lethality (1 dose = 1 potential death) is more efficient than bullets (1–3 shots = 1 death), but its impact requires ingestion and precise dosing, while bullets deliver immediate physical trauma. Fentanyl’s seized quantity alone could kill ~5 million, vs. ~50,000 for guns’ annual toll, highlighting fentanyl’s unrealized potential vs. guns’ realized use.
Key Takeaways
Deadliness: Fentanyl edges out guns in annual deaths (by ~10–20%), despite guns’ broader cultural presence.
Scale: Fentanyl’s potential lethality (billions of doses) dwarfs bullets produced, but its real impact is curtailed by distribution and intervention.
Efficiency: Fentanyl kills with one dose; guns need 1–3 hits, making fentanyl theoretically more “efficient” per unit, though less predictable in practice.
Guns and fentanyl represent distinct threats: guns as tools of intentional violence, fentanyl as a stealthy overdose killer. Their comparison hinges on realized harm (close) vs. theoretical destruction (fentanyl wins). Which is “worse” depends on whether you prioritize body count, intent, or untapped danger.
3. (Especially since) the US exported more drugs and guns to Canada than they exported to the US.
Drugs: No
Guns: Yes
Excuse me? I think you meant fentanyl? I know we were discussing fentanyl and the COOTWH administration’s press officer but I specifically stated “drugs” and it remains that her comment in full context is stupid, just like complaining about the northern border. Canada is not the problem. If anything, Canada has problems with the US.
Conclusion
The United States exports more drugs and guns overall to Canada than Canada does to the U.S. The U.S. floods Canada with illegal firearms (tens of thousands annually, driving 85–90% of crime guns), outweighing Canada’s small fentanyl exports (43 pounds seized vs. 10.8 pounds northward). In terms of societal impact—gun violence in Canada vs. overdose deaths in the U.S.—the U.S.’s gun exports have a far greater footprint than Canada’s drug contributions, making the U.S. the dominant exporter in this bilateral exchange. Data gaps (e.g., undetected amounts) limit precision, but the trend is clear: guns south-to-north dwarf drugs north-to-south.
Thank you all for the constructive feedback (mostly) 😄
The AI copy/paste didn't correct anything that was posted?🤔
🚨***AI Warning***🚨
1. The one reporter pressing her on Canada’s fentanyl being less than 1% and her answer was that it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people.
I don't know the intention of relaying it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. Was it that it was a ridiculous claim, was it that 4.8 was too high, too low?
AI says 9.752M potential deaths
2. The fentanyl calculation argument is stupid.
Comparison: Fentanyl kills more people annually (55,000–60,000) than guns (47,000–50,000), a gap of roughly 5,000–10,000 deaths. Fentanyl’s toll is concentrated in overdoses, while gun deaths split across intentional (homicide/suicide) and accidental causes.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s potential lethal units (16.3–27.6 billion doses) exceed bullet production (10–12 billion rounds) by 1.5–2.5 times in sheer numbers. However, bullets are discrete, single-use items, while fentanyl’s “doses” depend on distribution and purity—much seized fentanyl is diluted or never reaches users.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s per-unit lethality (1 dose = 1 potential death) is more efficient than bullets (1–3 shots = 1 death), but its impact requires ingestion and precise dosing, while bullets deliver immediate physical trauma. Fentanyl’s seized quantity alone could kill ~5 million, vs. ~50,000 for guns’ annual toll, highlighting fentanyl’s unrealized potential vs. guns’ realized use.
Key Takeaways
Deadliness: Fentanyl edges out guns in annual deaths (by ~10–20%), despite guns’ broader cultural presence.
Scale: Fentanyl’s potential lethality (billions of doses) dwarfs bullets produced, but its real impact is curtailed by distribution and intervention.
Efficiency: Fentanyl kills with one dose; guns need 1–3 hits, making fentanyl theoretically more “efficient” per unit, though less predictable in practice.
Guns and fentanyl represent distinct threats: guns as tools of intentional violence, fentanyl as a stealthy overdose killer. Their comparison hinges on realized harm (close) vs. theoretical destruction (fentanyl wins). Which is “worse” depends on whether you prioritize body count, intent, or untapped danger.
3. (Especially since) the US exported more drugs and guns to Canada than they exported to the US.
Drugs: No
Guns: Yes
Excuse me? I think you meant fentanyl? I know we were discussing fentanyl and the COOTWH administration’s press officer but I specifically stated “drugs” and it remains that her comment in full context is stupid, just like complaining about the northern border. Canada is not the problem. If anything, Canada has problems with the US.
Conclusion
The United States exports more drugs and guns overall to Canada than Canada does to the U.S. The U.S. floods Canada with illegal firearms (tens of thousands annually, driving 85–90% of crime guns), outweighing Canada’s small fentanyl exports (43 pounds seized vs. 10.8 pounds northward). In terms of societal impact—gun violence in Canada vs. overdose deaths in the U.S.—the U.S.’s gun exports have a far greater footprint than Canada’s drug contributions, making the U.S. the dominant exporter in this bilateral exchange. Data gaps (e.g., undetected amounts) limit precision, but the trend is clear: guns south-to-north dwarf drugs north-to-south.
No, excuse me. I see what happened . My previous inquiries regarding fentanyl brought it into the US/ Canada drug and guns export question automatically:
(My apologies, Get Right, I know I'm about to lose you here)
"To determine which country, the United States or Canada, exports more drugs and guns to the other, we’ll examine the available data on illicit drug trafficking (specifically fentanyl, given its prominence) and illegal firearms flows between the two nations, focusing on FY 2024 (October 2023–September 2024) where possible, as of March 5, 2025.
Drugs (Focus on Fentanyl)"
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2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
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2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
AI because Halifax likes it and I may have gained Spiritual's favor, but Get Right won't like past the fourth line:
Comparing all drug exports (specifically illicit drugs, as legal pharmaceutical trade isn’t typically framed as “exports” in this context) between the United States and Canada requires focusing on available data for trafficking of major illegal substances like fentanyl, methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin, and marijuana. Given the prominence of fentanyl in recent discourse and data availability, it will anchor the comparison, supplemented by other drugs where possible. This analysis uses FY 2024 (October 2023–September 2024) seizure data as a proxy for trafficking flows, supplemented by broader trends, as comprehensive undetected amounts are unquantifiable. All insights are current as of March 5, 2025.
Fentanyl
U.S. to Canada: The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) reported seizing 10.8 pounds of fentanyl entering Canada from the U.S. in calendar year 2024 (Forbes, 2025). This reflects a small but documented northward flow, likely tied to individual smuggling or small-scale operations rather than major cartels.
