** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

seanwon said:

eeriepadave said:

Anyone think that Trump could have rigged/tampered the election results, especially in "the swing states" like PA and MI? Thought crossed my mind and I was talking to my mom and she actually thinks the same thing . She thinks the truth will come out before January that him, Musk and the Russians/Putin tampered with the election. I wouldn't put it past him but I'm not sure. I hope this happens but we shall see.

Well look at this. Suddenly the election is rigged if your person doesn't win. These MAGA idiots are unreal, they are brainwashed and can't accep.....oh wait.  Never mind

hahaha. one person, ONE, brings up the possibility, with a bunch of people answering "no", and it's the same as being bombarded for 4 fucking years by those maga morons and the former prez and people trying to overthrow democracy. 

you're trying a little TOO hard to paint liberals as the problem here. it's pathetic. 

I hate the post-truth era.

Lol.



(from The Atlantic)

pjl44 said:

Post-truth like the insistence that the race was lost due to racism and sexism when damn near every metric points to the opposite 

Due solely to it, no, a factor in it, yes. No need to dismiss that those issues still exist and were a factor against her. I mean, c'mon. People openly stated those things and Trump used that at several rallies and during interviews to push people away from her.

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

eeriepadave said:

Anyone think that Trump could have rigged/tampered the election results, especially in "the swing states" like PA and MI? Thought crossed my mind and I was talking to my mom and she actually thinks the same thing . She thinks the truth will come out before January that him, Musk and the Russians/Putin tampered with the election. I wouldn't put it past him but I'm not sure. I hope this happens but we shall see.

Russia definitely tampered but I think it was more misinformation rather than rigging results.

Unfortunately I think the right just did a better job of motivating GenZ males....maybe the dems focused too much on the females

They did/do a fantastic job of keeping their voters misinformed about what is actually happening. We see it all the time in these very threads. This is pretty sad stuff. I don't know how these people are able to be reached. They just avoid reality at all costs. 

& some will die on the hill that democrats' messaging about one of these issues is why they lost. 

We're so fucked. 

Well they have never been good at messaging. I think they should have done a much better job starting from 3 years ago in explaining why inflation was happening and beating the drum that it was affecting the entire world. If they did a better job at informing people about that from the get go, at least some portion of these voters would've have rightly given them credit for mitigating it better than any other country. The media deserves TONS of blame for not doing this as well. Ultimately a lot of this comes down to education. It's no surprise that Trump loves the poorly educated. They are everyone in this country, sadly. 

I'm wondering what all these dopes are gonna say in a few years when they realize the cost of their bacon is even higher than it was today. lol

I agree, democrats have a major problem with messaging, I just think it's absurd to point at it as the singular problem why they lost (Not that you were saying that).

One thing they missed big was the trans issue. Clearly it's a big one for a lot of Americans, and shouldn't have been glossed over. IDK how they could have tackled it, but ignoring it was a mistake. 

Democrats fucked up bigtime, no doubt, but there was no shortage of other issues that cost them this election. 

It's just been a loaded question from the right though hasn't it? A non-issue that is made an issue.

In Indiana...gov-elect Braun got called out in a debate for running ads saying McCormick (dem nominee) wanted to allow "males to compete in women's sports"...She never supported that. No one does. She called him out for the lie and up until Tuesday night the ads were still running.

Or the ad showing Harris saying prisoners should get sex change operations...a bill produced during the trump admin

Just bullshit. 

But it is happening. Maybe not in every school, but there are biological males that play agains females. So how is it a non issue? Maybe blown up to be a bigger problem than it is, but it's not a non-issue. Pretending it's a non-issue was part of the problem. 

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

eeriepadave said:

Anyone think that Trump could have rigged/tampered the election results, especially in "the swing states" like PA and MI? Thought crossed my mind and I was talking to my mom and she actually thinks the same thing . She thinks the truth will come out before January that him, Musk and the Russians/Putin tampered with the election. I wouldn't put it past him but I'm not sure. I hope this happens but we shall see.

Russia definitely tampered but I think it was more misinformation rather than rigging results.

Unfortunately I think the right just did a better job of motivating GenZ males....maybe the dems focused too much on the females

They did/do a fantastic job of keeping their voters misinformed about what is actually happening. We see it all the time in these very threads. This is pretty sad stuff. I don't know how these people are able to be reached. They just avoid reality at all costs. 

& some will die on the hill that democrats' messaging about one of these issues is why they lost. 

We're so fucked. 

Well they have never been good at messaging. I think they should have done a much better job starting from 3 years ago in explaining why inflation was happening and beating the drum that it was affecting the entire world. If they did a better job at informing people about that from the get go, at least some portion of these voters would've have rightly given them credit for mitigating it better than any other country. The media deserves TONS of blame for not doing this as well. Ultimately a lot of this comes down to education. It's no surprise that Trump loves the poorly educated. They are everyone in this country, sadly. 

