10C Lottery Results - May 2025 US

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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,018
    JW2836 said:
    Colleen17 said:
    So disappointed again… ever since they switched to Ticketmaster presales I have NEVER gotten tickets. I’ve been a member for 25 years at least. Smh. Soooo sad. I never post just read but I’m really bummed out about this. I put in for both Florida shows and both Pittsburgh shows. * ends sad rant* :(
    I feel your pain.  I have been a member for close to 30 years and was shut out of the Pittsburgh shows.  I was so confident I would get tickets that I did not enter for a fan presale code.  I have little faith when Live Nation/Ticket Master is handling anything.
    I didn’t enter for the same reason.  

    Pittsburgh was a harder ticket than MSG this lottery.  I have a hard time talking that up to just “demand”
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    edited December 2024
    AFJAMMER said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    I think the most shocking thing is how many people hit multiples and then how many people hit 0

    Its almost like they picked accounts instead of running individual show lotteries 

    Plus, everyone getting Raleigh GA 1 and Raleigh RES 2 hit simultaneously was odd, and is even more odd now
    The way the Raleigh lotto rolled out with people getting RES N2 immediately after getting GA N1 we could tell something was different this time 
    It seemed 10C was doing right by people that had 2016 Raleigh canceled by fullfilling their requests first and then processing everyone else the the show order.


    I know people that had GA for 2016 that missed out. 

    Also why would  that be any different than  Baltimore, Vegas, or Sacramento? They got no special treatment. 

    Because Raleigh was canceled by PJ as a protest to the bathroom bill the NC legislature passed. Baltimore was canceled by an act of god (COVID).
    More like renovations. 
    I’m not sure why you gotta bring accuracy into this conversation. That doesn’t fit their narrative.

    The original was postponed because of COVID in 2020. It wasn't rescheduled as part of the Gigaton tour because of renovations. The only narrative is actual history. Unless history and facts are your "they." Raleigh 2016 was cancelled as a protest.


    Post edited by KJ228171 on
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    KJ228171 said:
    AFJAMMER said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    I think the most shocking thing is how many people hit multiples and then how many people hit 0

    Its almost like they picked accounts instead of running individual show lotteries 

    Plus, everyone getting Raleigh GA 1 and Raleigh RES 2 hit simultaneously was odd, and is even more odd now
    The way the Raleigh lotto rolled out with people getting RES N2 immediately after getting GA N1 we could tell something was different this time 
    It seemed 10C was doing right by people that had 2016 Raleigh canceled by fullfilling their requests first and then processing everyone else the the show order.


    I know people that had GA for 2016 that missed out. 

    Also why would  that be any different than  Baltimore, Vegas, or Sacramento? They got no special treatment. 

    Because Raleigh was canceled by PJ as a protest to the bathroom bill the NC legislature passed. Baltimore was canceled by an act of god (COVID).
    More like renovations. 
    I’m not sure why you gotta bring accuracy into this conversation. That doesn’t fit their narrative.

    The original was canceled because of COVID in 2020. It wasn't rescheduled as part of the Gigaton tour because of renovations. The only narrative is actual history. Unless history and facts are your "they." Raleigh 2016 was cancelled as a protest.
    But people that had Raleigh 2016 were shut out for 2025. Wouldn’t it make more sense that it is a coincidence people hit both lottos instead of the narrative of they helped some out but not others?
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    JW2836 said:
    Colleen17 said:
    So disappointed again… ever since they switched to Ticketmaster presales I have NEVER gotten tickets. I’ve been a member for 25 years at least. Smh. Soooo sad. I never post just read but I’m really bummed out about this. I put in for both Florida shows and both Pittsburgh shows. * ends sad rant* :(
    I feel your pain.  I have been a member for close to 30 years and was shut out of the Pittsburgh shows.  I was so confident I would get tickets that I did not enter for a fan presale code.  I have little faith when Live Nation/Ticket Master is handling anything.
    I didn’t enter for the same reason.  

    Pittsburgh was a harder ticket than MSG this lottery.  I have a hard time talking that up to just “demand”
    How is that determined? Not asking to be an ass, just curious. Is it just because lots of people were shutout for Pittsburgh? 