Canada to U.S.: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) seized 43 pounds of fentanyl at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP Drug Seizure Statistics). This is a tiny fraction (0.2%) of the 21,889 pounds seized nationwide, with 96.6% from Mexico (NPR, 2024).
Comparison: Canada exports more fentanyl to the U.S. by weight (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs), but both quantities are negligible compared to U.S.-Mexico flows (21,148 lbs). Per capita, 43 lbs across 330 million Americans is 0.059 mg/person, vs. 10.8 lbs across 40 million Canadians at 0.122 mg/person—neither close to the 2 mg lethal dose, but Canada’s per-capita export is slightly higher.
Methamphetamine
U.S. to Canada: CBSA seizure data for 2024 isn’t broken out by drug type beyond fentanyl, but historical trends (e.g., 2003 Canada-U.S. Border Drug Threat Assessment) suggest meth flows both ways, with some U.S.-sourced meth crossing north. In FY 2023, CBSA seized 1,093 lbs of meth total, with no specific U.S. attribution, though X posts suggest U.S. guns often accompany northward drug runs.
Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 3,295 lbs of methamphetamine at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP data), up from prior years, indicating a growing southward flow. This contrasts with 176,000 lbs seized at the southwest border, showing Canada’s role is minor (1.8% of total).
Comparison: Canada exports far more meth to the U.S. (3,295 lbs vs. an unknown but likely smaller U.S.-to-Canada amount). The U.S.’s domestic meth production (DEA, 2024) suggests it’s less reliant on Canadian supply, while Canada may import some from U.S. sources.
Cocaine
U.S. to Canada: CBSA doesn’t specify U.S.-sourced cocaine seizures for 2024, but historical data indicates bidirectional flows, with U.S. ports occasionally routing South American cocaine north. Total CBSA cocaine seizures were 1,433 lbs in FY 2023, with no clear U.S. breakdown.
Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 399 lbs of cocaine at the northern border in FY 2024, vs. 26,822 lbs at the southwest border (CBP). Canada isn’t a major cocaine producer, so this likely reflects transshipment or local distribution south.
Comparison: Likely more cocaine flows from the U.S. to Canada, given the U.S.’s role as a primary entry point from South America (DEA, 2024), though seizure data is inconclusive. Canada’s southward export (399 lbs) is modest.
Heroin
U.S. to Canada: Minimal data exists for 2024, but heroin trafficking northward is rare, as Canada’s supply typically comes from Asia or domestic diversion (RCMP, 2023). CBSA seizures are small and not U.S.-specific.
Canada to U.S.: CBP seized just 14 lbs of heroin at the northern border in FY 2024, vs. 2,328 lbs from Mexico (CBP). Canada isn’t a significant heroin source.
Comparison: Canada exports slightly more heroin to the U.S. (14 lbs vs. near-zero northward), but volumes are trivial on both sides.
Marijuana
U.S. to Canada: Post-2018 legalization in Canada, U.S.-sourced marijuana trafficking has dropped. CBSA seized 4,621 lbs in FY 2023, some possibly from U.S. states with legal markets (e.g., Washington), but 2024 data isn’t detailed.
Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 10,233 lbs of marijuana at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP), reflecting persistent southward smuggling despite U.S. legalization in many states. This is dwarfed by 74,837 lbs from Mexico.
Comparison: Canada exports significantly more marijuana to the U.S. (10,233 lbs vs. an estimated lower U.S.-to-Canada amount), driven by price differences and demand for Canadian strains.
Total Drug Exports (Seizure-Based Estimate)
U.S. to Canada: Combining known 2024 seizures (10.8 lbs fentanyl) with partial prior-year data (e.g., 1,093 lbs meth, 1,433 lbs cocaine, 4,621 lbs marijuana in FY 2023), the U.S. likely exports at least 7,000–10,000 lbs of illicit drugs to Canada annually, assuming unreported 2024 figures align with trends. This is a rough minimum, as undetected amounts could push it higher.
Canada to U.S.: FY 2024 CBP northern border seizures total 13,984 lbs (43 lbs fentanyl, 3,295 lbs meth, 399 lbs cocaine, 14 lbs heroin, 10,233 lbs marijuana), a firm baseline. Undetected flows might double or triple this, but no precise estimate exists.
Comparison: Canada exports more drugs to the U.S. by seizure weight (13,984 lbs vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs), though the U.S.’s figures are less certain due to incomplete 2024 CBSA data. Marijuana dominates Canada’s exports, while U.S. flows likely include more cocaine and meth.
Broader Context
Directionality: Canada’s drug exports to the U.S. are higher in raw volume (13,984 lbs seized vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs estimated), driven by marijuana and meth. The U.S., as a global drug hub, likely sends more cocaine north, but fentanyl flows are surprisingly balanced (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs).
Significance: Both pale beside U.S.-Mexico trafficking (e.g., 245,000+ lbs total seizures in FY 2024). Canada-to-U.S. drug exports are ~5% of southern border totals, while U.S.-to-Canada flows are even less significant relative to Canada’s domestic supply (e.g., British Columbia fentanyl production).
Intent and Impact: U.S. exports fuel some Canadian crime (e.g., guns paired with drugs), while Canada’s southward flows contribute minimally to U.S. overdoses (0.2% of fentanyl seizures).
Conclusion
Canada exports more illicit drugs to the United States than the U.S. does to Canada, based on seizure data (13,984 lbs vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs estimated for FY 2024). Marijuana and methamphetamine lead Canada’s exports, while the U.S. likely sends more cocaine north, with fentanyl showing a slight Canadian edge (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs). Both flows are dwarfed by Mexico’s role, and undetected amounts could shift the balance, but current evidence points to Canada as the net drug exporter in this bilateral comparison. Data gaps (e.g., CBSA’s 2024 totals) limit precision, but the trend holds: Canada’s drug exports to the U.S. exceed the reverse in volume and diversity.
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1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Thank you all for the constructive feedback (mostly) 😄
The AI copy/paste didn't correct anything that was posted?🤔
🚨***AI Warning***🚨
1. The one reporter pressing her on Canada’s fentanyl being less than 1% and her answer was that it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people.
I don't know the intention of relaying it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. Was it that it was a ridiculous claim, was it that 4.8 was too high, too low?
