10C Lottery Results - May 2025 US

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I went one for two: 
FL 1 - Unfulfilled 
FL 2 - GA x 2

I am thrilled to win either, figuring that FL must be the toughest ticket. Maybe the toughest is actually Pittsburgh, but FL must've had the smallest pool of 10c tickets. 

Similar story last year. Went one for two trying to get the Wrigley Field shows. Prior to that, I went five for five in securing 10c tickets for the 2013, 2016, and 2018 Wrigley shows.

My preference is to bring back priority requests. Nothing else needs to be changed in my honest opinion. I think you''d see far less people winning seven out of eight shows, and far more people winning three or four shows. Each member should have a reasonably good chance of securing 10c tickets. 

mpedone

JimmyV said:

I have always thought, and this could be wrong, that the being prepared to buy all tickets language was a warning to people entering for multiple shows but only hoping to hit one. You might win more than one, don't enter for more than you are prepared to pay for. 

I have never believed that was telling me that if my name was drawn once I would be getting tickets to two, three, four (etc.) shows. 

I get that, but there are other indicators. TM uses language about "fulfilling your request" in multiple places, indicating that the request is an all-or-none deal. Then, there's the fact that if they only look at your most recent request, so if you changed your mind after submitting a request, and wanted to add more shows, you had to include the ones in your previous submission. None of this is definitive proof, but to me, this all sounds more like they're drawing member numbers and fulfilling requests, rather than picking member numbers show-by-show. 

KJ228171

Eddieredder said:

pjl44 said:

Douglas12373 said:

Maybe some folks don't see a lot of shows outside of PJ, but if you've been buying tickets post pandemic, it is very clear that demand has increased exponentially. A lot of folks got the FOMO bug post pandemic, and shows by popular acts, ESPECIALLY legacy acts, across the industry have seen significantly increased demand.

Another factor is that Gen Xers, the overwhelming majority of PJ fans, now are by and large empty nesters with more disposable income than they did 10 years ago, 20 years ago, etc. If you're in any of the PJ facebook groups, 3 out of every 4 posts is from someone who has been a fan for 30 years but couldn't ever see the band before because of kids/jobs/money/time/etc. They are all in the market now, with the pandemic kick in the ass that this might all go away again, and maybe for more than just 18 months.

Do you see how many people are paying $500+ to see AC/DC in 2024? A band that hasn't been popular in, I dunno, at least 30 years. Oasis barely filled theaters the last time they were in the US, now they are filling football stadiums.

The market has drastically changed, and as pointed out above several times, PJ plays a tiny fraction of the shows they used to play. Increased demand, decreased supply. I know its human nature to think you've been screwed if a fellow human has what you do not, but its just numbers.

System of a Down and Oasis are selling out stadiums. What a world.

Want more perspective. Creed pit tix

Oklahoma $150
New Orleans $220
Vegas $230
Palm Springs $275

Plus fees

The difference between them and PJ is frequency. It's hard to categorizes PJ as a touring band but they do tours in limited scope. System of a Down hasn't toured in years. Most thought they had broken up. Oasis was broken up but Noel needs the money post divorce and Liam had a very good Definitely Maybe Anniversary tour that showed there was demand. AC/DC is calling it a career after this. Metallica is probably the only outlier without out special circumstances getting top dollar. A lot of mid-tier bands are struggling to sell tickets.

on2legs

JojoRice said:

For what it's worth, here's the 2016 odds shortly before the lottery draw started.....I miss the days when 10c ran it. 

You still had people posting here that they were screwed by the lottery back then.    Simply too many fans and not enough shows.  

PJNB

on2legs said:

JojoRice said:

For what it's worth, here's the 2016 odds shortly before the lottery draw started.....I miss the days when 10c ran it. 

You still had people posting here that they were screwed by the lottery back then.    Simply too many fans and not enough shows.  

They were not screwed unfairly though. Everything was fair back then with priority and the odds given. If someone scored NY RES N1 with a priority pick #2 everyone that had it as a first pick got it as well. 

If you went heavy on low odd shows and GA at the top of your picks you rolled the dice and got nothing. 

Except Raleigh. Everyone got Raleigh RES lol

JojoRice

on2legs said:

JojoRice said:

For what it's worth, here's the 2016 odds shortly before the lottery draw started.....I miss the days when 10c ran it. 

You still had people posting here that they were screwed by the lottery back then.    Simply too many fans and not enough shows.  

Yea, but atleast we had data to go by and knew what our chances would be.  We don't have anything now. 

stones

There are several reasons TM Won't Tell (see what I did there?!) how this all works, it's just not in their interests to do that.  Firstly any system has flaws if you look hard enough and once known, people try and exploit those flaws; also they can change the system whenever they like to suit their own purposes and nobody can object, because nobody really knows.

on2legs

PJNB said:

on2legs said:

JojoRice said:

For what it's worth, here's the 2016 odds shortly before the lottery draw started.....I miss the days when 10c ran it. 