I'm wondering what all these dopes are gonna say in a few years when they realize the cost of their bacon is even higher than it was today. lol

I agree, democrats have a major problem with messaging, I just think it's absurd to point at it as the singular problem why they lost (Not that you were saying that).

One thing they missed big was the trans issue. Clearly it's a big one for a lot of Americans, and shouldn't have been glossed over. IDK how they could have tackled it, but ignoring it was a mistake. 

Democrats fucked up bigtime, no doubt, but there was no shortage of other issues that cost them this election. 

It's just been a loaded question from the right though hasn't it? A non-issue that is made an issue.

In Indiana...gov-elect Braun got called out in a debate for running ads saying McCormick (dem nominee) wanted to allow "males to compete in women's sports"...She never supported that. No one does. She called him out for the lie and up until Tuesday night the ads were still running.

Or the ad showing Harris saying prisoners should get sex change operations...a bill produced during the trump admin

Just bullshit. 

But it is happening. Maybe not in every school, but there are biological males that play agains females. So how is it a non issue? Maybe blown up to be a bigger problem than it is, but it's not a non-issue. Pretending it's a non-issue was part of the problem. 

example?

but my point was the accusation was made without merit or evidence

This story made national news. You never heard of it?
https://wlos.com/news/local/volleyball-player-injured-after-transgender-opponent-spiked-ball-at-her-speaks-out

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

eeriepadave said:

Anyone think that Trump could have rigged/tampered the election results, especially in "the swing states" like PA and MI? Thought crossed my mind and I was talking to my mom and she actually thinks the same thing . She thinks the truth will come out before January that him, Musk and the Russians/Putin tampered with the election. I wouldn't put it past him but I'm not sure. I hope this happens but we shall see.

Russia definitely tampered but I think it was more misinformation rather than rigging results.

Unfortunately I think the right just did a better job of motivating GenZ males....maybe the dems focused too much on the females

They did/do a fantastic job of keeping their voters misinformed about what is actually happening. We see it all the time in these very threads. This is pretty sad stuff. I don't know how these people are able to be reached. They just avoid reality at all costs. 

& some will die on the hill that democrats' messaging about one of these issues is why they lost. 

We're so fucked. 

Well they have never been good at messaging. I think they should have done a much better job starting from 3 years ago in explaining why inflation was happening and beating the drum that it was affecting the entire world. If they did a better job at informing people about that from the get go, at least some portion of these voters would've have rightly given them credit for mitigating it better than any other country. The media deserves TONS of blame for not doing this as well. Ultimately a lot of this comes down to education. It's no surprise that Trump loves the poorly educated. They are everyone in this country, sadly. 

I'm wondering what all these dopes are gonna say in a few years when they realize the cost of their bacon is even higher than it was today. lol

I agree, democrats have a major problem with messaging, I just think it's absurd to point at it as the singular problem why they lost (Not that you were saying that).

One thing they missed big was the trans issue. Clearly it's a big one for a lot of Americans, and shouldn't have been glossed over. IDK how they could have tackled it, but ignoring it was a mistake. 

Democrats fucked up bigtime, no doubt, but there was no shortage of other issues that cost them this election. 

It's just been a loaded question from the right though hasn't it? A non-issue that is made an issue.

In Indiana...gov-elect Braun got called out in a debate for running ads saying McCormick (dem nominee) wanted to allow "males to compete in women's sports"...She never supported that. No one does. She called him out for the lie and up until Tuesday night the ads were still running.

Or the ad showing Harris saying prisoners should get sex change operations...a bill produced during the trump admin

Just bullshit. 

But it is happening. Maybe not in every school, but there are biological males that play agains females. So how is it a non issue? Maybe blown up to be a bigger problem than it is, but it's not a non-issue. Pretending it's a non-issue was part of the problem. 

example?

but my point was the accusation was made without merit or evidence

This story made national news. You never heard of it?
https://wlos.com/news/local/volleyball-player-injured-after-transgender-opponent-spiked-ball-at-her-speaks-out

says "alleged"...so was it a male or no?

Her story was everywhere when it happened. Google her name.
https://www.iwf.org/female-athlete-stories/payton-mcnabb/
On September 1, 2022, during a volleyball game against a rival North Carolina high school, 17-year-old Payton McNabb received a devastating head and neck injury as the result of a spike by a male athlete who identified as transgender.
Have you really never heard of any of these stories? Lia Thomas? College team forfeiting because they didn't want to play against biological males in a tournament?
like I said, it may not be an every school thing, but it definitely happens. 

https://cbn.com/news/us/christian-school-banned-and-blacklisted-after-girls-team-forfeits-game-over-trans-opponent
I heard of that story a while ago when it happened, didn't know they got banned for it until just now. Not only did they forfeit the tournament, the whole school was kicked out of the sports organization for refusing to play against a biological male. So I guess you pick between breaking your neck or getting kicked out? 