AI says 9.752M potential deaths
2. The fentanyl calculation argument is stupid.
Comparison: Fentanyl kills more people annually (55,000–60,000) than guns (47,000–50,000), a gap of roughly 5,000–10,000 deaths. Fentanyl’s toll is concentrated in overdoses, while gun deaths split across intentional (homicide/suicide) and accidental causes.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s potential lethal units (16.3–27.6 billion doses) exceed bullet production (10–12 billion rounds) by 1.5–2.5 times in sheer numbers. However, bullets are discrete, single-use items, while fentanyl’s “doses” depend on distribution and purity—much seized fentanyl is diluted or never reaches users.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s per-unit lethality (1 dose = 1 potential death) is more efficient than bullets (1–3 shots = 1 death), but its impact requires ingestion and precise dosing, while bullets deliver immediate physical trauma. Fentanyl’s seized quantity alone could kill ~5 million, vs. ~50,000 for guns’ annual toll, highlighting fentanyl’s unrealized potential vs. guns’ realized use.
Key Takeaways
Deadliness: Fentanyl edges out guns in annual deaths (by ~10–20%), despite guns’ broader cultural presence.
Scale: Fentanyl’s potential lethality (billions of doses) dwarfs bullets produced, but its real impact is curtailed by distribution and intervention.
Efficiency: Fentanyl kills with one dose; guns need 1–3 hits, making fentanyl theoretically more “efficient” per unit, though less predictable in practice.
Guns and fentanyl represent distinct threats: guns as tools of intentional violence, fentanyl as a stealthy overdose killer. Their comparison hinges on realized harm (close) vs. theoretical destruction (fentanyl wins). Which is “worse” depends on whether you prioritize body count, intent, or untapped danger.
3. (Especially since) the US exported more drugs and guns to Canada than they exported to the US.
Drugs: No
Guns: Yes
Excuse me? I think you meant fentanyl? I know we were discussing fentanyl and the COOTWH administration’s press officer but I specifically stated “drugs” and it remains that her comment in full context is stupid, just like complaining about the northern border. Canada is not the problem. If anything, Canada has problems with the US.
Conclusion
The United States exports more drugs and guns overall to Canada than Canada does to the U.S. The U.S. floods Canada with illegal firearms (tens of thousands annually, driving 85–90% of crime guns), outweighing Canada’s small fentanyl exports (43 pounds seized vs. 10.8 pounds northward). In terms of societal impact—gun violence in Canada vs. overdose deaths in the U.S.—the U.S.’s gun exports have a far greater footprint than Canada’s drug contributions, making the U.S. the dominant exporter in this bilateral exchange. Data gaps (e.g., undetected amounts) limit precision, but the trend is clear: guns south-to-north dwarf drugs north-to-south.
No, excuse me. I see what happened . My previous inquiries regarding fentanyl brought it into the US/ Canada drug and guns export question automatically:
(My apologies, Get Right, I know I'm about to lose you here)
"To determine which country, the United States or Canada, exports more drugs and guns to the other, we’ll examine the available data on illicit drug trafficking (specifically fentanyl, given its prominence) and illegal firearms flows between the two nations, focusing on FY 2024 (October 2023–September 2024) where possible, as of March 5, 2025.
Drugs (Focus on Fentanyl)"
So what you’re saying is, AI is unreliable unless both parties engaged in the debate saw the question posed to AI? What were your questions posed to AI in the last 10-20 answers you’ve posted? We have a general idea of what might have been asked but not the specific question as you posed it. Do you believe that’s an issue? Nuance is not AI’s strength, yet.
AI because Halifax likes it and I may have gained Spiritual's favor, but Get Right won't like past the fourth line:
Comparing all drug exports (specifically illicit drugs, as legal pharmaceutical trade isn’t typically framed as “exports” in this context) between the United States and Canada requires focusing on available data for trafficking of major illegal substances like fentanyl, methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin, and marijuana. Given the prominence of fentanyl in recent discourse and data availability, it will anchor the comparison, supplemented by other drugs where possible. This analysis uses FY 2024 (October 2023–September 2024) seizure data as a proxy for trafficking flows, supplemented by broader trends, as comprehensive undetected amounts are unquantifiable. All insights are current as of March 5, 2025.
Fentanyl
U.S. to Canada: The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) reported seizing 10.8 pounds of fentanyl entering Canada from the U.S. in calendar year 2024 (Forbes, 2025). This reflects a small but documented northward flow, likely tied to individual smuggling or small-scale operations rather than major cartels.
Canada to U.S.: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) seized 43 pounds of fentanyl at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP Drug Seizure Statistics). This is a tiny fraction (0.2%) of the 21,889 pounds seized nationwide, with 96.6% from Mexico (NPR, 2024).
Comparison: Canada exports more fentanyl to the U.S. by weight (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs), but both quantities are negligible compared to U.S.-Mexico flows (21,148 lbs). Per capita, 43 lbs across 330 million Americans is 0.059 mg/person, vs. 10.8 lbs across 40 million Canadians at 0.122 mg/person—neither close to the 2 mg lethal dose, but Canada’s per-capita export is slightly higher.
Methamphetamine
U.S. to Canada: CBSA seizure data for 2024 isn’t broken out by drug type beyond fentanyl, but historical trends (e.g., 2003 Canada-U.S. Border Drug Threat Assessment) suggest meth flows both ways, with some U.S.-sourced meth crossing north. In FY 2023, CBSA seized 1,093 lbs of meth total, with no specific U.S. attribution, though X posts suggest U.S. guns often accompany northward drug runs.
Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 3,295 lbs of methamphetamine at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP data), up from prior years, indicating a growing southward flow. This contrasts with 176,000 lbs seized at the southwest border, showing Canada’s role is minor (1.8% of total).
Comparison: Canada exports far more meth to the U.S. (3,295 lbs vs. an unknown but likely smaller U.S.-to-Canada amount). The U.S.’s domestic meth production (DEA, 2024) suggests it’s less reliant on Canadian supply, while Canada may import some from U.S. sources.
Cocaine
U.S. to Canada: CBSA doesn’t specify U.S.-sourced cocaine seizures for 2024, but historical data indicates bidirectional flows, with U.S. ports occasionally routing South American cocaine north. Total CBSA cocaine seizures were 1,433 lbs in FY 2023, with no clear U.S. breakdown.
Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 399 lbs of cocaine at the northern border in FY 2024, vs. 26,822 lbs at the southwest border (CBP). Canada isn’t a major cocaine producer, so this likely reflects transshipment or local distribution south.
Comparison: Likely more cocaine flows from the U.S. to Canada, given the U.S.’s role as a primary entry point from South America (DEA, 2024), though seizure data is inconclusive. Canada’s southward export (399 lbs) is modest.
Heroin
U.S. to Canada: Minimal data exists for 2024, but heroin trafficking northward is rare, as Canada’s supply typically comes from Asia or domestic diversion (RCMP, 2023). CBSA seizures are small and not U.S.-specific.
Canada to U.S.: CBP seized just 14 lbs of heroin at the northern border in FY 2024, vs. 2,328 lbs from Mexico (CBP). Canada isn’t a significant heroin source.
