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    I have 0% pity for MAGA’s that will be hurt by their own savior f’em 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    Except the fbi was there egging him on. 
    Surprised the FBI could afford the eggs.
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    Trump’s America: where a former Capitol Police Officer needs a Go Fund Me to afford private protection because our president freed his assailants and his family is facing threats. 
    Where the fuck is the Back The Blue crowd? 
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    mickeyrat said:
    2025 is a thang? We were told it wasn’t. And what the hell is going on with the price of eggs?
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    Magas don't seem to care anymore about the issue they claimed to care about most just a few months ago. Hmmm

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/28/trump-inflation-fight-plans/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzM4MDQwNDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzM5NDIyNzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MzgwNDA0MDAsImp0aSI6IjBiZTJkZjc5LTdhNDctNGE1Mi04ODQ0LTc2NDMwYTNiYjRhYiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9vcGluaW9ucy8yMDI1LzAxLzI4L3RydW1wLWluZmxhdGlvbi1maWdodC1wbGFucy8ifQ.QFqwadyMAdvxYwsXizw7-neglU1vQoa1l7x0uV6hgvQ

    Americans are watching an inflation bait-and-switch

    A week into office, Trump has offered zero plans to lower prices.

    January 28, 2025 at 7:00 a.m. ESTToday at 7:00 a.m. EST
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    Eggs are seen for sale at a grocery store in Glendale, California, on Jan. 6. Bird flu, a disrupted supply chain and other factors have contributed to a sharp increase in egg prices in California. (Robyn Beck/AFP via Getty Images)

    Donald Trump has officially abandoned his promise to fix inflation. Maybe he never intended to fix it at all.

    The president was elected with a mandate to reduce prices, having promised that he’d lower the costs of everyday items such as eggs and bacon on Day 1. Yet a week into office, he has offered zero plans to do so. At best he has ordered his underlings to brainstorm concepts of a plan for cutting prices … and then report back in a month.

    Worse, he has undertaken a litany of measures that would raise the cost of living.

    Markets breathed a sigh of relief when new tariffs did not materialize on Trump’s first day in office. But a spat with Colombia over the weekend led him to threaten 25 percent tariffs on Colombian products, jolting coffee prices to record highs. Recall that the last time a tyrannical leader imposed tariffs on Americans’ preferred caffeinated beverage, it didn’t go so well.

    Meanwhile, on Friday, Trump’s U.S. Trade Representative began preparing paperwork to impose broad tariffs on China. Trump’s aides are also agitating to impose 25 percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada as soon as this Saturday. Contrary to Trump’s claims that only foreigners would suffer from these duties, these trade wars would raise U.S. prices on everything from tomatoes to automobiles to lumber to gasoline and natural gas.


    Never mind his campaign promises to cut energy prices in half. Sure, Trump signed an executive order last week promising to unleash “Energy Dominance”; this would be more impressive-sounding if we didn’t already have record-high energy production. The United States is producing more oil today than any country on Earth has, ever. (Natural gas production is near all-time highs, too.)

    Egg prices have also reached record highs — wholesale prices now average $6.55 for a dozen large eggs — as farmers cull flocks exposed to bird flu.

    To be sure, Trump didn’t cause chickens to fall ill. (Neither did Joe Biden, but that didn’t stop Republicans from blaming Biden for high egg prices last year.) But Trump’s actions aren’t exactly helping. He has shut down external communications from U.S. public health agencies, leading to uncertainty about what kinds of updates on bird flu civil servants are even allowed to publicly disclose.

    Nor is it helpful that, in the middle of this worldwide zoonotic outbreak, Trump has paused grant reviews for new medical research and pulled the United States out of the global organization that tracks infectious pathogens.

    Asked on Sunday why Trump has done nothing so far to address prices, his ally Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) claimed that it was never Trump’s priority to begin with. “I was pretty involved in the last campaign,” Graham said. “For every time he talked about eggs, he talked about illegal immigration 1,000 times.”

    This might disappoint voters, most of whom ranked the economy as the most important issue in this past election — and who, after Trump won, overwhelmingly said lowering prices should be top priority.

    Opinions on inflation
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    aham mentioned — kicking out immigrants and reducing consumer prices — are at odds. That’s because many immigrants are employed in industries experiencing labor shortages and price pressures, such as agriculture, home construction and food services.

