The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread
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PJNB said:
That was after the April 1st teaser video though. We knew all the dates before that was released.Lost In Ohio said:RatherStarved said:
Facemeltor is great. I have heard occasional tips from others that have been right. And when a total unknown posts possible Atlanta dates I’m not going to risk any money on it but would I book a room I could later cancel? You bet!just_one said:
Only person reliable nowadays is Facemeltor and he´s been silent.RatherStarved said:
Dimitris no longer says anything but i bet he knows for sure
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/7659343#Comment_7659343
With that said, I'm certainly not an insider, but I also didn't just get lucky.
I remember the guesses being moreso Dallas. Then again, I tend to pay more attention when they come nearer to me.
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Bunting10 said:
Cubs? I thought no Chicago? Haha.Lost In Ohio said:100 Pacer said:
I’m not sure I understand your comment re: “venues don’t know anything the exception being what they do know” because holds for venues are made 6-9 months in advance and the venues sign NDAs.Lost In Ohio said:Another important thing:
99.99% of people in team front offices don't know anything that isn't already public. The exception is what they know, but obviously can't tell random callers...just like anyone else with their job.
Even if you (the reader here) know something about your job, maybe you've been sworn to secrecy where you can't even tell your family until a certain date.
...I feel like we're about to reach the phase where fans call up ticket reps.
The employees...the ticket representatives probably don't know anything.
If/when they do, they're not gonna tell the public. They *may* tell close confidants, but if I call up some FO somewhere and say that I heard a rumor about ______, they're just gonna point me to the website or Ticketmaster.
"Hey, FO representative. I heard you're real close to signing ______ to a new contract. Is this true?"
They're gonna have no comment other than "read the website" or "I've heard similar and I hope so." In other words, a hot bunch of nothing.
And yeah, the employees may occasionally get inside info about "this is about to be announced real soon" but they're not gonna tell anyone. I've known inside info for other things, but could only talk about it with other staff/insiders at those places.
Example: Years ago, I once heard inside info about a coach who was "going to be fired within 2-3 games." I couldn't tell anyone, but I had that hot tip.
In other words, calling up the Pistons/Cubs/Penguins/Saints/Texans FO and asking about "Pearl Jam on ______ 18th" they're gonna say "that's a new one."Detroit, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Houston, Cleveland, Milwaukee all sound interesting.Maybe you should edit the original message from Cubs to Bucks?
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100 Pacer said:
No one has suggested asking employees at venues. You’ve entertained the notion only to state you’d get the silent treatment. Again I’ll state the venues on hold are aware who’s placed the holds at their venues and no they aren’t risking their NDAs to confirm if someone “phones to ask.” This entire scenario is something you’ve imagined up as some sort of quasi reaffirmation not to question your assumptions/guesses because, as you’ve linked to, you’ve made prior assumptions/guesses based on available datapoints at the time. May all your assumptions and guesses be true. Toronto is happening and that’s not an assumption or guess.Lost In Ohio said:100 Pacer said:
I’m not sure I understand your comment re: “venues don’t know anything the exception being what they do know” because holds for venues are made 6-9 months in advance and the venues sign NDAs.Lost In Ohio said:Another important thing:
99.99% of people in team front offices don't know anything that isn't already public. The exception is what they know, but obviously can't tell random callers...just like anyone else with their job.
Even if you (the reader here) know something about your job, maybe you've been sworn to secrecy where you can't even tell your family until a certain date.
...I feel like we're about to reach the phase where fans call up ticket reps.
The employees...the ticket representatives probably don't know anything.
If/when they do, they're not gonna tell the public. They *may* tell close confidants, but if I call up some FO somewhere and say that I heard a rumor about ______, they're just gonna point me to the website or Ticketmaster.
"Hey, FO representative. I heard you're real close to signing ______ to a new contract. Is this true?"
They're gonna have no comment other than "read the website" or "I've heard similar and I hope so." In other words, a hot bunch of nothing.
And yeah, the employees may occasionally get inside info about "this is about to be announced real soon" but they're not gonna tell anyone. I've known inside info for other things, but could only talk about it with other staff/insiders at those places.
Example: Years ago, I once heard inside info about a coach who was "going to be fired within 2-3 games." I couldn't tell anyone, but I had that hot tip.
In other words, calling up the Pistons/Cubs/Penguins/Saints/Texans FO and asking about "Pearl Jam on ______ 18th" they're gonna say "that's a new one."
True, nobody has suggested it.
But it wouldn't surprise me if someone took it upon themselves to call.
You're right though. The venues do know. I think we can all agree that if someone blabbed to anyone but a trusted confidant, they'd get whatever they deserved.
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OkLost In Ohio said:Bunting10 said:
Cubs? I thought no Chicago? Haha.Lost In Ohio said:100 Pacer said:
I’m not sure I understand your comment re: “venues don’t know anything the exception being what they do know” because holds for venues are made 6-9 months in advance and the venues sign NDAs.Lost In Ohio said:Another important thing:
99.99% of people in team front offices don't know anything that isn't already public. The exception is what they know, but obviously can't tell random callers...just like anyone else with their job.