    There certainly seems to be some weirdness with these draws over the years. I wish they would go back to priority but even then, people were getting shutout from their 1st priority while others were getting same show/seats with their 10th.  I know it's a lottery and it's random, but that is a tough pill to swallow for some. 
  • AFJAMMER
    AFJAMMER Posts: 100
    KJ228171 said:
    AFJAMMER said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    I think the most shocking thing is how many people hit multiples and then how many people hit 0

    Its almost like they picked accounts instead of running individual show lotteries 

    Plus, everyone getting Raleigh GA 1 and Raleigh RES 2 hit simultaneously was odd, and is even more odd now
    The way the Raleigh lotto rolled out with people getting RES N2 immediately after getting GA N1 we could tell something was different this time 
    It seemed 10C was doing right by people that had 2016 Raleigh canceled by fullfilling their requests first and then processing everyone else the the show order.


    I know people that had GA for 2016 that missed out. 

    Also why would  that be any different than  Baltimore, Vegas, or Sacramento? They got no special treatment. 

    Because Raleigh was canceled by PJ as a protest to the bathroom bill the NC legislature passed. Baltimore was canceled by an act of god (COVID).
    More like renovations. 
    I’m not sure why you gotta bring accuracy into this conversation. That doesn’t fit their narrative.

    The original was canceled because of COVID in 2020. It wasn't rescheduled as part of the Gigaton tour because of renovations. The only narrative is actual history. Unless history and facts are your "they." Raleigh 2016 was cancelled as a protest.
    Got it…didn’t happen because of renovations. 

    They refers to anyone who believes in entitlement because they’ve been a member for 30 years, deserve first hand treatment of a cancelled show (for whatever reason), doesn’t understand how a lottery works. 

    Do people think they have more chances or deserve more chances in a lottery based on seniority? That would defeat a fair lottery from occurring. 


    9/1/00
    5/28/06
    7/6/06
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,018
    JW2836 said:
    Colleen17 said:
    So disappointed again… ever since they switched to Ticketmaster presales I have NEVER gotten tickets. I’ve been a member for 25 years at least. Smh. Soooo sad. I never post just read but I’m really bummed out about this. I put in for both Florida shows and both Pittsburgh shows. * ends sad rant* :(
    I feel your pain.  I have been a member for close to 30 years and was shut out of the Pittsburgh shows.  I was so confident I would get tickets that I did not enter for a fan presale code.  I have little faith when Live Nation/Ticket Master is handling anything.
    I didn’t enter for the same reason.  

    Pittsburgh was a harder ticket than MSG this lottery.  I have a hard time talking that up to just “demand”
    How is that determined? Not asking to be an ass, just curious. Is it just because lots of people were shutout for Pittsburgh? 

    There certainly seems to be some weirdness with these draws over the years. I wish they would go back to priority but even then, people were getting shutout from their 1st priority while others were getting same show/seats with their 10th.  I know it's a lottery and it's random, but that is a tough pill to swallow for some. 
    Just my own personal circles.  I do not personally know a single person who won either Pittsburgh show.  That has never happened before.
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • JW2836
    JW2836 Posts: 14
    JW2836 said:
    Colleen17 said:
    So disappointed again… ever since they switched to Ticketmaster presales I have NEVER gotten tickets. I’ve been a member for 25 years at least. Smh. Soooo sad. I never post just read but I’m really bummed out about this. I put in for both Florida shows and both Pittsburgh shows. * ends sad rant* :(
    I feel your pain.  I have been a member for close to 30 years and was shut out of the Pittsburgh shows.  I was so confident I would get tickets that I did not enter for a fan presale code.  I have little faith when Live Nation/Ticket Master is handling anything.
    I didn’t enter for the same reason.  

    Pittsburgh was a harder ticket than MSG this lottery.  I have a hard time talking that up to just “demand”
    How is that determined? Not asking to be an ass, just curious. Is it just because lots of people were shutout for Pittsburgh? 

