10C Lottery Results - May 2025 US

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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,022
    edited December 2024
    PJNB said:
    Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low. 

    You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe it's' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen. 
    My group of friends went 0/10 on Pittsburgh and 2/10 for Raleigh..... in 2024, that same group that went 10/10 on Vegas, 7/10 for Baltimore and 4/10 for MSG.

    Math ain't mathin'.  It definitely seems that some accounts were just completely thrown out or not considered in the draw.
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    stones said:
    PJNB said:
    Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low. 

    You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen. 
    This situation exactly mirrors mine.  My wife and I missed out for Raleigh, both nights.  We are both long standing members of 10c.  Now I get the random nature of a lottery, but it definitely feels to me that if you entered using what Ticketmaster considers to be duplicate accounts (based on address or something) then you were disqualified. 
    I know of plenty of people that did that and were fine. Some winning 4 GA for Raleigh with 2 accounts. 
  • BV84003
    BV84003 Holt, MI Posts: 478
    CantKeepmedown said:
    It doesn't add up for sure. Will be curious to see seat selections. Maybe they didn't take any upper deck sections and actually took less in the lowers/floor? More platinum?  It's very odd


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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,022
    stones said:
    PJNB said:
    Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low. 

    You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen. 
    This situation exactly mirrors mine.  My wife and I missed out for Raleigh, both nights.  We are both long standing members of 10c.  Now I get the random nature of a lottery, but it definitely feels to me that if you entered using what Ticketmaster considers to be duplicate accounts (based on address or something) then you were disqualified. 
    I do think this is possible
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • dmbolp
    dmbolp ATL Posts: 1,513
    Submitted 9pm night before deadline, went 4-4 (FLL & ATL)...hmmm
  • stones
    stones Posts: 406
    PJNB said:
    stones said:
    PJNB said:
    Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low. 

    You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen. 
    This situation exactly mirrors mine.  My wife and I missed out for Raleigh, both nights.  We are both long standing members of 10c.  Now I get the random nature of a lottery, but it definitely feels to me that if you entered using what Ticketmaster considers to be duplicate accounts (based on address or something) then you were disqualified. 
    I know of plenty of people that did that and were fine. Some winning 4 GA for Raleigh with 2 accounts. 
    I'm not for one second saying that TM have an infallible system for identifying "duplicate" accounts.  In fact I'm saying the opposite.  So just because some still managed to score tickets on a 2nd account doesn't mean others weren't disqualified.
  • jrfigg
    jrfigg SC Posts: 152
    I submitted my request on 12/5 at 1:15pm. FL 2, ATL and Raleigh. Hit all 5.

    I submitted requests under my wife’s account, that I just signed up for on 12/2 with the rumors of an announcement, about 5 mins later. Just ATL and Raleigh. 0-4.

    Both TM accounts use the same home address and Mastercard. 

    I did not have tix to Raleigh in 2016 (first kid was born that week) and was not in the initial wave of Raleigh tix. 

    I have sold 4-5 pairs of tix to different shows, including PJ this year and last on TM in recent years. 

    Do with this info what you will
  • Herd Behavior
    Herd Behavior Nashville Posts: 6
    0-4

    X ATL 2
    X Nash 1
    X Nash 2
    X Pitt 1
  • Spoken
    Spoken Posts: 1,499
    PJNB said:
    I wish there was more info given to us. 

    How many people put in for Raleigh? How many won? It would not be that difficult to give us that info. Also give me a heads up if something was flagged on my account or my wife's that prevented us from getting tickets. 

    Tell us how the lotto works. Do they in fact do it show by show with GA being filled first like they did in the past and then RES or are they really picking a request number and giving everyone everything they want and the people that are on the backside of that number will end up with nothing. 

    They took priority away from us they took odds away from us they took GA only away from us and now we need to just put our faith its a fair system. Those things I just mentioned helped us prove the lotto was fairly done. Now we have nothing. Pretty frustrating to be honest. 