Comparison: Canada exports slightly more heroin to the U.S. (14 lbs vs. near-zero northward), but volumes are trivial on both sides.
Marijuana
U.S. to Canada: Post-2018 legalization in Canada, U.S.-sourced marijuana trafficking has dropped. CBSA seized 4,621 lbs in FY 2023, some possibly from U.S. states with legal markets (e.g., Washington), but 2024 data isn’t detailed.
Canada to U.S.: CBP seized 10,233 lbs of marijuana at the northern border in FY 2024 (CBP), reflecting persistent southward smuggling despite U.S. legalization in many states. This is dwarfed by 74,837 lbs from Mexico.
Comparison: Canada exports significantly more marijuana to the U.S. (10,233 lbs vs. an estimated lower U.S.-to-Canada amount), driven by price differences and demand for Canadian strains.
Total Drug Exports (Seizure-Based Estimate)
U.S. to Canada: Combining known 2024 seizures (10.8 lbs fentanyl) with partial prior-year data (e.g., 1,093 lbs meth, 1,433 lbs cocaine, 4,621 lbs marijuana in FY 2023), the U.S. likely exports at least 7,000–10,000 lbs of illicit drugs to Canada annually, assuming unreported 2024 figures align with trends. This is a rough minimum, as undetected amounts could push it higher.
Canada to U.S.: FY 2024 CBP northern border seizures total 13,984 lbs (43 lbs fentanyl, 3,295 lbs meth, 399 lbs cocaine, 14 lbs heroin, 10,233 lbs marijuana), a firm baseline. Undetected flows might double or triple this, but no precise estimate exists.
Comparison: Canada exports more drugs to the U.S. by seizure weight (13,984 lbs vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs), though the U.S.’s figures are less certain due to incomplete 2024 CBSA data. Marijuana dominates Canada’s exports, while U.S. flows likely include more cocaine and meth.
Broader Context
Directionality: Canada’s drug exports to the U.S. are higher in raw volume (13,984 lbs seized vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs estimated), driven by marijuana and meth. The U.S., as a global drug hub, likely sends more cocaine north, but fentanyl flows are surprisingly balanced (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs).
Significance: Both pale beside U.S.-Mexico trafficking (e.g., 245,000+ lbs total seizures in FY 2024). Canada-to-U.S. drug exports are ~5% of southern border totals, while U.S.-to-Canada flows are even less significant relative to Canada’s domestic supply (e.g., British Columbia fentanyl production).
Intent and Impact: U.S. exports fuel some Canadian crime (e.g., guns paired with drugs), while Canada’s southward flows contribute minimally to U.S. overdoses (0.2% of fentanyl seizures).
Conclusion
Canada exports more illicit drugs to the United States than the U.S. does to Canada, based on seizure data (13,984 lbs vs. 7,000–10,000 lbs estimated for FY 2024). Marijuana and methamphetamine lead Canada’s exports, while the U.S. likely sends more cocaine north, with fentanyl showing a slight Canadian edge (43 lbs vs. 10.8 lbs). Both flows are dwarfed by Mexico’s role, and undetected amounts could shift the balance, but current evidence points to Canada as the net drug exporter in this bilateral comparison. Data gaps (e.g., CBSA’s 2024 totals) limit precision, but the trend holds: Canada’s drug exports to the U.S. exceed the reverse in volume and diversity.
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I can't decide weather this thread is about a felon, a drug make popular poor economic conditions and hopelessness, or writing Haiku. I was hoping to see a parade. In cologne, Germany.
I can't decide weather this thread is about a felon, a drug make popular poor economic conditions and hopelessness, or writing Haiku. I was hoping to see a parade. In cologne, Germany.
I was gone for a week and now every page is littered with AI nonsense that nobody's gonna read.
I can't decide weather this thread is about a felon, a drug make popular poor economic conditions and hopelessness, or writing Haiku. I was hoping to see a parade. In cologne, Germany.
I was gone for a week and now every page is littered with AI nonsense that nobody's gonna read.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Newhouse: I have never, ever seen a member of congress escorted from the floor
McGovern: Well, you know what's never happened in my career, a president of the United States coming before a joint session of congress and insulting members by name, individually, shouting slurs at people.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Last fiscal year (2024, running from October 2023 to September 2024), U.S. Customs and Border Protection seized 43 pounds of fentanyl at the U.S.-Canada border. Fentanyl is extremely potent, with a lethal dose estimated at around 2 milligrams for an average adult. To calculate the potential number of deaths:
Dividing by 2 milligrams per lethal dose: 19,504,000 mg ÷ 2 mg = 9,752,000 potential deaths.
Thus, the 43 pounds of fentanyl seized from Canada last fiscal year could theoretically kill approximately 9.75 million people, assuming each lethal dose is 2 milligrams and all of it reached users in fatal amounts. This figure aligns with claims circulating in public discourse, though real-world outcomes depend on factors like distribution, purity, and intervention efforts. For context, this is a tiny fraction of the 21,889 pounds seized nationwide, with 96.6% coming from Mexico.
Now ask it to determine the total number of deaths due to fentanyl, regardless of origin or border crossed, and then give the total number of pounds of fentanyl entering or produced in the US and do the maths.
Can you then ask it how many bullets the US produces and how many shots it takes on average to kill a person?
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Annual Bullet Production in the United States
Estimating the exact number of bullets (small arms ammunition) produced in the U.S. each year is tricky because comprehensive, up-to-date public data from manufacturers is limited, and production figures often blend commercial and military outputs. However, based on available industry insights and historical trends, we can piece together a reasonable estimate as of March 5, 2025.
Industry Estimates: The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), which tracks firearms and ammunition trends, reported that U.S. manufacturers produced approximately 8.7 billion rounds of ammunition in 2020, a figure cited widely during the pandemic-driven ammo surge. This includes all calibers (handgun, rifle, shotgun, etc.) for civilian, law enforcement, and some military use. Production capacity has since expanded to meet demand, with companies like Vista Outdoor (owner of Federal, CCI, and Speer) and Olin Corporation (Winchester) ramping up output.
Military Production: The U.S. Army’s Lake City Army Ammunition Plant, a key supplier of military small arms ammo (e.g., 5.56mm, 7.62mm), has a capacity of about 1.2 to 1.5 billion rounds annually, per a 2023 Army statement. During wartime or high demand (like FY 2024, with 21,889 pounds of fentanyl seized indicating heightened border security), this can scale up. Total military production, including other facilities, likely adds 2–3 billion rounds yearly, separate from or overlapping with commercial figures.