    In California’s Central Valley, migrant farmworkers have stopped showing up because they fear immigration raids, virtually halting the region’s citrus harvest. Construction workers in Chicago have reportedly stayed home too.

    As I’ve explained, it’s not only undocumented workers who are at risk in Trump’s immigration crackdown. It’s also immigrants working here legally.

    Trump is in the process of, for lack of a better word, “de-documenting” people who currently have work authorization, including half a million immigrants from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti allowed to work and live in the United States. Ukrainian refugees may be swept up in these de-documentation efforts, too.

    Finally, there’s the Federal Reserve. The Fed has struggled to wring that last stubborn bit of inflation out of our economy. Trump’s agenda, including fiscal stimulus in the form of tax cuts, will make this job harder. If price growth remains strong, this reduces the likelihood that the central bank will continue lowering interest rates.

    But Trump loves low interest rates. And now he has signaled plans to pressure the Fed into cutting rates, no matter what. As he told his audience at the World Economic Forum last week, he will “demand that interest rates drop immediately.” This will not help his cause, alas; if he succeeds in even appearing to arm-twist the Fed, that is likely to lead to even worse inflation outcomes. At least, that’s what’s happened when people in other countries believed that craven politicians, rather than independent technocrats, controlled the money supply.

    As I’ve said many times before, there isn’t much presidents can do to reduce inflation, whatever their promises. But there’s a lot they can do to make things worse.

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    Magas don't seem to care anymore about the issue they claimed to care about most just a few months ago. Hmmm

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/28/trump-inflation-fight-plans/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzM4MDQwNDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzM5NDIyNzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MzgwNDA0MDAsImp0aSI6IjBiZTJkZjc5LTdhNDctNGE1Mi04ODQ0LTc2NDMwYTNiYjRhYiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9vcGluaW9ucy8yMDI1LzAxLzI4L3RydW1wLWluZmxhdGlvbi1maWdodC1wbGFucy8ifQ.QFqwadyMAdvxYwsXizw7-neglU1vQoa1l7x0uV6hgvQ

    Americans are watching an inflation bait-and-switch

    A week into office, Trump has offered zero plans to lower prices.

    January 28, 2025 at 7:00 a.m. ESTToday at 7:00 a.m. EST
    5 min
    267

    Eggs are seen for sale at a grocery store in Glendale, California, on Jan. 6. Bird flu, a disrupted supply chain and other factors have contributed to a sharp increase in egg prices in California. (Robyn Beck/AFP via Getty Images)

    Donald Trump has officially abandoned his promise to fix inflation. Maybe he never intended to fix it at all.

    The president was elected with a mandate to reduce prices, having promised that he’d lower the costs of everyday items such as eggs and bacon on Day 1. Yet a week into office, he has offered zero plans to do so. At best he has ordered his underlings to brainstorm concepts of a plan for cutting prices … and then report back in a month.

    Worse, he has undertaken a litany of measures that would raise the cost of living.

    Markets breathed a sigh of relief when new tariffs did not materialize on Trump’s first day in office. But a spat with Colombia over the weekend led him to threaten 25 percent tariffs on Colombian products, jolting coffee prices to record highs. Recall that the last time a tyrannical leader imposed tariffs on Americans’ preferred caffeinated beverage, it didn’t go so well.

    Meanwhile, on Friday, Trump’s U.S. Trade Representative began preparing paperwork to impose broad tariffs on China. Trump’s aides are also agitating to impose 25 percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada as soon as this Saturday. Contrary to Trump’s claims that only foreigners would suffer from these duties, these trade wars would raise U.S. prices on everything from tomatoes to automobiles to lumber to gasoline and natural gas.


    Never mind his campaign promises to cut energy prices in half. Sure, Trump signed an executive order last week promising to unleash “Energy Dominance”; this would be more impressive-sounding if we didn’t already have record-high energy production. The United States is producing more oil today than any country on Earth has, ever. (Natural gas production is near all-time highs, too.)

    Egg prices have also reached record highs — wholesale prices now average $6.55 for a dozen large eggs — as farmers cull flocks exposed to bird flu.