    There certainly seems to be some weirdness with these draws over the years. I wish they would go back to priority but even then, people were getting shutout from their 1st priority while others were getting same show/seats with their 10th.  I know it's a lottery and it's random, but that is a tough pill to swallow for some. 
    Not to sound like a complainer but I thought this was a benefit of paying a membership in the fan club and to have priority seating.  I guess I was flying too close to the sun.
  • Sugarloafer04
    Sugarloafer04 Colorado // NYC Posts: 782
    my results: 
    Florida 1: Reserved
    Florida 2: Reserved
    Nashville 1: Reserved 
    Nashville 2: Reserved
    Raleigh 1: Reserved
    Raleigh 2: GA 
    Pittsburgh 1: Unfulfilled 
    Pittsburgh 2: Reserved

    was not expecting to go 7 for 8...
    2016: Telluride, CO
    2018: Fenway 1
    2021: Sea.Hear.Now
    2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden 
    2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
    2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2
    2025: Florida 1, Florida 2, Nashville 1, Nashville 2, Raleigh 1, Raleigh 2, Pittsburgh 1, Pittsburgh 2
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    edited December 2024
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    AFJAMMER said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    I think the most shocking thing is how many people hit multiples and then how many people hit 0

    Its almost like they picked accounts instead of running individual show lotteries 

    Plus, everyone getting Raleigh GA 1 and Raleigh RES 2 hit simultaneously was odd, and is even more odd now
    The way the Raleigh lotto rolled out with people getting RES N2 immediately after getting GA N1 we could tell something was different this time 
    It seemed 10C was doing right by people that had 2016 Raleigh canceled by fullfilling their requests first and then processing everyone else the the show order.


    I know people that had GA for 2016 that missed out. 

    Also why would  that be any different than  Baltimore, Vegas, or Sacramento? They got no special treatment. 

    Because Raleigh was canceled by PJ as a protest to the bathroom bill the NC legislature passed. Baltimore was canceled by an act of god (COVID).
    More like renovations. 
    I’m not sure why you gotta bring accuracy into this conversation. That doesn’t fit their narrative.

    The original was canceled because of COVID in 2020. It wasn't rescheduled as part of the Gigaton tour because of renovations. The only narrative is actual history. Unless history and facts are your "they." Raleigh 2016 was cancelled as a protest.
    But people that had Raleigh 2016 were shut out for 2025. Wouldn’t it make more sense that it is a coincidence people hit both lottos instead of the narrative of they helped some out but not others?
    Maybe they ran out of slots that they carved out for the shows? Too many people with 2016 got N1 GA and/or N2 Reserve in a wave that was done before any other for it not to be planned. It's beyond coincidence. The fact that it was essential a pre-draw before the "real" draw later that night seems to also point to that.

  • AFJAMMER
    AFJAMMER Posts: 100
    JW2836 said:
    JW2836 said:
    Colleen17 said:
    So disappointed again… ever since they switched to Ticketmaster presales I have NEVER gotten tickets. I’ve been a member for 25 years at least. Smh. Soooo sad. I never post just read but I’m really bummed out about this. I put in for both Florida shows and both Pittsburgh shows. * ends sad rant* :(
    I feel your pain.  I have been a member for close to 30 years and was shut out of the Pittsburgh shows.  I was so confident I would get tickets that I did not enter for a fan presale code.  I have little faith when Live Nation/Ticket Master is handling anything.
    I didn’t enter for the same reason.  

    Pittsburgh was a harder ticket than MSG this lottery.  I have a hard time talking that up to just “demand”
    How is that determined? Not asking to be an ass, just curious. Is it just because lots of people were shutout for Pittsburgh? 