Current Trends: Ammo demand spiked in 2020–2021 due to civil unrest, elections, and new gun ownership (9 million new owners in 2020 alone, per NSSF). While it’s cooled slightly, 2024 production likely exceeds 2020’s 8.7 billion due to sustained civilian demand and export growth (e.g., Ukraine aid). A 2013 WIRED estimate of 10 billion rounds annually is often cited, and with capacity increases, experts like John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org suggest 10–12 billion rounds as plausible for 2024.
Best Estimate: Accounting for commercial (8–10 billion) and military (2–3 billion) production, the U.S. likely produces 10–12 billion bullets annually as of 2025. This aligns with the NSSF’s 2020 baseline, adjusted for growth and anecdotal reports from ammo retailers facing shortages into 2024.
Average Number of Shots to Kill a Person
The number of shots required to kill a person varies widely depending on context—combat, crime, or medical outcomes—and is influenced by factors like bullet caliber, shot placement, distance, and victim resilience. There’s no universal “average,” but we can derive estimates from military and civilian data.
Military Context:
Vietnam War: Historical data suggests U.S. forces expended 50,000 rounds of M-16 ammo (5.56mm) per enemy killed, per a 1970s Department of Defense analysis. This includes suppressive fire, training, and missed shots, not direct hits. Actual hits-to-kill likely ranged from 1–3 shots, per wound ballistics studies.
Iraq/Afghanistan: Researcher John Pike estimated 250,000 small-caliber rounds per insurgent killed, including training and combat. In direct engagements, studies like the 2006 Joint Special Operations University report suggest 2–5 hits to incapacitate, with 1–3 fatal if vital areas (head, chest) are struck.
Wound Ballistics: Per Dr. Martin Fackler’s research, 80% of body shots are non-fatal; a single well-placed rifle round (e.g., 5.56mm) to the heart or brain can kill instantly, while multiple peripheral hits may not.
Civilian/Criminal Context:
Boston Study (2018): A JAMA Network Open study of 2010–2014 shootings found that caliber size mattered—larger rounds (.40, .45) increased lethality vs. 9mm. Most shootings involved 1–2 shots, with a single hit fatal in 20–40% of cases, depending on placement (e.g., head shots: 90% fatal; torso: 50%).
FBI Data: In police shootings, officers fire an average of 2–5 rounds per incident, with 1–2 hits often sufficient to kill if center-mass or headshots, per 2022 FBI stats. Criminal shootings show similar patterns, though accuracy is lower.
Anecdotal Cases: Survivors like Kenny Vaughan (shot 20 times, 1995) or Sean Guzman (13 shots, 2006) highlight variability—most shots missed vital organs. Conversely, a single .22 caliber to the brain can kill instantly.
General Lethality: The CDC’s 2022 data shows 48,204 firearm deaths from 19,651 homicides and 27,032 suicides. Homicides often involve 1–3 shots (per autopsy studies), with a 20–25% fatality rate per shooting incident (Everytown Research). Suicides are near-100% fatal with one headshot.
Best Estimate: In direct engagements (combat or crime), it takes 1–3 shots on average to kill a person, assuming at least one hits a vital area (head, heart, major arteries). In broader military contexts, including misses and suppressive fire, the ratio balloons to tens or hundreds of thousands of rounds per death. For a practical average across all scenarios:
Direct Hits: 1–3 shots, with 1 often enough if perfectly placed.
Real-World Incidents: 2–5 shots fired, 1–2 hitting, based on police and criminal data.
Summary
U.S. Bullet Production: 10–12 billion rounds annually.
Shots to Kill: 1–3 direct hits on average in controlled scenarios; vastly more when factoring in combat inefficiencies.
These figures reflect both the scale of U.S. ammo output and the messy reality of firearm lethality, where precision trumps volume.
So enough to kill 4-12 billion people. This is how stupid the fentanyl calculation argument is.
There's enough salt in the ocean to kill about 6.2 x10^17 people with salt poisoning. Close all the harbors!
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I can't decide weather this thread is about a felon, a drug make popular poor economic conditions and hopelessness, or writing Haiku. I was hoping to see a parade. In cologne, Germany.
Hypocrisy at its finest led by spineless Johnson all to appease their King by the 3rd year of this administration he will be proclaimed the 1st King of these United States! Just putting it out there in case it does happen 😂😂
Thank you all for the constructive feedback (mostly) 😄
The AI copy/paste didn't correct anything that was posted?🤔
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1. The one reporter pressing her on Canada’s fentanyl being less than 1% and her answer was that it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people.
I don't know the intention of relaying it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. Was it that it was a ridiculous claim, was it that 4.8 was too high, too low?
AI says 9.752M potential deaths
2. The fentanyl calculation argument is stupid.
Comparison: Fentanyl kills more people annually (55,000–60,000) than guns (47,000–50,000), a gap of roughly 5,000–10,000 deaths. Fentanyl’s toll is concentrated in overdoses, while gun deaths split across intentional (homicide/suicide) and accidental causes.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s potential lethal units (16.3–27.6 billion doses) exceed bullet production (10–12 billion rounds) by 1.5–2.5 times in sheer numbers. However, bullets are discrete, single-use items, while fentanyl’s “doses” depend on distribution and purity—much seized fentanyl is diluted or never reaches users.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s per-unit lethality (1 dose = 1 potential death) is more efficient than bullets (1–3 shots = 1 death), but its impact requires ingestion and precise dosing, while bullets deliver immediate physical trauma. Fentanyl’s seized quantity alone could kill ~5 million, vs. ~50,000 for guns’ annual toll, highlighting fentanyl’s unrealized potential vs. guns’ realized use.
Key Takeaways
Deadliness: Fentanyl edges out guns in annual deaths (by ~10–20%), despite guns’ broader cultural presence.
Scale: Fentanyl’s potential lethality (billions of doses) dwarfs bullets produced, but its real impact is curtailed by distribution and intervention.
Efficiency: Fentanyl kills with one dose; guns need 1–3 hits, making fentanyl theoretically more “efficient” per unit, though less predictable in practice.
Guns and fentanyl represent distinct threats: guns as tools of intentional violence, fentanyl as a stealthy overdose killer. Their comparison hinges on realized harm (close) vs. theoretical destruction (fentanyl wins). Which is “worse” depends on whether you prioritize body count, intent, or untapped danger.
3. (Especially since) the US exported more drugs and guns to Canada than they exported to the US.
Drugs: No
Guns: Yes
Excuse me? I think you meant fentanyl? I know we were discussing fentanyl and the COOTWH administration’s press officer but I specifically stated “drugs” and it remains that her comment in full context is stupid, just like complaining about the northern border. Canada is not the problem. If anything, Canada has problems with the US.