    To be sure, Trump didn’t cause chickens to fall ill. (Neither did Joe Biden, but that didn’t stop Republicans from blaming Biden for high egg prices last year.) But Trump’s actions aren’t exactly helping. He has shut down external communications from U.S. public health agencies, leading to uncertainty about what kinds of updates on bird flu civil servants are even allowed to publicly disclose.

    Nor is it helpful that, in the middle of this worldwide zoonotic outbreak, Trump has paused grant reviews for new medical research and pulled the United States out of the global organization that tracks infectious pathogens.

    Asked on Sunday why Trump has done nothing so far to address prices, his ally Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) claimed that it was never Trump’s priority to begin with. “I was pretty involved in the last campaign,” Graham said. “For every time he talked about eggs, he talked about illegal immigration 1,000 times.”

    This might disappoint voters, most of whom ranked the economy as the most important issue in this past election — and who, after Trump won, overwhelmingly said lowering prices should be top priority.

    Opinions on inflation
    Next

    aham mentioned — kicking out immigrants and reducing consumer prices — are at odds. That’s because many immigrants are employed in industries experiencing labor shortages and price pressures, such as agriculture, home construction and food services.

    In California’s Central Valley, migrant farmworkers have stopped showing up because they fear immigration raids, virtually halting the region’s citrus harvest. Construction workers in Chicago have reportedly stayed home too.

    As I’ve explained, it’s not only undocumented workers who are at risk in Trump’s immigration crackdown. It’s also immigrants working here legally.

    Trump is in the process of, for lack of a better word, “de-documenting” people who currently have work authorization, including half a million immigrants from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti allowed to work and live in the United States. Ukrainian refugees may be swept up in these de-documentation efforts, too.

    Finally, there’s the Federal Reserve. The Fed has struggled to wring that last stubborn bit of inflation out of our economy. Trump’s agenda, including fiscal stimulus in the form of tax cuts, will make this job harder. If price growth remains strong, this reduces the likelihood that the central bank will continue lowering interest rates.

    But Trump loves low interest rates. And now he has signaled plans to pressure the Fed into cutting rates, no matter what. As he told his audience at the World Economic Forum last week, he will “demand that interest rates drop immediately.” This will not help his cause, alas; if he succeeds in even appearing to arm-twist the Fed, that is likely to lead to even worse inflation outcomes. At least, that’s what’s happened when people in other countries believed that craven politicians, rather than independent technocrats, controlled the money supply.

    As I’ve said many times before, there isn’t much presidents can do to reduce inflation, whatever their promises. But there’s a lot they can do to make things worse.

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    Landslide! Mandate! Poop. 

    https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-starts-term-weak-approval-rating/story?id=118146633

    Once again, Trump starts a term with a weak approval rating

    Most modern presidents were more popular at the start of their terms.




    What Americans think about Trump's plans | 538 Politics Podcast

    What do Americans want from Trump’s second term? The crew delves into this question, exploring thermostatic public opinion and Trump’s strategy of testing the waters on key issues.

    Today, 538 is unveiling a new polling average for President Donald Trump's job approval rating. Based on the 11 polls released since his inauguration on Jan. 20, Trump's average approval rating starts off at 50 percent, while 43 percent disapprove of the job he is doing as president. You can find a constantly updated estimate of Trump's approval rating on 538's polls page, and you can read our full methodology for calculating this average here.

    Trump's initial net approval rating of +7 percentage points is lower than that of any newly elected president since World War II, with one exception: Trump himself during his first term. Trump began his presidency in 2017 with a 44.6 percent approval rating and a 41.4 percent disapproval rating, based on applying our current averaging methodology retroactively. Before that, the record low for initial net approval rating was set by former President George W. Bush in 2001, at +28 points. However, former President Joe Biden started his first term at +22 in 2021.

    Trump faces a number of tailwinds and headwinds in his first month in office. His marquee executive order to deport immigrants who are in the country illegally and have been accused of crimes is broadly supported by the American public. And an Associated Press/NORC poll conducted earlier this month found a supermajority of adults support deporting immigrants "who have been convicted of a violent crime" — with higher support for immigrants who are here illegally (83 percent) versus those who are here legally (69 percent). There is also support for reducing the number of immigrants coming into America legally, finishing the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and declaring a national border emergency.

