Same folks up front

BF25394 said:

Douglas12373 said:

TBH I think the roll in at lights and shove your way to the front is far worse than any things the regular rail riders do. I'd be aggro about that too if I spend 24 hours waiting for my spot

Advice to all who are physically able (and recognizing that some of us are bigger than others): stand your ground. These people are counting on not meeting resistance. Usually it's enough to just hold your ground. Sometimes, you have to bare some fangs and get a little physical. If you see a smaller person getting pushed around near you, step up on their behalf. In my experience, these people give up when they get pushed back with intent.

As a giant man, it's a little dicey when there's a woman trying to squeeze through. Not a good look getting "a little physical" with a tiny woman. 

Go Animal said:

BF25394 said:

Douglas12373 said:

TBH I think the roll in at lights and shove your way to the front is far worse than any things the regular rail riders do. I'd be aggro about that too if I spend 24 hours waiting for my spot

Advice to all who are physically able (and recognizing that some of us are bigger than others): stand your ground. These people are counting on not meeting resistance. Usually it's enough to just hold your ground. Sometimes, you have to bare some fangs and get a little physical. If you see a smaller person getting pushed around near you, step up on their behalf. In my experience, these people give up when they get pushed back with intent.

My favorite bit is when they squeeze through, calling for their "friend" lol. Happened at Ohana with spectacular results😂

STAAAACYYYYY!🤣

Me and 2 other guys started calling for "Stacy" to come meet them, but to no avail. They mysteriously gave up on "Stacy" without a HINT of urgency. They just stood next to us for the remainder of the set.

I guess they weren't that close with "Stacy" 😉

https://youtu.be/kx2a-BYBetc?si=I79YUIfEMNsrO3XT

SHZA said:

BF25394 said:

Douglas12373 said:

TBH I think the roll in at lights and shove your way to the front is far worse than any things the regular rail riders do. I'd be aggro about that too if I spend 24 hours waiting for my spot

Advice to all who are physically able (and recognizing that some of us are bigger than others): stand your ground. These people are counting on not meeting resistance. Usually it's enough to just hold your ground. Sometimes, you have to bare some fangs and get a little physical. If you see a smaller person getting pushed around near you, step up on their behalf. In my experience, these people give up when they get pushed back with intent.

As a giant man, it's a little dicey when there's a woman trying to squeeze through. Not a good look getting "a little physical" with a tiny woman. 

I've only had one time when a woman tried to do this, and she actually got past me because I thought she was returning to her spot at the front from the bathroom. I asked her, "Were you up there already?" She was too honest. She said, "I just want to be closer." I said, "That's not how this works," and gently sent her backwards. The other people she had pushed past behind me gave me a round of applause. This woman was not that tiny (and was also quite drunk).

Anyway, I'm talking about the people-- in my experience, exclusively male-- who just try to bully their way forward with brute force. They shall not pass. As the song says, "Don't mean to push, but I'm being shoved." Shove me, and I will respond in kind, and these dudes are usually not prepared for it because they're expecting no resistance.

demetrios said:

Gibson said:

darwinstheory said:

Gibson said:

The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.

This 100% happens!

Glad I am not the only one that sees it!

I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 

Magic! Lol

mcgruff10 said:

demetrios said:

Gibson said:

darwinstheory said:

Gibson said:

The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.

This 100% happens!

Glad I am not the only one that sees it!

I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 

That was me, my bad.    I needed to know what kind of contact lenses Ed was wearing.  

demetrios said:

mcgruff10 said:

demetrios said:

Gibson said:

darwinstheory said:

Gibson said:

The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.

This 100% happens!

Glad I am not the only one that sees it!

I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 

That was me, my bad.    I needed to know what kind of contact lenses Ed was wearing.  

I knew it. So, were they Acuvue Oasys contact lenses?

You might of seen me in my reserved seat close to the stage doing this the whole night.

j/k

Bro they were!! I was happy.  

Go Animal said:

My favorite bit is when they squeeze through, calling for their "friend" lol. Happened at Ohana with spectacular results😂

STAAAACYYYYY!🤣

Me and 2 other guys started calling for "Stacy" to come meet them, but to no avail. They mysteriously gave up on "Stacy" without a HINT of urgency. They just stood next to us for the remainder of the set.

I guess they weren't that close with "Stacy" 😉

Whenver I hear of Stacy, always steers me to this.  Maybe it was Brian Fallon in disguise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jf4qiIs2AU

jasonw said:

Raleigh 1 will be my first time in the pit after 25 years of reserved seating for PJ, if I just come when doors open how far back do you think I’ll be? 

At best? 4 or 5ish. At worst? 9 or 10ish? Thoughts, @PJNB?

Go Animal said:

jasonw said:

Raleigh 1 will be my first time in the pit after 25 years of reserved seating for PJ, if I just come when doors open how far back do you think I’ll be? 

At best? 4 or 5ish. At worst? 9 or 10ish? Thoughts, @PJNB?

Stone side 4-5 I think is accurate. Middle to left 9-10 very possible.