DONALD J. TRUMP & JD VANCE 2024

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    I think tRump's people were planting seeds that he was going to pivot and start sounding more like a serious candidate yesterday. I was seeing things pop up on X about how his speech/conference was supposed to be more focused on policy, etc.

    During his speech he even mentioned something like he was supposed to sound "more intellectual" or something to that effect and talk about the economy. That lasted about a minute before he launched into his usual bullshit.

    I think a big shakeup is coming with his campaign. He's either not happy and is going to can someone or the campaign manager is sick of him not listening to him and will quit.

    edit: oddly I just heard that tRump fired his campaign managers in August in both 2016 and 2020...lol
    That’s all he needs to do, but he can’t. All he has to do is focus on the economy and the border. He can’t refrain from attacking candidates personally. Part of it is the response from his crowds when he uses a nickname. But that’s who he is. I’m sure he’s getting advice to stay on this issues, he just can’t help himself. 
    why would you vote for a man that cannot help himself and cannot focus on the single message he has to convey?

    most people would recognize this and be like "i think i will vote for someone else."
    Because I don’t vote on emotions or Good Vibes. Voting for economic reasons and policy. I don’t need a President to be my friend.
    vote for the asshole then. we do not need your vote.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    if things were so great under trump the first time, wouldn't he have won in 2020?

    he is 0 for 2 on popular vote, having lost by 3 million the first time and nearly 7 million the second time. not trending the way he wants it to for sure.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    That isn’t discussed in the wonderful world of MAGA!  
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 875
    edited August 2024
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    That isn’t discussed in the wonderful world of MAGA!  
    In fact, faux news pulled the djia chiron as soon as dumpster brought up the economy in his pity party today.

    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1824191909524373985

    Squealer and Napoleon need to coordinate a little better. 
    Post edited by njhaley1 on
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    We lived it for 4 years. There was little inflation. Keep believing leftist spin tho.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    We lived it for 4 years. There was little inflation. Keep believing leftist spin tho.
    why did he lose in 2020?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    We lived it for 4 years. There was little inflation. Keep believing leftist spin tho.
    why is he running now in 2024? to stay out of jail, or to actually try to be the president for real this time?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    edited August 2024
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    Post edited by teskeinc on
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    teskeinc said:
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    why did trump lose in 2020?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,587
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    Sorry but you have to add I’m voting for a rapist an adulterer a failed businessman a liar a racist! You can’t separate him into slices as if you’re eating a plate of food and you put the vegetables to the side because you don’t like them! At least own your whole vote not just part of it carry on 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    Sorry but you have to add I’m voting for a rapist an adulterer a failed businessman a liar a racist! You can’t separate him into slices as if you’re eating a plate of food and you put the vegetables to the side because you don’t like them! At least own your whole vote not just part of it carry on 
    Yes we know you don’t care about issues. Just like last night, right? No mean tweets, orange man bad. Screw everything else
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 875
    teskeinc said:
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    why did trump lose in 2020?
    From the sounds of it, "deflation" is what teste is looking for. Something that is universally panned by economists as a bad thing.

    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/030915/why-deflation-bad-economy.asp 

    You'd think someone so skilled in business would know that, I assumed it was common knowledge. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    njhaley1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    why did trump lose in 2020?
    From the sounds of it, "deflation" is what teste is looking for. Something that is universally panned by economists as a bad thing.

    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/030915/why-deflation-bad-economy.asp 

    You'd think someone so skilled in business would know that, I assumed it was common knowledge. 
    i am asking him why, if things were so great under trump, did trump lose in 2020.

    he can answer if he chooses to.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    why did trump lose in 2020?
    More people voted for Biden. They thought things would be better, unfortunately they were wrong. Now they have a chance to fix the mistake.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    why did trump lose in 2020?
    More people voted for Biden. They thought things would be better, unfortunately they were wrong. Now they have a chance to fix the mistake.
    they are not going to elect trump. hate to burst your bubble.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    why did trump lose in 2020?
    More people voted for Biden. They thought things would be better, unfortunately they were wrong. Now they have a chance to fix the mistake.
    they are not going to elect trump. hate to burst your bubble.
    We’ll see…. You have to worry, I don’t. All the emotional people here have everything to lose and nothing to gain. If Kamala wins, things stay the same, maybe worse. If Trump wins, everyone here is devastated. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,141
    teskeinc said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    njhaley1 said:
    JD Vance is more unpopular than Sarah Palin: https://abcnews.go.com/538/tim-walz-popular-jd-vance/story?id=112841577