    They messed up priority bad in 2023. We were able to catch it as fans on this board and 10C made the change and redid the lotto which was a great thing to do. It was still messed up but at least they tried. Now we just take whatever they give us and people just say its a lotto what do you expect. I expect to win at least one RES for Raleigh out of 4 tries. There is no way the demand for that show is so great I would miss out on it that many times based of previous demand for these shows. I just dont believe it. 

    If I am wrong and the demand was there enough to have me miss all 4 shows then they have broken the lotto allowing people put in for shows that have no desire to even go to gambling on GA and just having fan to fan to throw the tickets back to. I dont expect a response from 10C on this but it does not take a rocket scientist to see this is a broken system for some fans. 
    Putting faith into Ticketmaster is impossible LOL.
  • JBob87
    JBob87 Posts: 485
    edited December 2024
    PJNB said:
    Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low. 

    You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen. 
    Two things do seem like BS but we DONT truly know:

    1. "More seats than ever before" with so many shutouts which was how PJ Premium / upper deck seats were originally sold
    2. Only 10% of seats being PJ Premium

    HOWEVER there are 2 big factors driving demand the other way that are hard to estimate:
    1. Short tours in arenas = less capacity overall so more demand for any given show
    2. Elimination of priority makes it way more likely to win 3+ shows...under old system that was a lot harder and likely had more even distribution of tickets
    Post edited by JBob87 on
  • tylermoore
    tylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 1,113
    The conspiracy theorists are out after this draw! This is how it’s been the last few draws. It’s obviously not fair, but whatever is messed up with the algorithm, Pearl Jam doesn’t seem to give a shit. 
    I actually think this draw was more “fair” than the last one. This draw I’ve seen people go 1-4, 2-5. Last draw it was, you got every show you put in for or NOTHING at all. At least this time some people got at least 1 or two shows. Sucks that so many people got nothing still. Shouldn’t work that way. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    The stoppages and restarts during the Raleigh draw were odd. It did seem to me that the type of results we saw changed from almost universal GA N1/RES N2 early on to multiple GAs for both nights after the restart. Just what I saw.
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  • Shaggy
    Shaggy Posts: 19
    I'm starting to think that a "true" lottery is not being used for the draws.  It doesn't seem that they are randomly drawing members continuously until the allotment is complete.  From the comments posted and the results, my impression is they are just taking the list of entrants in order of submission and picking a starting # and filling sequentially from there, with a new starting # draw for each show.  Seems like the best results were from people who registered later in the signup window vs people who signed up immediately.
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    PJNB said:
    Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low. 

    You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen. 
    Raleigh in 2016 was one of 20+ shows up the East Coast, with a different lottery system. I don't think you can compare those results to this tour.
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  • schaefferlax
    schaefferlax Posts: 467
    Shaggy said:
    I'm starting to think that a "true" lottery is not being used for the draws.  It doesn't seem that they are randomly drawing members continuously until the allotment is complete.  From the comments posted and the results, my impression is they are just taking the list of entrants in order of submission and picking a starting # and filling sequentially from there, with a new starting # draw for each show.  Seems like the best results were from people who registered later in the signup window vs people who signed up immediately.
    I signed up within 15 minutes and got GA for Pitt. Similar results last lottery as well. I can't help but sign up instantly.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low. 

    You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen. 
    Raleigh in 2016 was one of 20+ shows up the East Coast, with a different lottery system. I don't think you can compare those results to this tour.
    True but they also added a show making it even better odds on hitting something. The demand had not gone up enough that we went from a guarantee pick to not being able to hit with 4 tries. And then miss out on all other shows too. I don’t believe it’s possible personally. 
  • rrancani
    rrancani Saint Cloud, FL Posts: 46
    edited December 2024
    I got into N2 Hollywood. 