    But a number of Trump's early actions also have the potential to spark backlash. Pardoning the people who unlawfully entered the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and committed acts of violence is decidedly unpopular, for example, with just 21 percent of adults in favor, according to that AP/NORC poll. Withdrawing from international climate agreements is also generally unpopular, according to the same survey. And there's Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship, too; an Ipsos/New York Times poll from Jan. 2-10 found that Americans oppose ending birthright citizenship for children born to immigrants who are here illegally, 55 percent to 41 percent.

    Americans are also mostly not confident, according to the same AP/NORC poll, that Trump will be able to bring down the price of goods and services, such as groceries and health care. This is notable, as it's likely the biggest issue that convinced moderates to vote for him in the 2024 election. And there is only middling support for enacting tariffs on imports, with 29 percent in favor of a tax on all goods entering the U.S. — Trump's key economic proposal. Nonpartisan economists argue Trump's new tariffs would cause prices for the average American to rise, not fall. Tariffs would also likely curb the Biden-era rebound in manufacturing and house-building by increasing the cost of goods used in construction.


    While Trump's tax cuts are also mostly popular in isolation, the costs that come along with them (Republican legislators in Congress will mandate other programs, such as Medicare or Medicaid, be cut to offset the lost revenue) could be deeply unpopular. The lowest point in Trump's first-term approval, before his ratings cratered after the events of Jan. 6, came after Republicans tried to repeal the Affordable Care Act and reduce funding for Medicaid in 2017.

    Finally, Trump goes up against an apparent gravitational force that pulls down on approval ratings as time goes on. Presidents tend to enjoy their best net approval ratings at the start of their terms. Then, as policies are passed that shift the effective ideology of the U.S. government away from the ideology of the average voter, and as the president inevitably marginalizes members of his own constituency by focusing his political capital on other policy domains, voters leave the president's side and his approval rating dips. This has been a consistent pattern for the last 80 years, barring events in foreign wars or attacks on the homeland.

    But past patterns do not guarantee future results. It is possible that Trump will be viewed more favorably as time goes on. Maybe Americans will reward the president for his handling of the border, and he will end up jettisoning the less popular parts of his policy agenda as he did in 2017. He may also be rewarded for an economy that has largely healed from pandemic-induced inflation and labor-market tightness.

    For now, what we know is that Trump starts in a relatively weak position compared to past presidents. The only president he outscores is himself, from 2017. That is not likely to reassure the White House.

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    wow....this press conference could be taking place in North Korea...really fucking weird softball setups for the pressSec to fawn over trump...all planned out no doubt
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    https://www.wsj.com/economy/u-s-consumers-lose-confidence-at-start-of-trump-second-term-0e48375b

    U.S. Consumers Lose Confidence at Start of Trump’s Second Term

    Conference Board’s index falls more than expected

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    Confidence among U.S. consumers weakened for a second-straight month, reflecting retreating optimism of both current and future conditions at the start of President Trump’s second term and expectations that inflation will rise again.

    The index of consumer sentiment published by the Conference Board, a research group, fell 5.4 points to 104.1, it said Tuesday, worse than the 106.0 expected by economists polled by The Wall Street Journal.

    The index measuring consumers’ expectations—based on their short-term outlook for income, business and labor-market conditions—fell but remained above the threshold that usually signals a recession ahead, the Conference Board said. Indeed, the proportion of consumers anticipating a recession over the next 12 months was stable near the series low, it noted.

    “Consumer confidence has been moving sideways in a relatively stable, narrow range since 2022. January was no exception,” said Dana M. Peterson, chief economist at the Conference Board.

    However, all five components used to compile the index declined on the month, with consumers’ assessments of their present situation leading the fall, and pessimism about future employment prospects returning. The fall in sentiment was led by consumers under 55 years old; those above 55 registered a small uptick in confidence, according to the data.

    The result shows consumers cautious about their future situation at the start of the new Trump administration. The cutoff date for the survey was Jan. 20, the date of Trump’s inauguration.

    Ahead of the Federal Reserve meeting this week, average year-ahead inflation expectations increased to 5.3% in January from 5.1% in December, according to the survey.

    Still, consumers notably remained bullish about the stock market, though slightly less than at the end of 2024. More than half of consumers expected stock prices to increase over the year ahead, Peterson said.

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    lol...apologists are gonna...yeah fuck it
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    All of a sudden the outrageous price of everything doesn't matter to these people! magaaaaa!!