    There certainly seems to be some weirdness with these draws over the years. I wish they would go back to priority but even then, people were getting shutout from their 1st priority while others were getting same show/seats with their 10th.  I know it's a lottery and it's random, but that is a tough pill to swallow for some. 
    Not to sound like a complainer but I thought this was a benefit of paying a membership in the fan club and to have priority seating.  I guess I was flying too close to the sun.
    The benefit is being able to participate in the lottery.
    9/1/00
    5/28/06
    7/6/06
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    AFJAMMER said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    KJ228171 said:
    PJNB said:
    I think the most shocking thing is how many people hit multiples and then how many people hit 0

    Its almost like they picked accounts instead of running individual show lotteries 

    Plus, everyone getting Raleigh GA 1 and Raleigh RES 2 hit simultaneously was odd, and is even more odd now
    The way the Raleigh lotto rolled out with people getting RES N2 immediately after getting GA N1 we could tell something was different this time 
    It seemed 10C was doing right by people that had 2016 Raleigh canceled by fullfilling their requests first and then processing everyone else the the show order.


    I know people that had GA for 2016 that missed out. 

    Also why would  that be any different than  Baltimore, Vegas, or Sacramento? They got no special treatment. 

    Because Raleigh was canceled by PJ as a protest to the bathroom bill the NC legislature passed. Baltimore was canceled by an act of god (COVID).
    More like renovations. 
    I’m not sure why you gotta bring accuracy into this conversation. That doesn’t fit their narrative.

    The original was canceled because of COVID in 2020. It wasn't rescheduled as part of the Gigaton tour because of renovations. The only narrative is actual history. Unless history and facts are your "they." Raleigh 2016 was cancelled as a protest.
    But people that had Raleigh 2016 were shut out for 2025. Wouldn’t it make more sense that it is a coincidence people hit both lottos instead of the narrative of they helped some out but not others?
    Maybe they ran out of slots that they carved out for the shows? Too many people with 2016 got N1 GA and/or N2 Reserve in a wave that was done before any other for it not to be planned. It's beyond coincidence. The fact that it was essential a pre-draw before the "real" draw later that night seems to also point to that.

    I know of at least 3 people that got GA emails for Raleigh on that first wave that did not put in for 2016. 


  • my results: 
    Florida 1: Reserved
    Florida 2: Reserved
    Nashville 1: Reserved 
    Nashville 2: Reserved
    Raleigh 1: Reserved
    Raleigh 2: GA 
    Pittsburgh 1: Unfulfilled 
    Pittsburgh 2: Reserved

    was not expecting to go 7 for 8...
    😯 you made out like a dawg!! Congrats!!🎉🍾 
  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    my results: 
    Florida 1: Reserved
    Florida 2: Reserved
    Nashville 1: Reserved 
    Nashville 2: Reserved
    Raleigh 1: Reserved
    Raleigh 2: GA 
    Pittsburgh 1: Unfulfilled 
    Pittsburgh 2: Reserved

    was not expecting to go 7 for 8...

    Good for you but that feels kind of unfair when so many got shut out. But I get it, it is a lottery and there is too much demand for too little supply. Not looking forward to the Artist sale.
  • AFJAMMER said:
    JW2836 said:
    JW2836 said:
    Colleen17 said:
    So disappointed again… ever since they switched to Ticketmaster presales I have NEVER gotten tickets. I’ve been a member for 25 years at least. Smh. Soooo sad. I never post just read but I’m really bummed out about this. I put in for both Florida shows and both Pittsburgh shows. * ends sad rant* :(
    I feel your pain.  I have been a member for close to 30 years and was shut out of the Pittsburgh shows.  I was so confident I would get tickets that I did not enter for a fan presale code.  I have little faith when Live Nation/Ticket Master is handling anything.
    I didn’t enter for the same reason.  

    Pittsburgh was a harder ticket than MSG this lottery.  I have a hard time talking that up to just “demand”
    How is that determined? Not asking to be an ass, just curious. Is it just because lots of people were shutout for Pittsburgh? 

    There certainly seems to be some weirdness with these draws over the years. I wish they would go back to priority but even then, people were getting shutout from their 1st priority while others were getting same show/seats with their 10th.  I know it's a lottery and it's random, but that is a tough pill to swallow for some. 
    Not to sound like a complainer but I thought this was a benefit of paying a membership in the fan club and to have priority seating.  I guess I was flying too close to the sun.
    The benefit is being able to participate in the lottery.
    And going 0 for 16

    SHOW COUNT: (170) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=114, US=124, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
    Mexico=1, Colombia=1 



  • danofun
    danofun Posts: 1,301
    my results: 
    Florida 1: Reserved
    Florida 2: Reserved
    Nashville 1: Reserved 
    Nashville 2: Reserved
    Raleigh 1: Reserved
    Raleigh 2: GA 
    Pittsburgh 1: Unfulfilled 
    Pittsburgh 2: Reserved

    was not expecting to go 7 for 8...