    Wondering if the lottery is at least partially tied to your address? Tried to get Philly tix last year via the lottery and got shut out(used to live in the Philly area so planned to fly back for the show). I live in FL now. 
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    edited December 2024
    PJNB said:
    I wish there was more info given to us. 

    How many people put in for Raleigh? How many won? It would not be that difficult to give us that info. Also give me a heads up if something was flagged on my account or my wife's that prevented us from getting tickets. 

    Tell us how the lotto works. Do they in fact do it show by show with GA being filled first like they did in the past and then RES or are they really picking a request number and giving everyone everything they want and the people that are on the backside of that number will end up with nothing. 

    They took priority away from us they took odds away from us they took GA only away from us and now we need to just put our faith its a fair system. Those things I just mentioned helped us prove the lotto was fairly done. Now we have nothing. Pretty frustrating to be honest. 

    They messed up priority bad in 2023. We were able to catch it as fans on this board and 10C made the change and redid the lotto which was a great thing to do. It was still messed up but at least they tried. Now we just take whatever they give us and people just say its a lotto what do you expect. I expect to win at least one RES for Raleigh out of 4 tries. There is no way the demand for that show is so great I would miss out on it that many times based of previous demand for these shows. I just dont believe it. 

    If I am wrong and the demand was there enough to have me miss all 4 shows then they have broken the lotto allowing people put in for shows that have no desire to even go to gambling on GA and just having fan to fan to throw the tickets back to. I dont expect a response from 10C on this but it does not take a rocket scientist to see this is a broken system for some fans. 
    Do you have 4 accounts? Or did you go 0/2?

    And, I think there is overwhelming evidence that the draw is member-by-member and not show-by-show. The wording of the pre-sale announcement indicates it, and the results bear it out. Yes, people are simply putting in for all shows and selling what they don't want. Yes, their number might get drawn before your numbers.
    Post edited by mpedone on
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  • jdopj
    jdopj Posts: 772
    Reserved used to be easier to get because back than there were alot of GA or bust people only. Allowing F2F while has its benefits allows people to be more risky with going to shows. I know I put in for 6 and was going to decide where/if I was going depending on what I got.
    It’s the system now, I would have rather set my priorities for the things I really wanted.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mpedone said:
    PJNB said:
    I wish there was more info given to us. 

    How many people put in for Raleigh? How many won? It would not be that difficult to give us that info. Also give me a heads up if something was flagged on my account or my wife's that prevented us from getting tickets. 

    Tell us how the lotto works. Do they in fact do it show by show with GA being filled first like they did in the past and then RES or are they really picking a request number and giving everyone everything they want and the people that are on the backside of that number will end up with nothing. 

    They took priority away from us they took odds away from us they took GA only away from us and now we need to just put our faith its a fair system. Those things I just mentioned helped us prove the lotto was fairly done. Now we have nothing. Pretty frustrating to be honest. 

    They messed up priority bad in 2023. We were able to catch it as fans on this board and 10C made the change and redid the lotto which was a great thing to do. It was still messed up but at least they tried. Now we just take whatever they give us and people just say its a lotto what do you expect. I expect to win at least one RES for Raleigh out of 4 tries. There is no way the demand for that show is so great I would miss out on it that many times based of previous demand for these shows. I just dont believe it. 

    If I am wrong and the demand was there enough to have me miss all 4 shows then they have broken the lotto allowing people put in for shows that have no desire to even go to gambling on GA and just having fan to fan to throw the tickets back to. I dont expect a response from 10C on this but it does not take a rocket scientist to see this is a broken system for some fans. 
    Do you have 4 accounts? I think you went 0/2.

    And, I think there is overwhelming evidence that the draw is member-by-member and not show-by-show. The wording of the pre-sale announcement indicates it, and the results bear it out. Yes, people are simply putting in for all shows and selling what they don't want. Yes, their number might get drawn before your numbers.
    Some people won only one with Raleigh So yes, I went 0-4 With two accounts

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