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    LMAO
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    Perfect 
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    https://www.wsj.com/economy/u-s-consumers-lose-confidence-at-start-of-trump-second-term-0e48375b

    U.S. Consumers Lose Confidence at Start of Trump’s Second Term

    Conference Board’s index falls more than expected

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    Ed Frankl
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    Updated Jan. 28, 2025 11:22 am ET

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    Consumers expectations fell but remained above the threshold that usually signals a recession ahead the Conference Board said
    Consumers’ expectations fell but remained above the threshold that usually signals a recession ahead, the Conference Board said. PHOTO: BRANDON BELL/GETTY IMAGES

    Confidence among U.S. consumers weakened for a second-straight month, reflecting retreating optimism of both current and future conditions at the start of President Trump’s second term and expectations that inflation will rise again.

    The index of consumer sentiment published by the Conference Board, a research group, fell 5.4 points to 104.1, it said Tuesday, worse than the 106.0 expected by economists polled by The Wall Street Journal.

    The index measuring consumers’ expectations—based on their short-term outlook for income, business and labor-market conditions—fell but remained above the threshold that usually signals a recession ahead, the Conference Board said. Indeed, the proportion of consumers anticipating a recession over the next 12 months was stable near the series low, it noted.

    “Consumer confidence has been moving sideways in a relatively stable, narrow range since 2022. January was no exception,” said Dana M. Peterson, chief economist at the Conference Board.

    However, all five components used to compile the index declined on the month, with consumers’ assessments of their present situation leading the fall, and pessimism about future employment prospects returning. The fall in sentiment was led by consumers under 55 years old; those above 55 registered a small uptick in confidence, according to the data.

    The result shows consumers cautious about their future situation at the start of the new Trump administration. The cutoff date for the survey was Jan. 20, the date of Trump’s inauguration.

    Ahead of the Federal Reserve meeting this week, average year-ahead inflation expectations increased to 5.3% in January from 5.1% in December, according to the survey.

    Still, consumers notably remained bullish about the stock market, though slightly less than at the end of 2024. More than half of consumers expected stock prices to increase over the year ahead, Peterson said.


    This is just the beginning.  45/47 fully intends to wreck havoc on the economy, weaken the poor and middle class, and make the super rich even more wealthy.  The shit-show is still in the early seconds of the game.
    But hey, America asked for this.  Way to go!
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    brianlux said:

    This is just the beginning.  45/47 fully intends to wreck havoc on the economy, weaken the poor and middle class, and make the super rich even more wealthy.  The shit-show is still in the early seconds of the game.
    But hey, America asked for this.  Way to go!
    It’s total chaos already. Cutting Medicare payments, cutting federal loans and grants, school lunches,  it affects Americans immediately. I feel really bad for those that didn’t vote for him. For those that did, now you know. 
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    mrussel1 said:
    It’s total chaos already. Cutting Medicare payments, cutting federal loans and grants, school lunches,  it affects Americans immediately. I feel really bad for those that didn’t vote for him. For those that did, now you know. 

    I'm not sure very many of those who voted for him know what their in for yet.  A lot of them still think this whole mess is some kind of glorious transition via a blessed revolution.  More like a gory transfusion of a blustery revulsion.  But give them time.  They will feel it (sadly, along with the rest of us who already know).
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    My wife works in education for our county. She deals with parents in getting their special needs kids placed in the appropriate classrooms. They were concerned today, and still are, that Trump's funding freeze my affect them in some way.

    In cases like this, with so much uncertainty flying around, even if it ends up not affecting them, just the thought of potentially being laid off or furloughed or whatever weighs on people. It adds unnecessary stress to many people's lives.
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    My wife works in education for our county. She deals with parents in getting their special needs kids placed in the appropriate classrooms. They were concerned today, and still are, that Trump's funding freeze my affect them in some way.

    In cases like this, with so much uncertainty flying around, even if it ends up not affecting them, just the thought of potentially being laid off or furloughed or whatever weighs on people. It adds unnecessary stress to many people's lives.
    Cruelty is the means. How cruel can they go before people push back? So far, it’s a majority “meh.”
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    Cruelty is the means. How cruel can they go before people push back? So far, it’s a majority “meh.”

    Take enough away from enough people and shit begins to happen.  His is a fool's crusade. 
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