You still had people posting here that they were screwed by the lottery back then.    Simply too many fans and not enough shows.  

They were not screwed unfairly though. Everything was fair back then with priority and the odds given. If someone scored NY RES N1 with a priority pick #2 everyone that had it as a first pick got it as well. 

If you went heavy on low odd shows and GA at the top of your picks you rolled the dice and got nothing. 

Except Raleigh. Everyone got Raleigh RES lol

Agreed.  No judgements on the validity of the screwing.  Just that the volume of requests far exceeds the available tickets and led people to feel like they got screwed. Maybe one day soon we will get one final proper 50 date US Tour.  

darwinstheory

PJNB said:

on2legs said:

JojoRice said:

For what it's worth, here's the 2016 odds shortly before the lottery draw started.....I miss the days when 10c ran it. 

You still had people posting here that they were screwed by the lottery back then.    Simply too many fans and not enough shows.  

They were not screwed unfairly though. Everything was fair back then with priority and the odds given. If someone scored NY RES N1 with a priority pick #2 everyone that had it as a first pick got it as well. 

If you went heavy on low odd shows and GA at the top of your picks you rolled the dice and got nothing. 

Except Raleigh. Everyone got Raleigh RES lol

Preach!!! 

Where is that thread from February/March where we were saying all this and then some. Of course those who scored GA for both shows in multiple cities demanded that's just how random lotteries work and we were sore losers. 🤣

PJNB

darwinstheory said:

PJNB said:

on2legs said:

JojoRice said:

For what it's worth, here's the 2016 odds shortly before the lottery draw started.....I miss the days when 10c ran it. 

You still had people posting here that they were screwed by the lottery back then.    Simply too many fans and not enough shows.  

They were not screwed unfairly though. Everything was fair back then with priority and the odds given. If someone scored NY RES N1 with a priority pick #2 everyone that had it as a first pick got it as well. 

If you went heavy on low odd shows and GA at the top of your picks you rolled the dice and got nothing. 

Except Raleigh. Everyone got Raleigh RES lol

Preach!!! 

Where is that thread from February/March where we were saying all this and then some. Of course those who scored GA for both shows in multiple cities demanded that's just how random lotteries work and we were sore losers. 🤣

Oh, I’m definitely a sore loser lol

jdopj

I doubt even 10c has a clue how this all works at this point. 

DP40606

Got my night one Hollywood seating.  Sec 115, row L.  Further back than I expected.  10c number 179xxx.

Was rejected for night 2 Hollywood.

pjdavep

Spoken

Hi any idea when Artist Presale emails go out?
If we are selected...

PrezIntense

My favorite two types of people on this thread:

1. People who obviously have no idea how statistics work using anecdotal evidence to make sweeping claims about the validity of the draw's randomness.
2. People saying things like "last time I went 10/10 and this time I went 0/6" while apparently only thinking the second part of that claim is problematic.

on2legs

JojoRice said:

on2legs said:

JojoRice said:

For what it's worth, here's the 2016 odds shortly before the lottery draw started.....I miss the days when 10c ran it. 

You still had people posting here that they were screwed by the lottery back then.    Simply too many fans and not enough shows.  

Yea, but atleast we had data to go by and knew what our chances would be.  We don't have anything now. 

True.  I think I just assume that the odds are always against getting tickets. I’m probably 50/50 over the years in the various forms of ticket lotteries.  As opposed to the old days of getting the tickets directly off the ten club website where I had a 100% success rate.  If there is any system I’d like them to bring back it’s that one. 😂

Kwieneke

Spoken said:

Hi any idea when Artist Presale emails go out?
If we are selected...

you do not have to be selected if you signed up. its a new format 

blairs1

Got my seat for FLL 1 - 205 Row J - 689xxx (iirc).

aisleseats

Spoken said:

Hi any idea when Artist Presale emails go out?
If we are selected...

I don't believe there is any selecting anymore. If you signed up, you can enter the queue and try to get tickets.

Spoken

aisleseats said:

Spoken said:

Hi any idea when Artist Presale emails go out?
If we are selected...

I don't believe there is any selecting anymore. If you signed up, you can enter the queue and try to get tickets.

Kwieneke said:

Spoken said:

Hi any idea when Artist Presale emails go out?
If we are selected...

you do not have to be selected if you signed up. its a new format 

OMG really? It's gonna be a shit show at 10 AM then...
But we did have to pick which shows or show we wanted to go to..?

BV84003

Spoken said:

aisleseats said:

Spoken said:

Hi any idea when Artist Presale emails go out?
If we are selected...

I don't believe there is any selecting anymore. If you signed up, you can enter the queue and try to get tickets.

Kwieneke said:

Spoken said:

Hi any idea when Artist Presale emails go out?
If we are selected...

you do not have to be selected if you signed up. its a new format 

OMG really? It's gonna be a shit show at 10 AM then...
But we did have to pick which shows or show we wanted to go to..?

yeah, it was a max limit of 5 shows