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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,357
    Gibson said:
    The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.
    This 100% happens!
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  • Gibson
    Gibson Chicago Posts: 2,671
    edited December 2024
    Gibson said:
    The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.
    This 100% happens!
    Glad I am not the only one that sees it!
    Post edited by Gibson on
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  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    BF25394 said:
    TBH I think the roll in at lights and shove your way to the front is far worse than any things the regular rail riders do. I'd be aggro about that too if I spend 24 hours waiting for my spot
    Advice to all who are physically able (and recognizing that some of us are bigger than others): stand your ground. These people are counting on not meeting resistance. Usually it's enough to just hold your ground. Sometimes, you have to bare some fangs and get a little physical. If you see a smaller person getting pushed around near you, step up on their behalf. In my experience, these people give up when they get pushed back with intent.
    As a giant man, it's a little dicey when there's a woman trying to squeeze through. Not a good look getting "a little physical" with a tiny woman. 
  • enddem
    enddem Posts: 184
    Go Animal said:
    BF25394 said:
    TBH I think the roll in at lights and shove your way to the front is far worse than any things the regular rail riders do. I'd be aggro about that too if I spend 24 hours waiting for my spot
    Advice to all who are physically able (and recognizing that some of us are bigger than others): stand your ground. These people are counting on not meeting resistance. Usually it's enough to just hold your ground. Sometimes, you have to bare some fangs and get a little physical. If you see a smaller person getting pushed around near you, step up on their behalf. In my experience, these people give up when they get pushed back with intent.
    My favorite bit is when they squeeze through, calling for their "friend" lol. Happened at Ohana with spectacular results😂

    STAAAACYYYYY!🤣

    Me and 2 other guys started calling for "Stacy" to come meet them, but to no avail. They mysteriously gave up on "Stacy" without a HINT of urgency. They just stood next to us for the remainder of the set.

    I guess they weren't that close with "Stacy" 😉
    The number of people trying to bully their way to the front at Ohana was absolutely ridiculous. We stood our ground and thankfully, when tempers flared a bit, people around us helped push back a couple jackasses trying to push their way towards the barrier. 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    Go Animal said:
    BF25394 said:
    TBH I think the roll in at lights and shove your way to the front is far worse than any things the regular rail riders do. I'd be aggro about that too if I spend 24 hours waiting for my spot
    Advice to all who are physically able (and recognizing that some of us are bigger than others): stand your ground. These people are counting on not meeting resistance. Usually it's enough to just hold your ground. Sometimes, you have to bare some fangs and get a little physical. If you see a smaller person getting pushed around near you, step up on their behalf. In my experience, these people give up when they get pushed back with intent.
    My favorite bit is when they squeeze through, calling for their "friend" lol. Happened at Ohana with spectacular results😂

    STAAAACYYYYY!🤣

    Me and 2 other guys started calling for "Stacy" to come meet them, but to no avail. They mysteriously gave up on "Stacy" without a HINT of urgency. They just stood next to us for the remainder of the set.

    I guess they weren't that close with "Stacy" 😉
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    SHZA said:
    BF25394 said:
    TBH I think the roll in at lights and shove your way to the front is far worse than any things the regular rail riders do. I'd be aggro about that too if I spend 24 hours waiting for my spot
    Advice to all who are physically able (and recognizing that some of us are bigger than others): stand your ground. These people are counting on not meeting resistance. Usually it's enough to just hold your ground. Sometimes, you have to bare some fangs and get a little physical. If you see a smaller person getting pushed around near you, step up on their behalf. In my experience, these people give up when they get pushed back with intent.
    As a giant man, it's a little dicey when there's a woman trying to squeeze through. Not a good look getting "a little physical" with a tiny woman. 
    At GA shows in general, that’s probably why I’ve seen more woman on woman near combat situations than man to woman. 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    SHZA said:
    BF25394 said:
    TBH I think the roll in at lights and shove your way to the front is far worse than any things the regular rail riders do. I'd be aggro about that too if I spend 24 hours waiting for my spot
    Advice to all who are physically able (and recognizing that some of us are bigger than others): stand your ground. These people are counting on not meeting resistance. Usually it's enough to just hold your ground. Sometimes, you have to bare some fangs and get a little physical. If you see a smaller person getting pushed around near you, step up on their behalf. In my experience, these people give up when they get pushed back with intent.
    As a giant man, it's a little dicey when there's a woman trying to squeeze through. Not a good look getting "a little physical" with a tiny woman. 
    I've only had one time when a woman tried to do this, and she actually got past me because I thought she was returning to her spot at the front from the bathroom. I asked her, "Were you up there already?" She was too honest. She said, "I just want to be closer." I said, "That's not how this works," and gently sent her backwards. The other people she had pushed past behind me gave me a round of applause. This woman was not that tiny (and was also quite drunk).

