Doug Emhoff Joins Eddie and Jeff on Pearl Jam Radio

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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    ejk1280 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    ejk1280 said:
    Wait who is protecting democracy?  Only one candidate was anointed with zero primary votes.  This is hilarious. 
    You talking about the candidate who made up a lie about the election being stolen, who tried to find votes illegally, who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power, who tried to get fake electors in the swing states, who almost got his VP killed , who lies , cries and moans about his problems and is a convicted felon and racist, you mean that guy? 
    He’s certainly not perfect.. far from it actually.  But at least he’s legitimate.  The day we let a political party select their candidate is the day we let democracy die.  
    You are dead wrong. For most of the history of this country, the parties selected the candidates. Primaries were non-existent until the 20th century, and primaries did not determine a majority of a party's convention delegates until the 1970s. To learn more about this, check out https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/a-brief-history-of-presidential-primaries.

    Stop making this specious argument. Trump tried to steal the election. He sanctioned fake electors. He instructed the Georgia secretary of state to "find" non-existent votes. You cannot credibly claim that he is the candidate that stands for "democracy." It is even more ironic to do so because the only reason he was elected once is that the way in which we elect our presidents is *not* democratic. He won without earning even a plurality of the vote in a presidential election. (He didn't reach 47 percent of the vote in either election.)
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
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    BF25394 said:
    ejk1280 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    ejk1280 said:
    Wait who is protecting democracy?  Only one candidate was anointed with zero primary votes.  This is hilarious. 
    You talking about the candidate who made up a lie about the election being stolen, who tried to find votes illegally, who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power, who tried to get fake electors in the swing states, who almost got his VP killed , who lies , cries and moans about his problems and is a convicted felon and racist, you mean that guy? 
    He’s certainly not perfect.. far from it actually.  But at least he’s legitimate.  The day we let a political party select their candidate is the day we let democracy die.  
    You are dead wrong. For most of the history of this country, the parties selected the candidates. Primaries were non-existent until the 20th century, and primaries did not determine a majority of a party's convention delegates until the 1970s. To learn more about this, check out https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/a-brief-history-of-presidential-primaries.

    Stop making this specious argument. Trump tried to steal the election. He sanctioned fake electors. He instructed the Georgia secretary of state to "find" non-existent votes. You cannot credibly claim that he is the candidate that stands for "democracy." It is even more ironic to do so because the only reason he was elected once is that the way in which we elect our presidents is *not* democratic. He won without earning even a plurality of the vote in a presidential election. (He didn't reach 47 percent of the vote in either election.)
    Well said!!!
  • bootleg
    bootleg Posts: 1,209
    No one candidate is ever going to align with all of my views on every subject.  But there is such a vast difference between the quality of the candidates I don’t even understand how it’s close.  Trump is such a simple, obvious, con man and it saddens me that this many people have fallen for his grift.  Do I agree with all of Kamala’s views, nope but it’s like if you had a choice to eat a cheeseburger or a pile of dog shit, and your like “but does the cheeseburger has pickles on it?”
  • DM282158
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    On one hand, these threads are never not entertaining. On the other, as always, AMT sucks. 
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  • Spunkie
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    BF25394 said:
    ejk1280 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    ejk1280 said:
    Wait who is protecting democracy?  Only one candidate was anointed with zero primary votes.  This is hilarious. 
    You talking about the candidate who made up a lie about the election being stolen, who tried to find votes illegally, who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power, who tried to get fake electors in the swing states, who almost got his VP killed , who lies , cries and moans about his problems and is a convicted felon and racist, you mean that guy? 
    He’s certainly not perfect.. far from it actually.  But at least he’s legitimate.  The day we let a political party select their candidate is the day we let democracy die.  
    You are dead wrong. For most of the history of this country, the parties selected the candidates. Primaries were non-existent until the 20th century, and primaries did not determine a majority of a party's convention delegates until the 1970s. To learn more about this, check out https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/a-brief-history-of-presidential-primaries.

    Stop making this specious argument. Trump tried to steal the election. He sanctioned fake electors. He instructed the Georgia secretary of state to "find" non-existent votes. You cannot credibly claim that he is the candidate that stands for "democracy." It is even more ironic to do so because the only reason he was elected once is that the way in which we elect our presidents is *not* democratic. He won without earning even a plurality of the vote in a presidential election. (He didn't reach 47 percent of the vote in either election.)
     