And we only hear about the stories that have a big consequence, like major injury or shattering records. I'm sure it happens every day that we don't hear about it. 

tbergs said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

eeriepadave said:

Anyone think that Trump could have rigged/tampered the election results, especially in "the swing states" like PA and MI? Thought crossed my mind and I was talking to my mom and she actually thinks the same thing . She thinks the truth will come out before January that him, Musk and the Russians/Putin tampered with the election. I wouldn't put it past him but I'm not sure. I hope this happens but we shall see.

Russia definitely tampered but I think it was more misinformation rather than rigging results.

Unfortunately I think the right just did a better job of motivating GenZ males....maybe the dems focused too much on the females

They did/do a fantastic job of keeping their voters misinformed about what is actually happening. We see it all the time in these very threads. This is pretty sad stuff. I don't know how these people are able to be reached. They just avoid reality at all costs. 

& some will die on the hill that democrats' messaging about one of these issues is why they lost. 

We're so fucked. 

Well they have never been good at messaging. I think they should have done a much better job starting from 3 years ago in explaining why inflation was happening and beating the drum that it was affecting the entire world. If they did a better job at informing people about that from the get go, at least some portion of these voters would've have rightly given them credit for mitigating it better than any other country. The media deserves TONS of blame for not doing this as well. Ultimately a lot of this comes down to education. It's no surprise that Trump loves the poorly educated. They are everyone in this country, sadly. 

I'm wondering what all these dopes are gonna say in a few years when they realize the cost of their bacon is even higher than it was today. lol

I agree, democrats have a major problem with messaging, I just think it's absurd to point at it as the singular problem why they lost (Not that you were saying that).

One thing they missed big was the trans issue. Clearly it's a big one for a lot of Americans, and shouldn't have been glossed over. IDK how they could have tackled it, but ignoring it was a mistake. 

Democrats fucked up bigtime, no doubt, but there was no shortage of other issues that cost them this election. 

It's just been a loaded question from the right though hasn't it? A non-issue that is made an issue.

In Indiana...gov-elect Braun got called out in a debate for running ads saying McCormick (dem nominee) wanted to allow "males to compete in women's sports"...She never supported that. No one does. She called him out for the lie and up until Tuesday night the ads were still running.

Or the ad showing Harris saying prisoners should get sex change operations...a bill produced during the trump admin

Just bullshit. 

But it is happening. Maybe not in every school, but there are biological males that play agains females. So how is it a non issue? Maybe blown up to be a bigger problem than it is, but it's not a non-issue. Pretending it's a non-issue was part of the problem. 

example?

but my point was the accusation was made without merit or evidence

This story made national news. You never heard of it?
https://wlos.com/news/local/volleyball-player-injured-after-transgender-opponent-spiked-ball-at-her-speaks-out

says "alleged"...so was it a male or no?

Her story was everywhere when it happened. Google her name.
https://www.iwf.org/female-athlete-stories/payton-mcnabb/
On September 1, 2022, during a volleyball game against a rival North Carolina high school, 17-year-old Payton McNabb received a devastating head and neck injury as the result of a spike by a male athlete who identified as transgender.
Have you really never heard of any of these stories? Lia Thomas? College team forfeiting because they didn't want to play against biological males in a tournament?
like I said, it may not be an every school thing, but it definitely happens. 

https://cbn.com/news/us/christian-school-banned-and-blacklisted-after-girls-team-forfeits-game-over-trans-opponent
I heard of that story a while ago when it happened, didn't know they got banned for it until just now. Not only did they forfeit the tournament, the whole school was kicked out of the sports organization for refusing to play against a biological male. So I guess you pick between breaking your neck or getting kicked out? 

And we only hear about the stories that have a big consequence, like major injury or shattering records. I'm sure it happens every day that we don't hear about it. 

A lot of people are saying...

LOL yeah there's very few trans athletes so whatever 

Theo Von just told Joe Rogan that Kamala is/was a rollerskater. If she would have been on Joe Rogan maybe the whole of USA would have learnt that. And not just seen ”a politician” and whatever rightwing media shaped her into. 

Get_Right said:

Big politics is a business. It is not about policy. Policy in an election year is just a speech on a given day to a given audience. It is about how many votes can be won. Trump's marketing was better. That and the hate speech towards those that questioned current Democratic leadership tuned the tide. There will always be red and blue, it's the middle that matters and the Dems shit the bed on this one.

If a person leaves the Paris Accords a non-idiot wouldn’t vote for that person though.

No matter the ”marketing”