Keeping Men out of Women's Sports

lastexitlondon said:

They aren't a trans but an XY which has to be male. That's that and there is another one today from Chinese tipai. 

What if someone with xy has a vagina? 

lastexitlondon said:

lastexitlondon said:

They aren't a trans but an XY which has to be male. That's that and there is another one today from Chinese tipai. 

What if someone with xy has a vagina? 

They do have a vagina. But  chromosome wise male.And I believe can have testicles internally hence higher testosterone 

So why conclude an intersexed person is a man solely based on chromosomes? They could have identified as a woman their entire life, but now you’ll say they’re a man? 

lastexitlondon said:

They can identify as they wish. They have the chromosome make up of a male. What's your issue?

You said xy has to be male. So either you’d identify them as male or you wouldn’t. My issue is that being a man or woman includes aspects of our biology, but it goes beyond that also. Trying to define it by strict biological terms will fall apart rather quickly under further examination.  Unfortunately now that gender is a political issue, there’s going to be legislation on on a complicated topic by simpletons who can’t grasp and live with ambiguity. 

lastexitlondon said:

It's just science. It's nothing political for me. You won't get a rise out of me.

I know it’s science, that’s what I’m referring to with intersexed people and how that dismantles a rigid, binary definition of a man or woman. 

Go Beavers said:

lastexitlondon said:

It's just science. It's nothing political for me. You won't get a rise out of me.

I know it’s science, that’s what I’m referring to with intersexed people and how that dismantles a rigid, binary definition of a man or woman. 

Not in contact sport it doesn't. Sure in life have as many definitions as you like. I'm all for people being free and happy. But in sport and even more so striking sports it's binary. If you test high in testosterone for  any reason you cannot punch someone of a regular level for your sport. It really is that simple 

mace1229 said:

Go Beavers said:

Hoagie Breath said:

Funny how it never seems to go ther other way, woman wanting to play mens sports. Gee, I wonder why lol.  Whole topic is a joke. 

They exist, but you don’t hear about it because it doesn’t make good clickbait for twitter. 

No. You don’t hear about it because it’s not controversial. It doesn’t give them an unfair advantage to play up. It’s not putting others at greater risk of injury. So nothing to talk about.

The Olympics do not see it as an unfair advantage? Anything that is deemed to be, is forbidden.

No one is forced to apply to and compete in the Olympics if they do not find their rules fitting. They can e.g. go compete with organizations that are both funded by and let Russians compete under their own flag. And who wing decisions after Russian athletes loose. 

It's obviously not an clear cut thing and something to discuss (within the sport world), but abusing and misgendering a person in here and on SoMe in general is icky behaviour. Like that piece of shit hungarian opponent she is to fight next.

Spunkie said:

^ SC, So my daughter shouldn't play BC soccer if she doesn't want to play against a U14 XY chromosomal female identifying child that injured her.

That's what you're saying, that's what the coach said, and that's what BC soccer says. And it sounds like the Olympics are okay with it, too?

I'm not saying she doesn't want to play. Being injured by them/they doesn't bother her (except for the vision loss, pain, headaches, and inability to enjoy regular summer activities like jumping on a wibit, playing soccer, running, or tubing). She doesn't know the ramifications of concussions, however.

I'm not trying to be a dick but kids get injured in sports all the time. 

Yes sports that's what the topic is