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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    COOTWH speaking about Gaza. He has no business speaking about Gaza and where Palestinians should live.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    Hmmmmm, I thought COOTWH campaigned on no more foreign entanglements? He didn’t lie did he? Did he? Fucking cray-cray.

    From the river to the sea, Palestine will be ... abolished?

    With Israel’s Netanyahu alongside, Trump adds Gaza to his list of colonial ambitions.

    Trump, hosting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House on Tuesday, made the stunning declaration that he wants all Palestinians removedfrom Gaza — permanently.

    “All of them,” Trump said. “I mean, we’re talking about probably a million-seven people, a million-seven, maybe a million-eight. But I think all of them. I think they’ll be resettled in areas where they can live a beautiful life and not be worried about dying every day.”

    And what would become of Gaza after all Palestinians were evicted? At a formal news conference with Netanyahu in the East Room a couple of hours later, Trump unveiled his next proposal: “The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip. ... We’ll own it.”

    Huh?

    “You are talking tonight about the U.S. taking over a sovereign territory. What authority would allow you to do that?” an incredulous Kelly O’Donnell of NBC News asked. “Are you talking about a permanent occupation?”

    “I do see a long-term ownership position,” Trump answered, as though the Palestinian enclave were a hotel property on the market. “Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent.”

    Greenland, Panama, Canada and now Gaza: The sun will never set on Trump’s colonial empire.

    A moment later, the president said he was also considering evicting the Palestinians from the West Bank and awarding that territory to Israel. “We’re discussing that,” Trump said when asked about giving Israel control over biblical “Judea and Samaria,” which includes the West Bank. “And people do like the idea.” He promised an announcement “on that very specific topic over the next four weeks.”

    From the river to the sea, Palestine will cease to exist. As those uncommitted voters now know: Elections have consequences.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/04/trump-own-gaza-netanyahu-press-conference/

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,472
    People on here voted for Trump
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    Outrageous development.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    People on here voted for Trump
    Not the regular posters that post on the MT! 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    People on here voted for Trump
    No, no, no. They didn't vote for Trump, they voted for lower prices on groceries and gas, reduced inflation, no more open borders, no more transgender athletes in girls sports and the end of US world police....America first 😉.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,190
    I switched over to Fox last night and caught some of that moron Jesse Watters' show. Unfucking real. Those morons are completely on board with what trump was saying about taking over Gaza. "Why not try something else?" was the mantra.

    We're fucked if the GOP doesn't reign this fuckface in. The 25A isn't an option with all these parasites being appointed.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tbergs said:
    People on here voted for Trump
    No, no, no. They didn't vote for Trump, they voted for lower prices on groceries and gas, reduced inflation, no more open borders, no more transgender athletes in girls sports and the end of US world police....America first 😉.
    You forgot no tampons in boys bathrooms and no litter boxes in classrooms, plus no transgender surgeries at schools.
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  • mickeyrat
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    tbergs said:
    People on here voted for Trump
    No, no, no. They didn't vote for Trump, they voted for lower prices on groceries and gas, reduced inflation, no more open borders, no more transgender athletes in girls sports and the end of US world police....America first 😉.
    You forgot no tampons in boys bathrooms and no litter boxes in classrooms, plus no transgender surgeries at schools.

    think of the cost savings
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  • Lerxst1992
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    Yes the US should not occupy Gaza nor send any troops there, but the Palestinians are clearly not capable of running a peaceful country without oversight. They need the equivalent of a Board of Directors. Replace the US in 47s idea with the UN, Egypt and Jordan overseeing the Palestinian govt and reconstruction. The goal is to provide peacekeeping security, rebuild,  and also include a small resort district on a west facing shoreline to provide revenue. This is a potential path to stability and peace.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,190
    or....do the right thing and go the two state solution route

    why is it that we can't try that angle before we try turning Gaza into another trump Taj Mahal
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,190


    Exactly....trump is the stupidest man alive
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  • Lerxst1992
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    Two state solution is fine, but Palestine needs to negotiate disputed lands, sign a treaty and accept temporary oversight until the prove they are interested in peace and not take rebuilding money to line the pockets of Hamas.