    Good for you but that feels kind of unfair when so many got shut out. But I get it, it is a lottery and there is too much demand for too little supply. Not looking forward to the Artist sale.
    danofun said:
    pjl44 said:
    danofun said:
    BF25394 said:
    danofun said:
    Go Animal said:
    PinoyPJ said:
    wow! crazy 0-10?!? 
    0-10 (and I'm not the only one)
    Going 0/10 is not surprising. Odds are not in our favor. Seeing individuals go 6/8, 7/10, etc., now that's surprising. Zero chance it's 100% random.
    This is the definition of random. Some will get all, some will get some, some will get none. 
    While you are correct that there will be variance. The probability of outcomes varies greatly. Speculation based on entry numbers is there were ~25,000 entries. For the sake of this exercise let’s assume the average number of shows selected was 3. The probability of a single entry winning 0 lotteries, when entering a minimum of 3, is 66.48%. The probability of an entry winning 7 or more is 0.000018%. 
    Yeah this is the answer to the flippant "that's how lotteries go" response. If it's tough enough that you see people going 0 for 10, you wouldn't think you'd see many if any 7 for 8s.

    We have no idea how the sausage is made so I'm not saying there's some grand conspiracy. But I also wouldn't constantly jump in and tut-tut someone who is frustrated.
    Well said. There are clearly some selection details that we are not privy to. Thanks to F2F, my account probably refreshed TMs site 100k times last year. And then I requested all 10 shows as GA/Res. In their eyes, the probability of me being the PJ crazed fan that I am is probably pretty low! 

    We clearly don't know all the details of this "lottery." And to be fair, they're the bands tickets and they can distribute them however they want.
  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,371
    Results:
    Raleigh n1:reserved
    Raleigh n2: reserved
    Pitt n1: GA
    pitt n2: nope

    And so the hunt begins for a Pgh n2 ticket. I grew up there so this is the show I am looking forward to the most. Good friends and family and Pearl Jam is always on fire in Pgh!

    Congrats and/or condolences to everyone. 
    The exact same for me!
    #Grievance2025 
  • danofun said: if
    my results: 
    Florida 1: Reserved
    Florida 2: Reserved
    Nashville 1: Reserved 
    Nashville 2: Reserved
    Raleigh 1: Reserved
    Raleigh 2: GA 
    Pittsburgh 1: Unfulfilled 
    Pittsburgh 2: Reserved

    was not expecting to go 7 for 8...

    Good for you but that feels kind of unfair when so many got shut out. But I get it, it is a lottery and there is too much demand for too little supply. Not looking forward to the Artist sale.
    danofun said:
    pjl44 said:
    danofun said:
    BF25394 said:
    danofun said:
    Go Animal said:
    PinoyPJ said:
    wow! crazy 0-10?!? 
    0-10 (and I'm not the only one)
    Going 0/10 is not surprising. Odds are not in our favor. Seeing individuals go 6/8, 7/10, etc., now that's surprising. Zero chance it's 100% random.
    This is the definition of random. Some will get all, some will get some, some will get none. 
    While you are correct that there will be variance. The probability of outcomes varies greatly. Speculation based on entry numbers is there were ~25,000 entries. For the sake of this exercise let’s assume the average number of shows selected was 3. The probability of a single entry winning 0 lotteries, when entering a minimum of 3, is 66.48%. The probability of an entry winning 7 or more is 0.000018%. 
    Yeah this is the answer to the flippant "that's how lotteries go" response. If it's tough enough that you see people going 0 for 10, you wouldn't think you'd see many if any 7 for 8s.

