DONALD J. TRUMP & JD VANCE 2024

teskeinc

Gern Blansten said:

teskeinc said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

teskeinc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I think tRump's people were planting seeds that he was going to pivot and start sounding more like a serious candidate yesterday. I was seeing things pop up on X about how his speech/conference was supposed to be more focused on policy, etc.

During his speech he even mentioned something like he was supposed to sound "more intellectual" or something to that effect and talk about the economy. That lasted about a minute before he launched into his usual bullshit.

I think a big shakeup is coming with his campaign. He's either not happy and is going to can someone or the campaign manager is sick of him not listening to him and will quit.

edit: oddly I just heard that tRump fired his campaign managers in August in both 2016 and 2020...lol

That’s all he needs to do, but he can’t. All he has to do is focus on the economy and the border. He can’t refrain from attacking candidates personally. Part of it is the response from his crowds when he uses a nickname. But that’s who he is. I’m sure he’s getting advice to stay on this issues, he just can’t help himself. 

why would you vote for a man that cannot help himself and cannot focus on the single message he has to convey?

most people would recognize this and be like "i think i will vote for someone else."

Because I don’t vote on emotions or Good Vibes. Voting for economic reasons and policy. I don’t need a President to be my friend.

Yeah you aren’t voting for either. 

Voting for McDonalds Value Meals apparently

Tim Simmons

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tbergs

This thread is like a 10 on 1 BDSM fetish circle for a certain poster. Zero substance but lots of hit and run. 

mickeyrat

tbergs said:

This thread is like a 10 on 1 BDSM fetish circle for a certain poster. Zero substance but lots of hit and run. 

and yet, people still engage. baffling.

Johnny Abruzzo

Remember when we couldn’t buy toilet paper? Who was president then?

teskeinc

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Remember when we couldn’t buy toilet paper? Who was president then?

I have bidets installed but we never ran out or had a hard time finding it. Remember when Bootyjudge jammed the ports almost canceling Christmas or newborn babies unable to get their formula because of transportation/production issues? Or the semiconductor shortage of 2021-2023 slowing the production of almost 20 million cars? Causing the price of used cars to skyrocket right along with interest rates?

Everything is fixed tho and we should forget the last 3.5 years and vote for an illusion and Good Vibes with no platform because Orange Man Bad?

josevolution

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

teskeinc said:

curmudgeoness said:

And that's the question, isn't it?

"Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.

Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?

Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?

We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.

Sorry but you have to add I’m voting for a rapist an adulterer a failed businessman a liar a racist! You can’t separate him into slices as if you’re eating a plate of food and you put the vegetables to the side because you don’t like them! At least own your whole vote not just part of it carry on 

Yes we know you don’t care about issues. Just like last night, right? No mean tweets, orange man bad. Screw everything else

😂😂 who’s we?

Poncier

teskeinc said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Remember when we couldn’t buy toilet paper? Who was president then?

 Bootyjudge 

Nice homophobic slur.

Gern Blansten

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1824400779098132493

I was glad to see NBC pick this up. How fucked up is this? And magats still say John Kelly was lying about the "losers and suckers" comment that tRump made about wounded veterans. 

Johnny Abruzzo

What was that crap they had sitting out there - Maxwell House? Folgers? Who buys that crap anymore?

njhaley1

He's hemorrhaging support - Walz should offer him a tampon. 

His only chance to win is through violence and threats of civil war. Anecdotally, I live in a pretty red area and just this past week have personally seen signs of growing desperation and hostility - more frequent instances of road rage, public freak outs in the grocery stores, etc.

"We the People... Need a diaper change" 

Gern Blansten

Johnny Abruzzo said:

What was that crap they had sitting out there - Maxwell House? Folgers? Who buys that crap anymore?

Yeah my grandma used to use Maxwell House coffee. To her credit she made it strong as hell which made it a thick bitter sludge but at least we got a good high from it.

But again...he yammers about prices of groceries while he stands in front of his expensive golf club. Great optics dumbass.

josevolution

Johnny Abruzzo said:

What was that crap they had sitting out there - Maxwell House? Folgers? Who buys that crap anymore?

Oooff yeah Folgers is nasty 

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo said:

What was that crap they had sitting out there - Maxwell House? Folgers? Who buys that crap anymore?

Looked like a Carrot Top set. 

Johnny Abruzzo

josevolution said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

What was that crap they had sitting out there - Maxwell House? Folgers? Who buys that crap anymore?

Oooff yeah Folgers is nasty 

One time I read an article about those supermarket coffee brands. It's all ground up and they are allowed by law a certain percentage of "other" stuff in there, like parts of trees. The article headline was "Good to the Last Twig." Can't find it though.

