** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Posts: 9,831
    It's clearly related to trump's comments otherwise there wouldn't be so many. He put Springfield on the map with his bullshit.

    How many schools in Columbus received threats? Dayton? Cleveland?
    Just searched Dayton and this came right up.
    https://www.wdtn.com/news/local-news/school-districts-working-with-police-against-rumors-of-threats/
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    teskeinc said:
    Anyone know on average how many schools are “bombed” in the US each year? Not threats but actual?
    This maga appears to be insinuating schools should not take bomb threats seriously. 

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  • This maga appears to be insinuating schools should not take bomb threats seriously. 

    maga!

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  • Ok. I'll humor you. Statistically almost zero. University of OK was probably the last legit one.
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    edited September 2024
    Where do you live mace? Did the news report on these threats? Did your governor order state troopers to patrol the schools like what happened in Ohio?
    I live in eastern TN.
    No he didn't. Yes, there were several news reports. Local news even mentioned numerous threats in Kentucky. Local police also made statements addressing the issue. School districts sent multiple notifications home on multiple days last week addressing the issue. I received several from my work and several from where my kids attend. Multiple arrests have been made for terroristic threats. I posted earlier today the neighboring town of 1 high school and 10,000 residents had multiple threats and 4 arrests. The city I live in where my kids go, a population about half of Springfield had multiple threats and 7 arrests. MY district I work in had dozens of threats targeting several schools specifically and just vague threats towards the district. I haven't heard how many arrests were made, but I know there were some based on the emails sent out. Any student caught making threats will be charged with a crime and suspended 180 days. 
    There's probably 8 or 10 districts within an hour drive of here. Most, if not all, experienced some threats last week.
    It starts as a rumor, or reposting of an old threat from a year ago. Then that gets reposted and reposted and the rumor grows. Then new ones start showing up. Then they start naming specific schools. This all snowballs and explode in about 24-48 hours. Kids being stupid. They think it's funny or want to get school closed for the day. I'm glad they take it seriously and arrest those involved. 
    Last week wasn't the first time I've seen it with threats. And I've seen it with other things every year. I am not convinced these threats online were because of the debate. 
    So while yes the timing makes it very easy to blame trump and the debate, the reality is these things happen unfortunately. It happened at many school outside Ohio last week. And a likely scenario is one threat in Springfield gets more attention because of the current issues and blaming trump, more attention draws more copycats and more threats.
    I don't know for sure that is what happened, or it is unrelated to the debate. But that sure seems just as plausible to me. Probably even more likely so given my experience and the how widespread school threats were last week at the same time. We didn't make national news, but we had about 70% of our student population not attend school because of the threats. It's not a good story when you can't blame a presidential candidate, so it wasn't covered like it was in Ohio. But there were many threats over a wide range of schools. 

    *That's how it started at my school last week. I don't know about the others around here. But old threats were reposted or shared with comments like "I'm not going to school tomorrow!" on Monday.  It gets reposted and reposted. The police investigated, determined they were old posts from over a year ago, sent statements out and emails out. Then on Tuesday new posts emerge. Those get shared and reposted. The more it gets talked about, the more new posts are created. Police and the district issue statements that they are aware and investigating and have not determined any threats to be credible. On Wednesday it's even worse with more than half the school refusing to come in. 
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    I mean he has a point. Like when was the last time a school was actually bombed? Like bombed-BOMBED?!?! 

    Nothing to worry about folks. Just like we had no reason to even glance at Obama's pandemic readiness guide 5 years ago.

    If these last few posts don't sum up maga perfectly, nothing will. Please end this nonsense on 11/5. Good god



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  • They do happen sadly and it is unfortunate, but the uptick can't just be coincidental. 
  • This is a wild "to be fair" issue btw.

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    edited September 2024
    mace1229 said:
    I live in eastern TN.

    I don't know for sure that is what happened, or it is unrelated to the debate. But that sure seems just as plausible to me. Probably even more likely so given my experience and the how widespread school threats were last week at the same time. 
    Yeah.

    You know who I trust more this, Mace? The mayor of the town and the governor of the state that's experiencing the threats. 