Even if you (the reader here) know something about your job, maybe you've been sworn to secrecy where you can't even tell your family until a certain date.
...I feel like we're about to reach the phase where fans call up ticket reps.
The employees...the ticket representatives probably don't know anything.
If/when they do, they're not gonna tell the public. They *may* tell close confidants, but if I call up some FO somewhere and say that I heard a rumor about ______, they're just gonna point me to the website or Ticketmaster.
"Hey, FO representative. I heard you're real close to signing ______ to a new contract. Is this true?"
They're gonna have no comment other than "read the website" or "I've heard similar and I hope so." In other words, a hot bunch of nothing.
And yeah, the employees may occasionally get inside info about "this is about to be announced real soon" but they're not gonna tell anyone. I've known inside info for other things, but could only talk about it with other staff/insiders at those places.
Example: Years ago, I once heard inside info about a coach who was "going to be fired within 2-3 games." I couldn't tell anyone, but I had that hot tip.
In other words, calling up the Pistons/Cubs/Penguins/Saints/Texans FO and asking about "Pearl Jam on ______ 18th" they're gonna say "that's a new one."Detroit, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Houston, Cleveland, Milwaukee all sound interesting.Maybe you should edit the original message from Cubs to Bucks?
Those were all random cities as examples1998: Mansfield, MA (9/15)
2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
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100 Pacer said:
No one has suggested asking employees at venues. You’ve entertained the notion only to state you’d get the silent treatment. Again I’ll state the venues on hold are aware who’s placed the holds at their venues and no they aren’t risking their NDAs to confirm if someone “phones to ask.” This entire scenario is something you’ve imagined up as some sort of quasi reaffirmation not to question your assumptions/guesses because, as you’ve linked to, you’ve made prior assumptions/guesses based on available datapoints at the time. May all your assumptions and guesses be true. Toronto is happening and that’s not an assumption or guess.Lost In Ohio said:100 Pacer said:
I’m not sure I understand your comment re: “venues don’t know anything the exception being what they do know” because holds for venues are made 6-9 months in advance and the venues sign NDAs.Lost In Ohio said:Another important thing:
99.99% of people in team front offices don't know anything that isn't already public. The exception is what they know, but obviously can't tell random callers...just like anyone else with their job.
Even if you (the reader here) know something about your job, maybe you've been sworn to secrecy where you can't even tell your family until a certain date.
...I feel like we're about to reach the phase where fans call up ticket reps.
The employees...the ticket representatives probably don't know anything.
If/when they do, they're not gonna tell the public. They *may* tell close confidants, but if I call up some FO somewhere and say that I heard a rumor about ______, they're just gonna point me to the website or Ticketmaster.
"Hey, FO representative. I heard you're real close to signing ______ to a new contract. Is this true?"
They're gonna have no comment other than "read the website" or "I've heard similar and I hope so." In other words, a hot bunch of nothing.
And yeah, the employees may occasionally get inside info about "this is about to be announced real soon" but they're not gonna tell anyone. I've known inside info for other things, but could only talk about it with other staff/insiders at those places.
Example: Years ago, I once heard inside info about a coach who was "going to be fired within 2-3 games." I couldn't tell anyone, but I had that hot tip.
In other words, calling up the Pistons/Cubs/Penguins/Saints/Texans FO and asking about "Pearl Jam on ______ 18th" they're gonna say "that's a new one."
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Is the other venue north or south of downtown?darylweber said:May have jumped the gun on State Farm… appears there are holds on 2 venues in Atlanta Praying it’s State Farm vs the other"I got memories, I got shit"0 -
The only front office you need to call in New Orleans is Derrek Carrs and ask him why he’s such a shitty quarterback0
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what's the other?darylweber said:May have jumped the gun on State Farm… appears there are holds on 2 venues in Atlanta Praying it’s State Farm vs the other0 -
I need an excuse to visit Hawaii...
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The only night in Toronto I definitely can't do is May 10th, so you guys might as well just assume that is the date and book your hotel rooms.100 Pacer said:
No one has suggested asking employees at venues. You’ve entertained the notion only to state you’d get the silent treatment. Again I’ll state the venues on hold are aware who’s placed the holds at their venues and no they aren’t risking their NDAs to confirm if someone “phones to ask.” This entire scenario is something you’ve imagined up as some sort of quasi reaffirmation not to question your assumptions/guesses because, as you’ve linked to, you’ve made prior assumptions/guesses based on available datapoints at the time. May all your assumptions and guesses be true. Toronto is happening and that’s not an assumption or guess.Lost In Ohio said:100 Pacer said:
I’m not sure I understand your comment re: “venues don’t know anything the exception being what they do know” because holds for venues are made 6-9 months in advance and the venues sign NDAs.Lost In Ohio said:Another important thing:
99.99% of people in team front offices don't know anything that isn't already public. The exception is what they know, but obviously can't tell random callers...just like anyone else with their job.