The Juggler

It's really too bad for Trump that the economy is improving. Sad.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-economic-indicators-could-spell-trouble-for-trump-campaign-106c25b0

These economic indicators could spell trouble for Trump campaign

Real incomes in key swing states are rebounding

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Published: Aug. 15, 2024 at 4:07 p.m. ET

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Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump spoke about the economy at a campaign event on Aug. 14, 2024, in Asheville, N.C.Photo: Grant Baldwin/Getty Images

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Vice President Kamala Harris has surged in the polls and in betting markets against Donald Trump, and one possible reason is an improving economy.

Economists and political scientists who have studied past presidential elections have found that economic developments can be a critical determinant of the outcome, especially in a close race.

Justin Begley, an economist at Moody’s Analytics who helps run the company’s presidential-election model, told MarketWatch in an interview that while political factors such as candidate strength and voter enthusiasm are important, economic factors can be more dynamic and influence independent and undecided voters’ election-day decisions.

Begley and his colleagues pored over decades’ worth of economic data and election results and determined that the best economic predictors of an election outcome are gasoline prices 

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, changes in household incomes, mortgage rates and consumer confidence.

Lower gas prices and mortgage rates, along with rising household incomes and consumer confidence, tend to help the incumbent party stay in power.

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“These data are looking to be a tailwind for the incumbent party, so Kamala Harris, this time around,” Begley said.

One economic indicator that has turned in Harris’s direction in recent months is household income, adjusted for inflation.

In the swing states of Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, the typical voter saw their inflation-adjusted incomes rise in the second quarter of 2024, after seeing their incomes fall for most of 2022 and 2023, Begley said. Only Arizona showed a decline in real incomes last quarter.

The unemployment rate in each swing state is also below the national average of 4.3%, save for Nevada, which has a 5.2% jobless rate.

That said, the unemployment rate is broadly rising across the U.S., putting these gains at risk.

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“Slowing in labor demand, reduced hiring and the creep up in unemployment is definitely a negative factor impacting incomes,” Begley said.

Countering a softening labor market are continued declines in inflation and stable economic growth that will cause real household incomes to rise in the next two quarters for each swing state, according to Moody’s projections.

For the U.S. as a whole, Moody’s predicts an increase of 0.72% in the third quarter and of 1.3% in the fourth.

Another troubling statistic for the Trump campaign is the price of gasoline.

Gasoline prices have trended downward over the course of the past year, falling on average from $3.86 per gallon last August to $3.44 per gallon today.

Mortgage rates have similarly fallen after sharp surge instigated by the Federal Reserve raising interest rates to quell inflation. As inflation has cooled, so have borrowing costs, as markets expect the Fed to begin cutting interest rates in September.

That said, Americans are still not thrilled about the state of the economy, even as inflation has cooled and unemployment remains low by historical standards.

Economists say a likely culprit for somewhat depressed consumer confidence is the recent bout of extreme inflation and high interest rates, which has left consumers nostalgic for prepandemic price levels, even if their incomes have risen commensurately.

Relatively muted consumer confidence is one economic indicator that is not particularly bullish for Harris, Begley said.

Even with these indicators largely moving in Harris’s direction, Moody’s still sees the race as a toss-up, given Trump’s relatively high approval ratings and high Republican enthusiasm that will likely lead to a healthy turnout among GOP voters.

In a speech in North Carolina on Wednesday, Trump said that as president, he would end “job-killing regulations” and roll back restrictions on fossil-fuel production. The former president pledged to lower Americans’ energy costs by as much as 70% within a year or at most 18 months.

He hedged, however, saying: “If it doesn’t work out, you’ll say, oh, well, I voted for him and he still got it down a lot.”

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There’s no guarantee that these indicators will continue to favor the incumbent party. For instance, a recession could cause unemployment to surge and real incomes to fall, or conflict in the Middle East could cause oil and gasoline prices to rise.

Moody’s estimates that an increase in gas prices to $4.09 per gallon in the coming months could tip the election decisively in Trump’s direction, as would mortgage rates rising to 8.65%.

Ultimately, all these factors contribute to what is often the single most important variable in a presidential election: voter turnout.

“We assume Republican turnout will be the same as in 2020,” Begley said, “but if that increases by just 0.8%, Trump will win the election.”

Gern Blansten

There is no word for how stupid this is.

gimmesometruth27

Gern Blansten said:

There is no word for how stupid this is.

i didn't know a field could be gorgeous.

Johnny Abruzzo

The Juggler said:

It's really too bad for Trump that the economy is improving. Sad.

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gimmesometruth27

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

There is no word for how stupid this is.

i didn't know a field could be gorgeous.

then again this is also the man that referred to the robert e lee statue that was taken down as "beautiful".