    How many pretzels have you twisted yourself in over the last decade trying to excuse Trump from the inexcusable? You should know better by now. 
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  • mace1229 said:
    I live in eastern TN.
    No he didn't. Yes, there were several news reports. Local news even mentioned numerous threats in Kentucky. Local police also made statements addressing the issue. School districts sent multiple notifications home on multiple days last week addressing the issue. I received several from my work and several from where my kids attend. Multiple arrests have been made for terroristic threats. I posted earlier today the neighboring town of 1 high school and 10,000 residents had multiple threats and 4 arrests. The city I live in where my kids go, a population about half of Springfield had multiple threats and 7 arrests. MY district I work in had dozens of threats targeting several schools specifically and just vague threats towards the district. I haven't heard how many arrests were made, but I know there were some based on the emails sent out. Any student caught making threats will be charged with a crime and suspended 180 days. 
    There's probably 8 or 10 districts within an hour drive of here. Most, if not all, experienced some threats last week.
    It starts as a rumor, or reposting of an old threat from a year ago. Then that gets reposted and reposted and the rumor grows. Then new ones start showing up. Then they start naming specific schools. This all snowballs and explode in about 24-48 hours. Kids being stupid. They think it's funny or want to get school closed for the day. I'm glad they take it seriously and arrest those involved. 
    Last week wasn't the first time I've seen it with threats. And I've seen it with other things every year. I am not convinced these threats online were because of the debate. 
    So while yes the timing makes it very easy to blame trump and the debate, the reality is these things happen unfortunately. It happened at many school outside Ohio last week. And a likely scenario is one threat in Springfield gets more attention because of the current issues and blaming trump, more attention draws more copycats and more threats.
    I don't know for sure that is what happened, or it is unrelated to the debate. But that sure seems just as plausible to me. Probably even more likely so given my experience and the how widespread school threats were last week at the same time. We didn't make national news, but we had about 70% of our student population not attend school because of the threats. It's not a good story when you can't blame a presidential candidate, so it wasn't covered like it was in Ohio. But there were many threats over a wide range of schools. 

    *That's how it started at my school last week. I don't know about the others around here. But old threats were reposted or shared with comments like "I'm not going to school tomorrow!" on Monday.  It gets reposted and reposted. The police investigated, determined they were old posts from over a year ago, sent statements out and emails out. Then on Tuesday new posts emerge. Those get shared and reposted. The more it gets talked about, the more new posts are created. Police and the district issue statements that they are aware and investigating and have not determined any threats to be credible. On Wednesday it's even worse with more than half the school refusing to come in. 
    See? Normal.
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  • Posts: 9,831
    edited September 2024
    Yeah.

    You know who I trust more this, Mace? The mayor of the town and the governor of the state that's experiencing the threats. 

    How many pretzels have you twisted yourself in over the last decade trying to excuse Trump from the inexcusable? You should know better by now. 
    So you think dozens of other districts experiencing the same thing is just a coincidence then? Springfield is targeted because of trump, and everywhere else is just a coincidence? 
    I'm not trying to excuse trump. I think what he said made him sound not only stupid, but gullible and crazy. I think that comment cost him the election. I'm sure there are attacks on the immigrants there because of this. I just don't see these school threats that are happening elsewhere too are one of them. Not everything that goes wrong is trumps fault. 
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    mace1229 said:
    Just searched Dayton and this came right up.
    https://www.wdtn.com/news/local-news/school-districts-working-with-police-against-rumors-of-threats/
    ok but that's Troy...and it says there were no threats. It does discuss threats made to Springfield though
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    ok but that's Troy...and it says there were no threats. It does discuss threats made to Springfield though
    It's a suburb of Dayton. And they released this statement: "None of the threats have been deemed credible. We are actively working with HHPD to investigate these vague threats to the greatest extent possible. This communication is not intended to alarm anyone, however it is important to keep our community informed that we take any threat against our district seriously and work closely with HHPD to ensure that our students, staff and buildings remain a safe and conducive learning environment."
    No credible threats doesn't mean no threats. I assume none of the Springfield threats were credible either, since no schools blew up. 
  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    This maga appears to be insinuating schools should not take bomb threats seriously. 

    maga!


    Let's just not worry about it until a bunch of kids are blown to smithereens, then we might want to give a a little thought. (MAGA logic.) 
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    mace1229 said:
    It's a suburb of Dayton. And they released this statement: "None of the threats have been deemed credible. We are actively working with HHPD to investigate these vague threats to the greatest extent possible. This communication is not intended to alarm anyone, however it is important to keep our community informed that we take any threat against our district seriously and work closely with HHPD to ensure that our students, staff and buildings remain a safe and conducive learning environment."
    No credible threats doesn't mean no threats. I assume none of the Springfield threats were credible either, since no schools blew up. 
    actually "no SPECIFIC or credible" threats

    trump caused the Springfield bullshit...be an apologist but he did
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  • Someone should ask their colleagues how many bomb threats their school and district received, on average per semester and school year, for the past 20 years. I’m willing to bet the total doesn’t come close to the past two weeks.
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  • Springfield cancelled Culturefest (not to be confused w/ Cancel Culturefest) "after numerous threats were received by city, county and school facilities.

    Those threats came after Springfield landed in the national spotlight over its Haitian immigration tensions, especially in the wake of baseless claims against immigrants going viral on social media and being shared by top Republican politicians including former President Donald Trump and U.S. Sen. and vice presidential candidate JD Vance." https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/springfield-cancels-culturefest-citing-safety-concerns-due-to-threats/DRIWTZSROVCW7OEOTU6TGWQ4LY/

    Springfield Hospitals are also receiving threats. https://www.chiefhealthcareexecutive.com/view/springfield-hospitals-among-growing-recipients-of-threats


    Probably all just one big ass coincidence though. 

  • Leave it to Jon to encapsulate this thread of today.

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    This is one of the dumbest discussions that's ever happened here. lol
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    This is one of the dumbest discussions that's ever happened here. lol
    I’ll say the stamina people have to go through the daily mental gymnastics to defend and rationalize Trump is impressive. 
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