    "Specious argument" - Man, you're vocabulary turns me on!
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  • devonfz
    devonfz Posts: 181
    I wish we could go back to Pearl Jam just being about Pearl Jam 
  • axeljohan
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    devonfz said:
    I wish we could go back to Pearl Jam just being about Pearl Jam 
    When exactly was that time? Did you see the word, Eddie wrote on his arm while performing Porch on MTV Unplugged?
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    It’s also not a coincidence that McDonald’s had an E. coli outbreak after Trump faked worked there one day serving French fries to paid actors. Rumor has it Trump has vowed to deport all French fries if he is re elected. Make McDonald’s Great Again he posted on X. 
  • pjhawks
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    bootlegger10 said:
    He is campaigning for his wife like any other person on the campaign team.  Ed and Jeff want her to win so they interview someone on her campaign that happens to be her husband.  The husband of a VP is more well known as well than some campaign surrogate.
    And he was at the Philly 1 show so i imagine they met him there.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    axeljohan said:
    devonfz said:
    I wish we could go back to Pearl Jam just being about Pearl Jam 
    When exactly was that time? Did you see the word, Eddie wrote on his arm while performing Porch on MTV Unplugged?
    I saw Neil Young in 2010 and he was playing Le Noise songs. Afterwards waiting for a trolley this guy goes "I wish he didn't do all that political stuff." Jeez, like Ohio or "look at mother nature on the run in the 1970s". These people must live under rocks.
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  • bootlegger10
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    Gern Blansten said:
    KH184800 said:
    Surprised? You shouldn’t be. When PJ supports establishment, anti-free speech candidates, you know the world is upside down. Eddie has daughters, and is pro-woman, which is great, but when you fall in love with a side that is now anti-woman (transgenders in women sports), you have, as Fonzie did, Jumped then shark. Emhoff assaulted his ex-girlfriend, and got his nanny pregnant. You don’t have to like Trump, but when you become so famous and isolated, this is what happens. You look past all the things you hate, and beome the things you hate. BTW, PJ is a big part of my life, I’m just sad it’s come to this
    LOL...anti free speech? Let me guess..you are a trump supporter even though he's talking about taking licenses away from major news networks?

    The assault allegations seem weak to me. He supposedly slapped her and she slapped him back. Unfortunate but not really anything criminal and his ex wife has nothing but good things to say.

    But you keep supporting the guy that rapes women! MAGA! Murikka!
    Grown man. Father. Previously divorced.  Spots girlfriend talking to other guy.   Decides that is not cool and walks up and slaps her.  This is not normal behavior.   You seem to equate her slapping him back as making things even.   

    It seems like he was a creep in his law firm days and I've not even mentioned yet him thinking it was a good idea to have an affair with his kids' nanny/teacher.  If he wasn't married to Kamala you would think he was a creep.  

    Sure, compare everyone to Trump, Epstein, Weinstein and they look like saints.  But don't excuse bad behavior because they aren't as egregious as others.   It is great Ed stands up for women at the concerts, but it is disappointing to see them then talk with a man who has such little respect for them.  

     
  • Jimmydean55
    Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,563
    So I take it you go take a piss when Eddie covers Imagine? Can’t stick around for a song by a guy who hit his wife, right?

    And if I recall, Emhoff has repented for his sins. Something the other guy absolutely refuses to do. “I don’t take responsibility for anything.”

    If you’re looking for purity in politics, or really anywhere in life, you’re going to be a lonely, lonely person. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    I think Imagine is terribly boring at live shows.  I was just thinking the other day in fact about how I don't really care for Ed's acoustic solo songs to start the encores at PJ shows anymore.   Full band.

    He denied slapping his girlfriend so, no, I don't think he has repented for his sins.  

    Sounds like you are just making excuses because he supports the party you support.    The old "everybody does it" excuse.  Good stuff. 

  • THEBIBLEISTEN
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    bootlegger10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    KH184800 said:
    Surprised? You shouldn’t be. When PJ supports establishment, anti-free speech candidates, you know the world is upside down. Eddie has daughters, and is pro-woman, which is great, but when you fall in love with a side that is now anti-woman (transgenders in women sports), you have, as Fonzie did, Jumped then shark. Emhoff assaulted his ex-girlfriend, and got his nanny pregnant. You don’t have to like Trump, but when you become so famous and isolated, this is what happens. You look past all the things you hate, and beome the things you hate. BTW, PJ is a big part of my life, I’m just sad it’s come to this
    LOL...anti free speech? Let me guess..you are a trump supporter even though he's talking about taking licenses away from major news networks?

    The assault allegations seem weak to me. He supposedly slapped her and she slapped him back. Unfortunate but not really anything criminal and his ex wife has nothing but good things to say.

    But you keep supporting the guy that rapes women! MAGA! Murikka!
    Grown man. Father. Previously divorced.  Spots girlfriend talking to other guy.   Decides that is not cool and walks up and slaps her.  This is not normal behavior.   You seem to equate her slapping him back as making things even.   

    It seems like he was a creep in his law firm days and I've not even mentioned yet him thinking it was a good idea to have an affair with his kids' nanny/teacher.  If he wasn't married to Kamala you would think he was a creep.  

    Sure, compare everyone to Trump, Epstein, Weinstein and they look like saints.  But don't excuse bad behavior because they aren't as egregious as others.   It is great Ed stands up for women at the concerts, but it is disappointing to see them then talk with a man who has such little respect for them.  