Even if you (the reader here) know something about your job, maybe you've been sworn to secrecy where you can't even tell your family until a certain date.
...I feel like we're about to reach the phase where fans call up ticket reps.
The employees...the ticket representatives probably don't know anything.
If/when they do, they're not gonna tell the public. They *may* tell close confidants, but if I call up some FO somewhere and say that I heard a rumor about ______, they're just gonna point me to the website or Ticketmaster.
"Hey, FO representative. I heard you're real close to signing ______ to a new contract. Is this true?"
They're gonna have no comment other than "read the website" or "I've heard similar and I hope so." In other words, a hot bunch of nothing.
And yeah, the employees may occasionally get inside info about "this is about to be announced real soon" but they're not gonna tell anyone. I've known inside info for other things, but could only talk about it with other staff/insiders at those places.
Example: Years ago, I once heard inside info about a coach who was "going to be fired within 2-3 games." I couldn't tell anyone, but I had that hot tip.
In other words, calling up the Pistons/Cubs/Penguins/Saints/Texans FO and asking about "Pearl Jam on ______ 18th" they're gonna say "that's a new one."
On the plus side, my niece's dance recital gonna be lit af.
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They have played at least two past May 10th’s in Toronto.kaw753 said:
The only night in Toronto I definitely can't do is May 10th, so you guys might as well just assume that is the date and book your hotel rooms.100 Pacer said:
No one has suggested asking employees at venues. You’ve entertained the notion only to state you’d get the silent treatment. Again I’ll state the venues on hold are aware who’s placed the holds at their venues and no they aren’t risking their NDAs to confirm if someone “phones to ask.” This entire scenario is something you’ve imagined up as some sort of quasi reaffirmation not to question your assumptions/guesses because, as you’ve linked to, you’ve made prior assumptions/guesses based on available datapoints at the time. May all your assumptions and guesses be true. Toronto is happening and that’s not an assumption or guess.Lost In Ohio said:100 Pacer said:
I’m not sure I understand your comment re: “venues don’t know anything the exception being what they do know” because holds for venues are made 6-9 months in advance and the venues sign NDAs.Lost In Ohio said:Another important thing:
99.99% of people in team front offices don't know anything that isn't already public. The exception is what they know, but obviously can't tell random callers...just like anyone else with their job.
Even if you (the reader here) know something about your job, maybe you've been sworn to secrecy where you can't even tell your family until a certain date.
...I feel like we're about to reach the phase where fans call up ticket reps.
The employees...the ticket representatives probably don't know anything.
If/when they do, they're not gonna tell the public. They *may* tell close confidants, but if I call up some FO somewhere and say that I heard a rumor about ______, they're just gonna point me to the website or Ticketmaster.
"Hey, FO representative. I heard you're real close to signing ______ to a new contract. Is this true?"
They're gonna have no comment other than "read the website" or "I've heard similar and I hope so." In other words, a hot bunch of nothing.
And yeah, the employees may occasionally get inside info about "this is about to be announced real soon" but they're not gonna tell anyone. I've known inside info for other things, but could only talk about it with other staff/insiders at those places.
Example: Years ago, I once heard inside info about a coach who was "going to be fired within 2-3 games." I couldn't tell anyone, but I had that hot tip.
In other words, calling up the Pistons/Cubs/Penguins/Saints/Texans FO and asking about "Pearl Jam on ______ 18th" they're gonna say "that's a new one."
On the plus side, my niece's dance recital gonna be lit af.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
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SandyRavage said:The only front office you need to call in New Orleans is Derrek Carrs and ask him why he’s such a shitty quarterback
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From the November newsletter:
"You can find your renewal date listed on your Membership Page in your account. Please set a reminder & also look for an email notification at the time of your renewal. We wouldn't want you to miss out on anything!"Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 -
I noticed that as well. Wooo!!Lost In Ohio said:From the November newsletter:
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Saw that0
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Hopefully it won't be like the last tour announcement when they had a similar note on like 4 months of emails prior."A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0
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Well actually they hadn’t. First membership reminder was in December 2023. Just days before the announcement for NOS Alive and Mad Cool.darwinstheory said:Hopefully it won't be like the last tour announcement when they had a similar note on like 4 months of emails prior.
So I‘d say the rumored NA dates in May (Toronto, Atlanta) can‘t be the reason for the reminder.
Is this for European shows after all? Lot‘s of European festivals announcing lineups and going on sale in the next few weeks.
EDIT: Did we ever have a reminder with no tour or festival announcement in the 4 weeks after? If no, what could it be this time?Post edited by JackD. on0 -
Although being announced for a festival is pretty much confirmation of a tour which is good, I really hope it doesn't dictate the announcement time of the full tour.
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