#46 President Joe Biden

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    It will be interesting to see how rabid the GOP will be about the terms of release.

    Their M.O., as usual, not doubt.
    And they will forget that Trump said, "I'm the only one that can get him released.  The only one!"  Ha!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,172
    Biden was on the phone with the president of Slovenia securing this deal while isolating with Covid; he finished the call and then said he was stepping down.
    Biden was on the phone with the president of Slovenia securing this deal while isolating with Covid; he finished the call and then said he was stepping down.
    “Why was Brandon on the phone with the weak president of Slovenia? I would have spoken to Putin on the ritz so he could hear the toughness in my voice. I would have had all the hostages, and future hostages to be named later, home before they were taken hostage because many people are saying that Putin on the ritz is tough, which is true, he’s not as tough as me and he likes deals, ok? Like Let’s Make a Deal, Wheel of Fortune or The Price Is Right because of course it’d have to be because we’re not going to pay a lot for that muffler, I’ll tell you. No, the price has to be right because Putin on the ritz is a very smart man, a lot like my uncle, who went to MIT by the way, and the way you deal with smart people is you talk to them and explain things with your hands. Have you ever seen that? Like those magic guys in Laaaas Vegas, what’s their names? Penn & Teller. You know why they’re called Penn & Teller? I’ll tell you why. It’s because Penn is like using his hands, see, to write things down and by doing so, they’re telling, Tell er, see, they’re telling you what their going to do but more importantly, what you’re going to do, see? That’s the beauty of having that skill. I used to do magic but not so much anymore. It’s boring and I don’t need it. Know why? Because I’m tough and not soft like that magic duo, particularly that skinny silent one. How are you going to negotiate with a very tough Putin on the ritz with no heft and keeping quiet all the time? It’s a disgrace. This country is going to hell. H-E-L-L. Hell I tell you.”
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,403
    I expect the angle to be that Biden only did it because Trump mentioned it in May and that it was for political reasons due to the upcoming election. Makes the dems look better. There's plenty of arguments and hypotheticals to be made that are actually plausible and that can't be proven/disproven either way.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,181
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    I heard somewhere that this might relate to some medical issue but we'll see.

    The dems should use the "Putin is afraid of Harris" angle
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,181

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    I heard somewhere that this might relate to some medical issue but we'll see.

    The dems should use the "Putin is afraid of Harris" angle

    I believe Vladimir Kara-Murza is very ill.
    I also think it was suggested in Jake Sullivan's press conference that Navalny was supposed to be part of this exchange but he died before negotiations could be concluded.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I heard somewhere that this might relate to some medical issue but we'll see.

    The dems should use the "Putin is afraid of Harris" angle

    I believe Vladimir Kara-Murza is very ill.
    I also think it was suggested in Jake Sullivan's press conference that Navalny was supposed to be part of this exchange but he died before negotiations could be concluded.
    Unfortunately, I don't believe Navalny was ever leaving.  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,403
    mrussel1 said:
    I heard somewhere that this might relate to some medical issue but we'll see.

    The dems should use the "Putin is afraid of Harris" angle

    I believe Vladimir Kara-Murza is very ill.
    I also think it was suggested in Jake Sullivan's press conference that Navalny was supposed to be part of this exchange but he died before negotiations could be concluded.
    Unfortunately, I don't believe Navalny was ever leaving.  
    Yeah, no way they would have let him go. He was always going to "die" if he was a part of negotiations.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Well, let me rephrase:
    The Biden administration was negotiating for the release of Navalny, they were trying to free him.
    Whether or not Putin would have honored any such agreement is a different matter. And for all we know (and we'll never know for sure), Putin caused Navalny to "fall ill" because these talks were happening (they were already happening when Navalny died).
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,077
    anybody want to go pick up a "lets go barndon" flag since they are now 95% off? this event is worth that i would say.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Well, let me rephrase:
    The Biden administration was negotiating for the release of Navalny, they were trying to free him.
    Whether or not Putin would have honored any such agreement is a different matter. And for all we know (and we'll never know for sure), Putin caused Navalny to "fall ill" because these talks were happening (they were already happening when Navalny died).
    I think that's all true.  
  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,077
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    What’s Biden doing these days?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,172
    teskeinc said:
    What’s Biden doing these days?
    Shaking down Ukraine and Chiiiiiiiina.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,181
    teskeinc said:
    What’s Biden doing these days?
    Did you miss his interview this morning? 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,596
    teskeinc said:
    What’s Biden doing these days?
    He was riding his bike on a Sunday what was lard ass doing? He couldn’t even get on a bike let alone ride one 😂 go ahead tell us how great in shape tubby is in! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,077
    teskeinc said:
    What’s Biden doing these days?
    presidenting.
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  • teskeinc
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