Conclusion
The United States exports more drugs and guns overall to Canada than Canada does to the U.S. The U.S. floods Canada with illegal firearms (tens of thousands annually, driving 85–90% of crime guns), outweighing Canada’s small fentanyl exports (43 pounds seized vs. 10.8 pounds northward). In terms of societal impact—gun violence in Canada vs. overdose deaths in the U.S.—the U.S.’s gun exports have a far greater footprint than Canada’s drug contributions, making the U.S. the dominant exporter in this bilateral exchange. Data gaps (e.g., undetected amounts) limit precision, but the trend is clear: guns south-to-north dwarf drugs north-to-south.
No, excuse me. I see what happened . My previous inquiries regarding fentanyl brought it into the US/ Canada drug and guns export question automatically:
(My apologies, Get Right, I know I'm about to lose you here)
"To determine which country, the United States or Canada, exports more drugs and guns to the other, we’ll examine the available data on illicit drug trafficking (specifically fentanyl, given its prominence) and illegal firearms flows between the two nations, focusing on FY 2024 (October 2023–September 2024) where possible, as of March 5, 2025.
Drugs (Focus on Fentanyl)"
So what you’re saying is, AI is unreliable unless both parties engaged in the debate saw the question posed to AI? What were your questions posed to AI in the last 10-20 answers you’ve posted? We have a general idea of what might have been asked but not the specific question as you posed it. Do you believe that’s an issue? Nuance is not AI’s strength, yet.
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I understand what you're saying about the importance of posting the questions I typed, in addition to the answers that it provided, that I copied and pasted. My intentions are in good faith and I was looking for answers. I can understand if you think I'm trying to skew the question to get a specific answer, but that is not my intention. I also would like to think of this as more of a discussion than a debate. If AI proves the point I attempted to make, that's okay. If it disproves the point I attempted to make, that's okay.
Hawk123 posted: The one reporter pressing her on Canada’s fentanyl being less than 1% and her answer was that it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. Which led to:
Question 1: Last fiscal year alone there was enough fentanyl seized from Canada to kill how many people?
Hailfax posted: Now ask it to determine the total number of deaths due to fentanyl, regardless of origin or border crossed, and then give the total number of pounds of fentanyl entering or produced in the US and do the maths.
Which led to:
Question 2: Determine the total number of deaths due to fentanyl, regardless of origin or border crossed, and then give the total number of pounds of fentanyl entering or produced in the US.
Hawk123 posted: Can you then ask it how many bullets the US produces and how many shots it takes on average to kill a person? Which led to:
Question 3:
How many bullets does the US produce and how many shots it takes on average to kill a person?
Hawk123 responded: So enough to kill 4-12 billion people. This is how stupid the fentanyl calculation argument is.
Which led to:
Question 4 (I see it's not an actual question now):
Guns vs fentanyl comparisons
Halifax posted: Especially since the US exported more drugs and guns to Canada than they exported to the US
Which led to:
Question 5:
What country exports more drugs and guns to the other between the United States and Canada?
Spiritual Chaos posted: Because if you ask it what album Peter LeMarc released in 1994, it will give you a title of an album that doesn’t exist. And Peter LeMarc didn’t release an album in 1994. Which led to:
Question 6: What album did Peter LeMarc release in 1994?
Halifax posted: I know we were discussing fentanyl and the COOTWH administration’s press officer but I specifically stated “drugs” and it remains that her comment in full context is stupid, just like complaining about the northern border. Canada is not the problem. If anything, Canada has problems with the US. Which led to:
Question 7:
Compare all drug exports between United States and Canada
All answers are earlier posted in the thread.
Thanks for your time!
1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
To compare guns and fentanyl in the U.S., I’ll focus on key metrics based on your prior questions: deaths caused, quantities involved (bullets vs. pounds of fentanyl), and their potential lethality, using the latest FY 2024 data where possible (October 2023–September 2024, adjusted to March 5, 2025 context). This builds on the figures already calculated—fentanyl deaths and pounds, bullet production, and shots-to-kill—while framing them side by side for clarity.
1. Deaths Caused
Fentanyl: Approximately 55,000–60,000 deaths in FY 2024, based on provisional CDC data showing a decline to 57,997 synthetic opioid deaths (mostly fentanyl) for the 12 months ending August 2024, adjusted for fiscal overlap. This reflects overdoses from all sources, regardless of origin.
Guns: For FY 2024, exact figures are pending, but calendar year 2022 (CDC) provides a baseline: 48,204 firearm deaths, split into 19,651 homicides, 27,032 suicides, and 1,521 unintentional/legal intervention deaths. Provisional 2023 data shows a slight rise (e.g., 20,958 homicides per Gun Violence Archive), but 2024 trends suggest stabilization or a minor drop (e.g., 10% homicide decline in some cities, per Axios). Estimating FY 2024 at 47,000–50,000 deaths is reasonable, pending final data.
Comparison: Fentanyl kills more people annually (55,000–60,000) than guns (47,000–50,000), a gap of roughly 5,000–10,000 deaths. Fentanyl’s toll is concentrated in overdoses, while gun deaths split across intentional (homicide/suicide) and accidental causes.
2. Quantities Involved
Fentanyl: Total entering/produced in the U.S. in FY 2024 is 71,889–121,889 pounds, including 21,889 pounds seized (CBP) and an estimated 50,000–100,000 pounds undetected. Each pound (453,590 mg) could theoretically yield 226,795 lethal doses (at 2 mg each), so 71,889 pounds = ~16.3 billion doses, and 121,889 pounds = ~27.6 billion doses.
Bullets: U.S. production is 10–12 billion rounds annually, covering civilian and military small arms ammo (NSSF, Lake City estimates). This excludes imports (minor) and stockpiles, focusing on new output.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s potential lethal units (16.3–27.6 billion doses) exceed bullet production (10–12 billion rounds) by 1.5–2.5 times in sheer numbers. However, bullets are discrete, single-use items, while fentanyl’s “doses” depend on distribution and purity—much seized fentanyl is diluted or never reaches users.
3. Lethality Potential
Fentanyl per Unit: A 2 mg dose is lethal to an average adult (DEA estimate), though overdoses often involve higher amounts (e.g., 5–10 mg) due to tolerance or mixing. The 21,889 pounds seized in FY 2024 could kill ~4.97 million people if perfectly distributed (21,889 × 226,795 doses), far exceeding actual deaths (55,000–60,000), showing most doesn’t reach fatal circulation.