    And it’s wrong of 47 to expect them to leave while they rebuild, although he thinks he is doing that as a favor to them since their country is rubble. They need to prove their peaceful intentions before oversight is discontinued. How did Japan respond to losing WWII? Did they lose their identity? Did they continue disputing Hawaii or did they accept temporary oversight, retain their culture and prosper?


    As far as China comparisons, more dem nonsense that cost them the election
did Taiwan lose a war? Gaza did, and losing should have some consequence.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    “everything I disagree with = more dem nonsense that cost them the election”. 

    Absurd. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,190
    Two state solution is fine, but Palestine needs to negotiate disputed lands, sign a treaty and accept temporary oversight until the prove they are interested in peace and not take rebuilding money to line the pockets of Hamas.


    And it’s wrong of 47 to expect them to leave while they rebuild, although he thinks he is doing that as a favor to them since their country is rubble. They need to prove their peaceful intentions before oversight is discontinued. How did Japan respond to losing WWII? Did they lose their identity? Did they continue disputing Hawaii or did they accept temporary oversight, retain their culture and prosper?


    As far as China comparisons, more dem nonsense that cost them the election
did Taiwan lose a war? Gaza did, and losing should have some consequence.
    Gaza lost a war? Or Hamas operating inside Gaza cost innocent Palestinians their country?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    Please tell us about Bibi’s land grab in Syria and the IDF’s demolition of buildings in the West Bank? Oh that shining light of democracy in the Middle East, our lonely eyes see your ethnic cleansing for the Israeli dream of river to the sea. Bibi couldn’t hide his excitement in the Oval Office as COOTWH spoke of exiling 1.7 maybe 1.8, 1.8 million people and hoping they don’t want to return. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Two state solution is fine, but Palestine needs to negotiate disputed lands, sign a treaty and accept temporary oversight until the prove they are interested in peace and not take rebuilding money to line the pockets of Hamas.


    And it’s wrong of 47 to expect them to leave while they rebuild, although he thinks he is doing that as a favor to them since their country is rubble. They need to prove their peaceful intentions before oversight is discontinued. How did Japan respond to losing WWII? Did they lose their identity? Did they continue disputing Hawaii or did they accept temporary oversight, retain their culture and prosper?


    As far as China comparisons, more dem nonsense that cost them the election
did Taiwan lose a war? Gaza did, and losing should have some consequence.
    Countries who are interested in peace


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    Two state solution is fine, but Palestine needs to negotiate disputed lands, sign a treaty and accept temporary oversight until the prove they are interested in peace and not take rebuilding money to line the pockets of Hamas.


    And it’s wrong of 47 to expect them to leave while they rebuild, although he thinks he is doing that as a favor to them since their country is rubble. They need to prove their peaceful intentions before oversight is discontinued. How did Japan respond to losing WWII? Did they lose their identity? Did they continue disputing Hawaii or did they accept temporary oversight, retain their culture and prosper?


    As far as China comparisons, more dem nonsense that cost them the election
did Taiwan lose a war? Gaza did, and losing should have some consequence.
    Countries who are interested in peace


    Seems the Israelis need the UN and some foreign governments to manage them because we know, they’re a peaceful nation. How are things in Lebanon these days? You know, the country that attacked Israel on 10/07? Like the West Bank?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Two state solution is fine, but Palestine needs to negotiate disputed lands, sign a treaty and accept temporary oversight until the prove they are interested in peace and not take rebuilding money to line the pockets of Hamas.


    And it’s wrong of 47 to expect them to leave while they rebuild, although he thinks he is doing that as a favor to them since their country is rubble. They need to prove their peaceful intentions before oversight is discontinued. How did Japan respond to losing WWII? Did they lose their identity? Did they continue disputing Hawaii or did they accept temporary oversight, retain their culture and prosper?


    As far as China comparisons, more dem nonsense that cost them the election
did Taiwan lose a war? Gaza did, and losing should have some consequence.
    Countries who are interested in peace


    Seems the Israelis need the UN and some foreign governments to manage them because we know, they’re a peaceful nation. How are things in Lebanon these days? You know, the country that attacked Israel on 10/07? Like the West Bank?
    Chill with the attitude
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