Elon Musk

HughFreakingDillon · February 10

May be an image of 1 person dog and the Oval Office

tbergs · February 10

That's pretty amazing 😅

DE4173 · February 10

Next Time cover? 😄

tbergs · February 10

Tim Simmons said:

I'd rather have more EVs and charging stations if the tradeoff is Elon still gets money. We need to move past oil.

It's a tough conundrum. Oil is definitely not the solution, but neither is cobalt/nickel/copper dependency for batteries. The solution is less travel or something that we don't need to tear the earth apart to fuel transportation. I used to think electric was the answer, but not with these massive resource sucking batteries. I would bet that Trump's push for Canada and Greenland is no coincidence based on Elon running the show. He wants to plunder those places for their rare earth minerals.

Tim Simmons · February 10

More walkable cities would be great. that combined with current rail and public transport are probably the best solutions (re doing US rail is probably unworkable at this point). But people aren't gonna give up their cars and electric and its baggage is probably the least bad tradeoff to oil.

DE4173 · February 10

People debate whether or not Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

No one talks of Singles being a public transit movie.

HughFreakingDillon · February 10

Tim Simmons said:

More walkable cities would be great. that combined with current rail and public transport are probably the best solutions (re doing US rail is probably unworkable at this point). But people aren't gonna give up their cars and electric and its baggage is probably the least bad tradeoff to oil.

FIFTEEN MINUTES CITIES YOU SAY?? LEFTIST RADICAL!!!

Gern Blansten · February 10

tbergs said:

Tim Simmons said:

I'd rather have more EVs and charging stations if the tradeoff is Elon still gets money. We need to move past oil.

It's a tough conundrum. Oil is definitely not the solution, but neither is cobalt/nickel/copper dependency for batteries. The solution is less travel or something that we don't need to tear the earth apart to fuel transportation. I used to think electric was the answer, but not with these massive resource sucking batteries. I would bet that Trump's push for Canada and Greenland is no coincidence based on Elon running the show. He wants to plunder those places for their rare earth minerals.

I had that same thought. Which is why not being a douche with tariffs would be a good idea. Canada might come back at us with a vengeance when the time comes.

mickeyrat · February 10

Tim Simmons said:

More walkable cities would be great. that combined with current rail and public transport are probably the best solutions (re doing US rail is probably unworkable at this point). But people aren't gonna give up their cars and electric and its baggage is probably the least bad tradeoff to oil.

solar on existing structures and added to new builds. Solar embedded glass. Solar carport situations in office parking lots(more comfortable getting in your car in the summer to boot.)

other innovative ways to utilize the energy from the sun....

Gern Blansten · February 10

mickeyrat said:

Tim Simmons said:

More walkable cities would be great. that combined with current rail and public transport are probably the best solutions (re doing US rail is probably unworkable at this point). But people aren't gonna give up their cars and electric and its baggage is probably the least bad tradeoff to oil.

solar on existing structures and added to new builds. Solar embedded glass. Solar carport situations in office parking lots(more comfortable getting in your car in the summer to boot.)

other innovative ways to utilize the energy from the sun....

but solar still requires the batteries...it seems like that is the problem for the future

OnWis97 · February 10

Transportation planning is my field and sometimes I think it's the most failed field in America.

What we primarily need is a time machine to undo all the hasty ripping out of streetcar tracks and and road building we did in the 1940s-1960s. We put all our eggs in the single-occupant vehicle basket and the results are disastrous. Check out this nice summary why building for all modes is better for all travelers, including drivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k. I'd move to Amsterdam right now if I could.

Road building is essentially a ponzi scheme and we continue to build every housing development their own interchange ("if you come, they will build it."). We let development drive transportation infrastructure when it should have been the other way around.

Electric vehicles are not meant to save the world but the auto industry. At best, they're the answer to "how the richest among us travel without resorting to public transit or carpooling for a bit longer." As mentioned above, the development of batteries also taps finite resources (with human rights issues that make the oil industry look like summer camp). And the best part:

Electric cars release MORE toxic emissions than gas-powered vehicles and are worse for the environment, resurfaced study warns

https://safety21.cmu.edu/2024/03/06/electric-cars-release-more-toxic-emissions-than-gas-powered-vehicles-and-are-worse-for-the-environment-resurfaced-study-warns/

I'm reminded of an exchange on another (sports-related of all things) board I was on asking people if they preferred cities or suburbs. One response was "Suburbs all the way." Among his reasons was "don't want to be a slave to the bus driver. He later mentioned that his commute was 30 to 60 minutes, depending on traffic. I guess we're all a slave to something...

mickeyrat · February 10

Gern Blansten said:

mickeyrat said:

Tim Simmons said:

More walkable cities would be great. that combined with current rail and public transport are probably the best solutions (re doing US rail is probably unworkable at this point). But people aren't gonna give up their cars and electric and its baggage is probably the least bad tradeoff to oil.

solar on existing structures and added to new builds. Solar embedded glass. Solar carport situations in office parking lots(more comfortable getting in your car in the summer to boot.)

other innovative ways to utilize the energy from the sun....

but solar still requires the batteries...it seems like that is the problem for the future

then you look to recycling those as much as possible. but really feed as much real time solar into the grid, reducing coal/nat gas until its really needed.

meantime, fund research of other harm reduced means of power.....

Gern Blansten · February 10

I was reading that there is about 47 years of oil left for us at current usage levels....odd to think in those terms

HughFreakingDillon · February 10

Gern Blansten said:

I was reading that there is about 47 years of oil left for us at current usage levels....odd to think in those terms

I didn't know they had accurate estimates on how much was left.