    Anyway, I'm talking about the people-- in my experience, exclusively male-- who just try to bully their way forward with brute force. They shall not pass. As the song says, "Don't mean to push, but I'm being shoved." Shove me, and I will respond in kind, and these dudes are usually not prepared for it because they're expecting no resistance.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    edited December 2024
    Gibson said:
    Gibson said:
    The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.
    This 100% happens!
    Glad I am not the only one that sees it!
    I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    demetrios said:
    Gibson said:
    Gibson said:
    The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.
    This 100% happens!
    Glad I am not the only one that sees it!
    I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 
    Magic! Lol
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    edited December 2024
    demetrios said:
    Gibson said:
    Gibson said:
    The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.
    This 100% happens!
    Glad I am not the only one that sees it!
    I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 
    That was me, my bad.    I needed to know what kind of contact lenses Ed was wearing.  
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    mcgruff10 said:
    demetrios said:
    Gibson said:
    Gibson said:
    The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.
    This 100% happens!
    Glad I am not the only one that sees it!
    I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 
    That was me, my bad.    I needed to know what kind of contact lenses Ed was wearing.  

    I knew it. So, were they Acuvue Oasys contact lenses?

    You might of seen me in my reserved seat close to the stage doing this the whole night.


    j/k

  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    I think this who thread is a mis-information ploy by the rail elites.  They argue back and forth and it discourages others from even attempting to line up early because they think it will be too much of a hassle.  Well done, elites.  Well done.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    demetrios said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    demetrios said:
    Gibson said:
    Gibson said:
    The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.
    This 100% happens!
    Glad I am not the only one that sees it!
    I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 
    That was me, my bad.    I needed to know what kind of contact lenses Ed was wearing.  

    I knew it. So, were they Acuvue Oasys contact lenses?

    You might of seen me in my reserved seat close to the stage doing this the whole night.


    j/k

    Bro they were!! I was happy.  :)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    mcgruff10 said:
    demetrios said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    demetrios said:
    Gibson said:
    Gibson said:
    The only thing that bugs me are the people that hop back and forth between the GA and merch lines.  When merch opens they grab what they need and then hop right back into their GA spot. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think you should only have squatters rights to one line at a time.
    This 100% happens!
    Glad I am not the only one that sees it!
    I saw that in Seattle 1 & 2, Philly 1 & 2 & Baltimore this year. Many had tents in GA while they also had chairs in the first 20 or so in the early merch line. Every hour or so going to and fro the merch line & GA line. There is also a certain few who were on that rail that were also hanging out at the pre parties during the afternoon. This one dude even organized the event! Not kidding. How he was there for 4+ hours at the party and later that night secured a spot in front between Jeff & Ed, is messed up! 
    That was me, my bad.    I needed to know what kind of contact lenses Ed was wearing.  

    I knew it. So, were they Acuvue Oasys contact lenses?

    You might of seen me in my reserved seat close to the stage doing this the whole night.


    j/k

    Bro they were!! I was happy.  :)

    Fantastic! I might need to switch to contact lenses.These glasses are killing me.


  • jpgoegel
    jpgoegel Posts: 415
    Go Animal said:
    My favorite bit is when they squeeze through, calling for their "friend" lol. Happened at Ohana with spectacular results😂

    STAAAACYYYYY!🤣

    Me and 2 other guys started calling for "Stacy" to come meet them, but to no avail. They mysteriously gave up on "Stacy" without a HINT of urgency. They just stood next to us for the remainder of the set.

    I guess they weren't that close with "Stacy" 😉
    Whenver I hear of Stacy, always steers me to this.  Maybe it was Brian Fallon in disguise

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jf4qiIs2AU
  • jasonw
    jasonw Posts: 435
    Raleigh 1 will be my first time in the pit after 25 years of reserved seating for PJ, if I just come when doors open how far back do you think I’ll be? 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    jasonw said:
    Raleigh 1 will be my first time in the pit after 25 years of reserved seating for PJ, if I just come when doors open how far back do you think I’ll be? 
    At best? 4 or 5ish. At worst? 9 or 10ish? Thoughts, @PJNB?
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    jasonw said:
    Raleigh 1 will be my first time in the pit after 25 years of reserved seating for PJ, if I just come when doors open how far back do you think I’ll be? 
    At best? 4 or 5ish. At worst? 9 or 10ish? Thoughts, @PJNB?
    In between rows 4 and 82 lol
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    Go Animal said:
    jasonw said:
    Raleigh 1 will be my first time in the pit after 25 years of reserved seating for PJ, if I just come when doors open how far back do you think I’ll be? 
    At best? 4 or 5ish. At worst? 9 or 10ish? Thoughts, @PJNB?
    Stone side 4-5 I think is accurate. Middle to left 9-10 very possible. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    PJNB said:
    jasonw said:
    Raleigh 1 will be my first time in the pit after 25 years of reserved seating for PJ, if I just come when doors open how far back do you think I’ll be? 
    At best? 4 or 5ish. At worst? 9 or 10ish? Thoughts, @PJNB?
    In between rows 4 and 82 lol
    82nd row is the Penthouse Row 😎
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!