Bullets per Unit: It takes 1–3 shots to kill in direct hits (military/civilian data), with 1 often sufficient for vital areas (e.g., headshot: 90% fatal). The 10–12 billion rounds produced could theoretically kill 3.3–12 billion people if every shot hit fatally, but real-world accuracy (e.g., 20–25% fatality per shooting incident) limits this to the 47,000–50,000 actual deaths.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s per-unit lethality (1 dose = 1 potential death) is more efficient than bullets (1–3 shots = 1 death), but its impact requires ingestion and precise dosing, while bullets deliver immediate physical trauma. Fentanyl’s seized quantity alone could kill ~5 million, vs. ~50,000 for guns’ annual toll, highlighting fentanyl’s unrealized potential vs. guns’ realized use.
4. Broader Context
Availability: Guns are legal, with ~400 million in civilian hands (NSSF 2023 estimate), and ammo production (10–12 billion rounds) supports widespread use. Fentanyl is illicit, with 71,889–121,889 pounds smuggled or produced illegally, mostly via Mexico (96.6% of seizures).
Intent: Gun deaths include deliberate acts (homicides: ~20,000; suicides: ~27,000), while fentanyl deaths are largely unintentional overdoses (55,000–60,000), though some involve reckless distribution (e.g., dealers lacing drugs).
Societal Reach: Guns kill across demographics, with peaks in urban violence (homicides) and rural suicides. Fentanyl hits drug users hardest, with 70% of 2023 overdose deaths involving synthetic opioids (CDC), often polydrug cases.
Head-to-Head Summary
Metric
Fentanyl
Guns
Deaths (FY 2024)
55,000–60,000
47,000–50,000
Quantity
71,889–121,889 lbs
10–12 billion rounds
Lethal Units
16.3–27.6 billion doses
3.3–12 billion kills (max)
Shots/Doses to Kill
1 dose (~2 mg)
1–3 shots
Actual vs. Potential
55k–60k vs. ~5M (seized)
47k–50k vs. 3.3B–12B
Key Takeaways
Deadliness: Fentanyl edges out guns in annual deaths (by ~10–20%), despite guns’ broader cultural presence.
Scale: Fentanyl’s potential lethality (billions of doses) dwarfs bullets produced, but its real impact is curtailed by distribution and intervention.
Efficiency: Fentanyl kills with one dose; guns need 1–3 hits, making fentanyl theoretically more “efficient” per unit, though less predictable in practice.
Guns and fentanyl represent distinct threats: guns as tools of intentional violence, fentanyl as a stealthy overdose killer. Their comparison hinges on realized harm (close) vs. theoretical destruction (fentanyl wins). Which is “worse” depends on whether you prioritize body count, intent, or untapped danger.
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It's okay. 😄 Tbf, I think the wording was "like" an idiot, but not directly [you are] an idiot 🤣. Either way, all good on my end. ✌️
1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Thank you all for the constructive feedback (mostly) 😄
The AI copy/paste didn't correct anything that was posted?🤔
🚨***AI Warning***🚨
1. The one reporter pressing her on Canada’s fentanyl being less than 1% and her answer was that it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people.
I don't know the intention of relaying it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. Was it that it was a ridiculous claim, was it that 4.8 was too high, too low?
AI says 9.752M potential deaths
2. The fentanyl calculation argument is stupid.
Comparison: Fentanyl kills more people annually (55,000–60,000) than guns (47,000–50,000), a gap of roughly 5,000–10,000 deaths. Fentanyl’s toll is concentrated in overdoses, while gun deaths split across intentional (homicide/suicide) and accidental causes.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s potential lethal units (16.3–27.6 billion doses) exceed bullet production (10–12 billion rounds) by 1.5–2.5 times in sheer numbers. However, bullets are discrete, single-use items, while fentanyl’s “doses” depend on distribution and purity—much seized fentanyl is diluted or never reaches users.
Comparison: Fentanyl’s per-unit lethality (1 dose = 1 potential death) is more efficient than bullets (1–3 shots = 1 death), but its impact requires ingestion and precise dosing, while bullets deliver immediate physical trauma. Fentanyl’s seized quantity alone could kill ~5 million, vs. ~50,000 for guns’ annual toll, highlighting fentanyl’s unrealized potential vs. guns’ realized use.
Key Takeaways
Deadliness: Fentanyl edges out guns in annual deaths (by ~10–20%), despite guns’ broader cultural presence.
Scale: Fentanyl’s potential lethality (billions of doses) dwarfs bullets produced, but its real impact is curtailed by distribution and intervention.
Efficiency: Fentanyl kills with one dose; guns need 1–3 hits, making fentanyl theoretically more “efficient” per unit, though less predictable in practice.
Guns and fentanyl represent distinct threats: guns as tools of intentional violence, fentanyl as a stealthy overdose killer. Their comparison hinges on realized harm (close) vs. theoretical destruction (fentanyl wins). Which is “worse” depends on whether you prioritize body count, intent, or untapped danger.
3. (Especially since) the US exported more drugs and guns to Canada than they exported to the US.
Drugs: No
Guns: Yes
Excuse me? I think you meant fentanyl? I know we were discussing fentanyl and the COOTWH administration’s press officer but I specifically stated “drugs” and it remains that her comment in full context is stupid, just like complaining about the northern border. Canada is not the problem. If anything, Canada has problems with the US.
Conclusion
The United States exports more drugs and guns overall to Canada than Canada does to the U.S. The U.S. floods Canada with illegal firearms (tens of thousands annually, driving 85–90% of crime guns), outweighing Canada’s small fentanyl exports (43 pounds seized vs. 10.8 pounds northward). In terms of societal impact—gun violence in Canada vs. overdose deaths in the U.S.—the U.S.’s gun exports have a far greater footprint than Canada’s drug contributions, making the U.S. the dominant exporter in this bilateral exchange. Data gaps (e.g., undetected amounts) limit precision, but the trend is clear: guns south-to-north dwarf drugs north-to-south.
No, excuse me. I see what happened . My previous inquiries regarding fentanyl brought it into the US/ Canada drug and guns export question automatically:
(My apologies, Get Right, I know I'm about to lose you here)
"To determine which country, the United States or Canada, exports more drugs and guns to the other, we’ll examine the available data on illicit drug trafficking (specifically fentanyl, given its prominence) and illegal firearms flows between the two nations, focusing on FY 2024 (October 2023–September 2024) where possible, as of March 5, 2025.
Drugs (Focus on Fentanyl)"
So what you’re saying is, AI is unreliable unless both parties engaged in the debate saw the question posed to AI? What were your questions posed to AI in the last 10-20 answers you’ve posted? We have a general idea of what might have been asked but not the specific question as you posed it. Do you believe that’s an issue? Nuance is not AI’s strength, yet.
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I understand what you're saying about the importance of posting the questions I typed, in addition to the answers that it provided, that I copied and pasted. My intentions are in good faith and I was looking for answers. I can understand if you think I'm trying to skew the question to get a specific answer, but that is not my intention. I also would like to think of this as more of a discussion than a debate. If AI proves the point I attempted to make, that's okay. If it disproves the point I attempted to make, that's okay.