    ABC throwing so much shade you'd think there was an eclipse.
    That legit surprises me. I really kinda thought it was a good pick. He served in the military and legitimately pulled himself out of poverty. Before he became such a boot-licking toady, I had generally positive feelings about him. He's done admirable things and the bad things are so Trumpian that I remain surprised he's not the most-popular US-born Trump sycophant within the base.
    Are you sure he pulled himself out of poverty? I think he grew up in a fairly well off household.
    I suppose he could have been blatantly lying in his book (Hillbilly Elegy) but as far as I know, it was pretty legit.

    I recently told the person who recommended that book to me that I'll never forgive him for recommending spending money on that (Jokingly, of course).
    He was a hero to Democrats when he wrote the book. Just like everyone loved Trump until he ran for President and was a Democrat.

    Youre told how to think, vote and hate by your media. CNN and MSNBC own you.
    nobody loved trump before he ran for president. everybody on the planet knew he was an asshole.

    also, we do not need media to tell us when someone is an asshole. most of us can observe and come to that conclusion on our own.

    most of us.
    I think you meant nobody “loves” POOTWH. Even his family.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    I think tRump's people were planting seeds that he was going to pivot and start sounding more like a serious candidate yesterday. I was seeing things pop up on X about how his speech/conference was supposed to be more focused on policy, etc.

    During his speech he even mentioned something like he was supposed to sound "more intellectual" or something to that effect and talk about the economy. That lasted about a minute before he launched into his usual bullshit.

    I think a big shakeup is coming with his campaign. He's either not happy and is going to can someone or the campaign manager is sick of him not listening to him and will quit.

    edit: oddly I just heard that tRump fired his campaign managers in August in both 2016 and 2020...lol
    That’s all he needs to do, but he can’t. All he has to do is focus on the economy and the border. He can’t refrain from attacking candidates personally. Part of it is the response from his crowds when he uses a nickname. But that’s who he is. I’m sure he’s getting advice to stay on this issues, he just can’t help himself. 
    why would you vote for a man that cannot help himself and cannot focus on the single message he has to convey?

    most people would recognize this and be like "i think i will vote for someone else."
    Because I don’t vote on emotions or Good Vibes. Voting for economic reasons and policy. I don’t need a President to be my friend.
    Yeah you aren’t voting for either. 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    teskeinc said:
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    It's absolutely true. You must have been a marketing major. 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,141
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    I think tRump's people were planting seeds that he was going to pivot and start sounding more like a serious candidate yesterday. I was seeing things pop up on X about how his speech/conference was supposed to be more focused on policy, etc.

    During his speech he even mentioned something like he was supposed to sound "more intellectual" or something to that effect and talk about the economy. That lasted about a minute before he launched into his usual bullshit.

    I think a big shakeup is coming with his campaign. He's either not happy and is going to can someone or the campaign manager is sick of him not listening to him and will quit.

    edit: oddly I just heard that tRump fired his campaign managers in August in both 2016 and 2020...lol
    That’s all he needs to do, but he can’t. All he has to do is focus on the economy and the border. He can’t refrain from attacking candidates personally. Part of it is the response from his crowds when he uses a nickname. But that’s who he is. I’m sure he’s getting advice to stay on this issues, he just can’t help himself. 
    why would you vote for a man that cannot help himself and cannot focus on the single message he has to convey?

    most people would recognize this and be like "i think i will vote for someone else."
    Because I don’t vote on emotions or Good Vibes. Voting for economic reasons and policy. I don’t need a President to be my friend.
    We know you wanted to have a beer with Shrub.
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