    We have no idea how the sausage is made so I'm not saying there's some grand conspiracy. But I also wouldn't constantly jump in and tut-tut someone who is frustrated.
    Well said. There are clearly some selection details that we are not privy to. Thanks to F2F, my account probably refreshed TMs site 100k times last year. And then I requested all 10 shows as GA/Res. In their eyes, the probability of me being the PJ crazed fan that I am is probably pretty low! 

    We clearly don't know all the details of this "lottery." And to be fair, they're the bands tickets and they can distribute them however they want.
    There’s “how they want” and how it was posted to everyone, including a link to some fair ticketing thing I didn’t click. I’m not calling shenanigans, but people going 0-16 and others 7-8 just doesn’t seem lottery-ish. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    danofun said: if
    my results: 
    Florida 1: Reserved
    Florida 2: Reserved
    Nashville 1: Reserved 
    Nashville 2: Reserved
    Raleigh 1: Reserved
    Raleigh 2: GA 
    Pittsburgh 1: Unfulfilled 
    Pittsburgh 2: Reserved

    was not expecting to go 7 for 8...

    Good for you but that feels kind of unfair when so many got shut out. But I get it, it is a lottery and there is too much demand for too little supply. Not looking forward to the Artist sale.
    danofun said:
    pjl44 said:
    danofun said:
    BF25394 said:
    danofun said:
    Go Animal said:
    PinoyPJ said:
    wow! crazy 0-10?!? 
    0-10 (and I'm not the only one)
    Going 0/10 is not surprising. Odds are not in our favor. Seeing individuals go 6/8, 7/10, etc., now that's surprising. Zero chance it's 100% random.
    This is the definition of random. Some will get all, some will get some, some will get none. 
    While you are correct that there will be variance. The probability of outcomes varies greatly. Speculation based on entry numbers is there were ~25,000 entries. For the sake of this exercise let’s assume the average number of shows selected was 3. The probability of a single entry winning 0 lotteries, when entering a minimum of 3, is 66.48%. The probability of an entry winning 7 or more is 0.000018%. 
    Yeah this is the answer to the flippant "that's how lotteries go" response. If it's tough enough that you see people going 0 for 10, you wouldn't think you'd see many if any 7 for 8s.

    We have no idea how the sausage is made so I'm not saying there's some grand conspiracy. But I also wouldn't constantly jump in and tut-tut someone who is frustrated.
    Well said. There are clearly some selection details that we are not privy to. Thanks to F2F, my account probably refreshed TMs site 100k times last year. And then I requested all 10 shows as GA/Res. In their eyes, the probability of me being the PJ crazed fan that I am is probably pretty low! 

    We clearly don't know all the details of this "lottery." And to be fair, they're the bands tickets and they can distribute them however they want.
    There’s “how they want” and how it was posted to everyone, including a link to some fair ticketing thing I didn’t click. I’m not calling shenanigans, but people going 0-16 and others 7-8 just doesn’t seem lottery-ish. 
    ☝️
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Stargazer67
    Stargazer67 MA Posts: 19
    RiotAct10 said:
    Does anyone know... on Ticketmaster, if I am on more than one device, signed in to the same account, trying to get tickets to more than one show, at the same time, will it mess things up? Trying to get tickets to both Pitt shows and one of the Florida shows, and while I know F2F might end up being the answer, I would still like to try at 10 AM Friday, but trying to buy 3 shows at once will be tricky.
    Most definitely yes.  I would set up additional accounts if possible.

    We had to declare upfront how many and which shows we were planning to buy tickets for during the presale, so how/why would this pose a problem for TM?  It seems the credit card companies might be problematic again, though.
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,323
    I think the most shocking thing is how many people hit multiples and then how many people hit 0

    Its almost like they picked accounts instead of running individual show lotteries 

    Plus, everyone getting Raleigh GA 1 and Raleigh RES 2 hit simultaneously was odd, and is even more odd now
    I went 1 for 3, scoring Pittsburgh night 1 but missing out on both Nashville shows. I figured I might get Nashville but not Pittsburgh due to the expected demand for a weekend show and all of the Canadians and NE people who were going to try for the show. 🤷‍♂️ didn’t work that way. On to F2F for the Nashville shows. Maybe the Sunday Pittsburgh show too if we decide to hit that one too.