     
    So even though he said it never happened he’s automatically guilty? Cmon, enough. You got the orange con artist posing with bibles  and taking staged pictures with evangelicals touching him. Do you believe everything you see/read on the internet? I trust eddie and Jeff that they align themselves with upstanding people and support honest candidates and not a felon, cheating, lying, anti American racist like Trump. 
  • Indifference
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    Jimmydean55 said:


    And if I recall, Emhoff has repented for his sins. Something the other guy absolutely refuses to do. “I don’t take responsibility for anything.”


    repented for the nanny, not the girlfriend - I know hard to keep track.

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  • bootlegger10
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    Every post defending Emhoff brings up Trump's activities.  This totally undercuts your argument because you all are basically not denying his behavior but justifying your support for him because he isn't as bad as Trump.   

    I absolutely believe the slapping accusations.   It seems credible to me.  It isn't like there is money to be made by falsely accusing as I would agree that a slap is definitely not the same level as other accusations that could be made.

    And just so you all know, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 and voted for Biden/Harris in 2020.  I am pro-abortion but also can understand being passionate about being pro-life so I don't think each side is evil.  So don't label me as MAGA or think that bringing Trump in as a defense is going to make one iota of difference to my thought process.  

    I trust the band.  They seem like really good people.  But, like the Jackson song I was listening to this morning, its "human nature" to look past faults of those you want to like.
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,381
    I’ve never liked politics but I can’t fucking stand it nowadays. The thing I find that’s worse than ever is what @bootlegger10 mentioned, both sides look past and relentlessly defend their people and the people they want to like. Especially when it comes to Trump. People hate him so much they will literally say anything to defend Kamala even though she’s a terrible candidate. And don’t label me as some MAGA lover either as I’ve never voted for Trump. Anyway, disappointing to see the band hanging with Emhoff. 
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
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    Abe Froman said:
    I’ve never liked politics but I can’t fucking stand it nowadays. The thing I find that’s worse than ever is what @bootlegger10 mentioned, both sides look past and relentlessly defend their people and the people they want to like. Especially when it comes to Trump. People hate him so much they will literally say anything to defend Kamala even though she’s a terrible candidate. And don’t label me as some MAGA lover either as I’ve never voted for Trump. Anyway, disappointing to see the band hanging with Emhoff. 
    You have no idea if it is true or not. None.cause you read an article of Fox and Maga.com? You have no clue. Everyone is guilty if you read it on the internet!?!?. The thing with Trump is that he is guilty cause the guy is recorded and they have him in interviews confessing to his crimes. And Kamala def isn’t perfect, no candidate is but She’s not terrible, she has good ideas and is trying to bring people together. Your  argument makes zero sense. Disappointing cause the guys talked to her husband. Are you joking? Never seen so many judges on here with verdicts but no proof. 
  • pjl44
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    BF25394 said:
    It's a bad look. It reminds me of when Ed gave his cringeworthy speech defending Bill Murray's honor in L.A. in 2022 (if I remember correctly). It looks out of touch and hypocritical (believe women, but not when they're accusing famous people who are my friends). And for what? Is there a single voter who was going to stay home on November 5 who will be motivated to vote because members of Pearl Jam cozied up to one of the candidate's spouses? It's even harder to imagine that anyone who plans to vote for Trump will change their minds because of this.
    I agree with this 100%. There are a myriad of ways to support the campaign that don't involve sitting down with a guy that has a credible dv accusation hanging over him. Frankly I find it odd that the campaign is pushing him out there rather than sidelining him.
  • Abe Froman
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    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Abe Froman said:
    I’ve never liked politics but I can’t fucking stand it nowadays. The thing I find that’s worse than ever is what @bootlegger10 mentioned, both sides look past and relentlessly defend their people and the people they want to like. Especially when it comes to Trump. People hate him so much they will literally say anything to defend Kamala even though she’s a terrible candidate. And don’t label me as some MAGA lover either as I’ve never voted for Trump. Anyway, disappointing to see the band hanging with Emhoff. 
    You have no idea if it is true or not. None.cause you read an article of Fox and Maga.com? You have no clue. Everyone is guilty if you read it on the internet!?!?. The thing with Trump is that he is guilty cause the guy is recorded and they have him in interviews confessing to his crimes. And Kamala def isn’t perfect, no candidate is but She’s not terrible, she has good ideas and is trying to bring people together. Your  argument makes zero sense. Disappointing cause the guys talked to her husband. Are you joking? Never seen so many judges on here with verdicts but no proof. 
    She’s has good ideas? 😂. She’s been in office for four years and hasn’t done shit but okay. And I get it…nobody can ever disagree or have a different opinion than the guys in Pearl Jam here on the forums. 

    BTW I genuinely think the band are really good people that do great things for communities and charities and such. Doesn’t mean we all as fans have to like every single thing they stand for. 

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