Gern Blansten · February 10

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

I was reading that there is about 47 years of oil left for us at current usage levels....odd to think in those terms

I didn't know they had accurate estimates on how much was left.

not sure on accuracy but it's pretty amazing based on the amount we consume

Tim Simmons · February 10

OnWis97 said:

Transportation planning is my field and sometimes I think it's the most failed field in America.

What we primarily need is a time machine to undo all the hasty ripping out of streetcar tracks and and road building we did in the 1940s-1960s. We put all our eggs in the single-occupant vehicle basket and the results are disastrous. Check out this nice summary why building for all modes is better for all travelers, including drivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RRE2rDw4k. I'd move to Amsterdam right now if I could.

Road building is essentially a ponzi scheme and we continue to build every housing development their own interchange ("if you come, they will build it."). We let development drive transportation infrastructure when it should have been the other way around.

Electric vehicles are not meant to save the world but the auto industry. At best, they're the answer to "how the richest among us travel without resorting to public transit or carpooling for a bit longer." As mentioned above, the development of batteries also taps finite resources (with human rights issues that make the oil industry look like summer camp). And the best part:

Electric cars release MORE toxic emissions than gas-powered vehicles and are worse for the environment, resurfaced study warns

https://safety21.cmu.edu/2024/03/06/electric-cars-release-more-toxic-emissions-than-gas-powered-vehicles-and-are-worse-for-the-environment-resurfaced-study-warns/

I'm reminded of an exchange on another (sports-related of all things) board I was on asking people if they preferred cities or suburbs. One response was "Suburbs all the way." Among his reasons was "don't want to be a slave to the bus driver. He later mentioned that his commute was 30 to 60 minutes, depending on traffic. I guess we're all a slave to something...

Great info. Thanks!

Bentleyspop · February 11

Waiting for the EO making it illegal to trade in a Tesla

Owner of a Golden Tesla Cybertruck Says He Can No Longer Handle the Constant Harasment. He Adds, “I Tried to Trade in the Cybertruck, but Tesla Won’t Accept It”

https://www.torquenews.com/11826/owner-golden-tesla-cybertruck-says-he-can-no-longer-handle-constant-harasment-he-adds-i-tried

GlowGirl · February 11

Tim Simmons said:

More walkable cities would be great. that combined with current rail and public transport are probably the best solutions (re doing US rail is probably unworkable at this point). But people aren't gonna give up their cars and electric and its baggage is probably the least bad tradeoff to oil.

Walkable cities are a must. I haven’t owned a car since I moved to NYC in 1995. Haven’t even missed it. I usually walk to anywhere that is under a 45 minute walk - unless I am in a huge rush. Anything over that I will grab the subway. I wish more cities were like this.

OnWis97 · February 11

HughFreakingDillon said:

Tim Simmons said:

More walkable cities would be great. that combined with current rail and public transport are probably the best solutions (re doing US rail is probably unworkable at this point). But people aren't gonna give up their cars and electric and its baggage is probably the least bad tradeoff to oil.

FIFTEEN MINUTES CITIES YOU SAY?? LEFTIST RADICAL!!!

As an aside when I first heard 15-minute cities were a plot to force everyone into some weird "libruhl" lifestyle, my recognition that we're truly screwed by the knee-jerk ideologies of the loudest was complete.

Now we really can't have freedom if we don't spend copious amounts of time in our cars? I'm an incredibly cynical guy and I'd never have been able to conjure up this narrative.

Poncier · February 11

DE4173 said:

People debate whether or not Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

No one talks of Singles being a public transit movie.

"If you give them great coffee and great music..."

"People love their cars"

HughFreakingDillon · February 11

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Tim Simmons said:

More walkable cities would be great. that combined with current rail and public transport are probably the best solutions (re doing US rail is probably unworkable at this point). But people aren't gonna give up their cars and electric and its baggage is probably the least bad tradeoff to oil.

FIFTEEN MINUTES CITIES YOU SAY?? LEFTIST RADICAL!!!

As an aside when I first heard 15-minute cities were a plot to force everyone into some weird "libruhl" lifestyle, my recognition that we're truly screwed by the knee-jerk ideologies of the loudest was complete.

Now we really can't have freedom if we don't spend copious amounts of time in our cars? I'm an incredibly cynical guy and I'd never have been able to conjure up this narrative.

If uh I have no need for muh truck/tank, I aint trooly free!

mickeyrat · February 11

mickeyrat · February 12

https://www.threads.net/@bpickering316/post/DF9NAlWMflf?xmt=AQGzAa0N6uC68lr2D7OXOJGX5trzq-uEXP3WyGe_3bmC_g

mickeyrat · February 13

Halifax2TheMax · February 13

mickeyrat said:

Calling a dick a dick? You don’t say?

Gern Blansten · February 13

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5021252/uploads/editor/8s/cjsm5b9qyvfm.png

LOL

josevolution · February 13

Gern Blansten said:

LOL

Raking in the $$$$ but let’s cut out food stamps for the poor! What a sick country we are

HughFreakingDillon · February 13

so essentially musk paid trump $10m for a job

mickeyrat · February 13

HughFreakingDillon said:

so essentially musk paid trump $10m for a job

10 million in fucksticks pocket and 290 million to elect fuckstick for his own benefit. all the firings are in depts that had a handin investigations into his business dealings with the government.

mickeyrat · February 13

Elon Musk

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Electric cars release MORE toxic emissions than gas-powered vehicles and are worse for the environment, resurfaced study warns

Electric cars release MORE toxic emissions than gas-powered vehicles and are worse for the environment, resurfaced study warns

Owner of a Golden Tesla Cybertruck Says He Can No Longer Handle the Constant Harasment. He Adds, “I Tried to Trade in the Cybertruck, but Tesla Won’t Accept It”