Hawk123 posted: The one reporter pressing her on Canada’s fentanyl being less than 1% and her answer was that it’s enough to kill 4.8 million people. Which led to:
Question 1: Last fiscal year alone there was enough fentanyl seized from Canada to kill how many people?
Hailfax posted: Now ask it to determine the total number of deaths due to fentanyl, regardless of origin or border crossed, and then give the total number of pounds of fentanyl entering or produced in the US and do the maths.
Which led to:
Question 2: Determine the total number of deaths due to fentanyl, regardless of origin or border crossed, and then give the total number of pounds of fentanyl entering or produced in the US.
Hawk123 posted: Can you then ask it how many bullets the US produces and how many shots it takes on average to kill a person? Which led to:
Question 3:
How many bullets does the US produce and how many shots it takes on average to kill a person?
Hawk123 responded: So enough to kill 4-12 billion people. This is how stupid the fentanyl calculation argument is.
Which led to:
Question 4 (I see it's not an actual question now):
Guns vs fentanyl comparisons
Halifax posted: Especially since the US exported more drugs and guns to Canada than they exported to the US
Which led to:
Question 5:
What country exports more drugs and guns to the other between the United States and Canada?
Spiritual Chaos posted: Because if you ask it what album Peter LeMarc released in 1994, it will give you a title of an album that doesn’t exist. And Peter LeMarc didn’t release an album in 1994. Which led to:
Question 6: What album did Peter LeMarc release in 1994?
Halifax posted: I know we were discussing fentanyl and the COOTWH administration’s press officer but I specifically stated “drugs” and it remains that her comment in full context is stupid, just like complaining about the northern border. Canada is not the problem. If anything, Canada has problems with the US. Which led to:
Question 7:
Compare all drug exports between United States and Canada
All answers are earlier posted in the thread.
Thanks for your time!
Ask the same questions posed in a slightly different way or wording and do you get a different answer?
If I post on the interwebs a non-scholarly paper on the trillion, zillion, million pounds of fentanyl that enters Canada from the US, does AI include it in its analysis? The lack of fully cited sources is problematic, yes?
AI = do your own research. I won’t and don’t read that blather. Nice discussion though.
” U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is planning to revoke temporary legal status for some 240,000 Ukrainians who fled the conflict with Russia, a senior Trump official and three sources familiar with the matter said, potentially putting them on a fast-track to deportation.”
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
” U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is planning to revoke temporary legal status for some 240,000 Ukrainians who fled the conflict with Russia, a senior Trump official and three sources familiar with the matter said, potentially putting them on a fast-track to deportation.”
I can't decide weather this thread is about a felon, a drug make popular poor economic conditions and hopelessness, or writing Haiku. I was hoping to see a parade. In cologne, Germany.
I was gone for a week and now every page is littered with AI nonsense that nobody's gonna read.
So true. Best to ignore that crap as much as possible.
Hypocrisy at its finest led by spineless Johnson all to appease their King by the 3rd year of this administration he will be proclaimed the 1st King of these United States! Just putting it out there in case it does happen 😂😂
I mean, I don't know the answers to all the questions asked. How is it different than me googling or going to twitter, threads, instagram, etc., Are those people not using their brains and instead copying/pasting what an app spits out at them?
I'm trying to understand, honestly. ✌️
1993: 11/22 Little Rock
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa 2022: 9/20 OKC 2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
” Two of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s political rivals have confirmed that they have been in contact with members of US President Donald Trump’s entourage following a Politico report published on Thursday in which an alleged bid to remove Zelensky from office was revealed.”
How can this happen in a ”democracy”. @DE4173 can you ask chatgpt
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Is it crap and nonsense if it corrects something that is not true?
Sure bud. How about using your brain instead of something an app spits out at you? Nobody wants to read a wall of text.
Chat GPT is so stupid. when will easter fall on 4/21?
Easter will fall on April 21st in 2024. The date of Easter changes every year, as it's determined by the first Sunday after the first full moon following the vernal equinox. In 2024, that works out to April 21st!
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1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
Comparing all drug exports (specifically illicit drugs, as legal pharmaceutical trade isn’t typically framed as “exports” in this context) between the United States and Canada requires focusing on available data for trafficking of major illegal substances like fentanyl, methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin, and marijuana. Given the prominence of fentanyl in recent discourse and data availability, it will anchor the comparison, supplemented by other drugs where possible. This analysis uses FY 2024 (October 2023–September 2024) seizure data as a proxy for trafficking flows, supplemented by broader trends, as comprehensive undetected amounts are unquantifiable. All insights are current as of March 5, 2025.
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
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teach you to leave.....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
McGovern: Well, you know what's never happened in my career, a president of the United States coming before a joint session of congress and insulting members by name, individually, shouting slurs at people.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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I understand what you're saying about the importance of posting the questions I typed, in addition to the answers that it provided, that I copied and pasted. My intentions are in good faith and I was looking for answers. I can understand if you think I'm trying to skew the question to get a specific answer, but that is not my intention. I also would like to think of this as more of a discussion than a debate. If AI proves the point I attempted to make, that's okay. If it disproves the point I attempted to make, that's okay.
All answers are earlier posted in the thread.
Thanks for your time!
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
If I post on the interwebs a non-scholarly paper on the trillion, zillion, million pounds of fentanyl that enters Canada from the US, does AI include it in its analysis? The lack of fully cited sources is problematic, yes?
AI = do your own research. I won’t and don’t read that blather. Nice discussion though.
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1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
” U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is planning to revoke temporary legal status for some 240,000 Ukrainians who fled the conflict with Russia, a senior Trump official and three sources familiar with the matter said, potentially putting them on a fast-track to deportation.”
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So true. Best to ignore that crap as much as possible.
Yes, Johnson is the epitome of spineless.
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
I'm trying to understand, honestly. ✌️
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
” Two of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s political rivals have confirmed that they have been in contact with members of US President Donald Trump’s entourage following a Politico report published on Thursday in which an alleged bid to remove Zelensky from office was revealed.”
How can this happen in a ”democracy”. @DE4173 can you ask chatgpt
when will easter fall on 4/21?
Easter will fall on April 21st in 2024. The date of Easter changes every year, as it's determined by the first Sunday after the first full moon following the vernal equinox. In 2024, that works out to April 21st!
No it won't/didn't!
1996; 9/28 New York
1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
2000: 10/17 Dallas
2003: 4/3 OKC
2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
2013: 11/16 OKC
2014: 10/8 Tulsa
2022: 9/20 OKC
2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth