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  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    Can’t wait!
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,956

    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    Vinyl available on Friday…
  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,703
    I'm excited for this, I'll be up for the midnight release.
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  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,956
    Attaway77 said:
    I'm excited for this, I'll be up for the midnight release.
    After tonight's show I think I'll be with you waiting for midnight tomorrow!  Rawk lives,  lol! 
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,463
    Heard the first song. Enjoyed it! Have to listen to the rest tomorrow.
  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,703
    edited August 2024
    music is important.
    Post edited by Attaway77 on
    1998 Dallas (7/5) 2006 San Fran (7/15,7/16) 2009 San Fran (8/28) 2010 Bristow (5/13) NY (5/21) 2011 Alpine Valley (9/3,9/4)
    2012 Missoula (9/30) 2013 Chicago (7/19) Pittsburgh (10/11) Buffalo (10/12) Baltimore (10/27) Dallas (11/15)
    2014 Austin (10/12) Memphis (10/14) St. Paul (10/19) Milwaukee (10/20) Denver (10/22)
    2016 Ft. Lauderdale (4/8) Miami (4/9) Hampton (4/18) Philly (4/28,4/29) NY (5/1,5/2) 2018 Seattle (8/10) Missoula (8/13) 2022 Nashville (9/16)
    E.V. - 2008 Berkeley (4/8) 2012 Austin (11/9,11/12)
    Temple of the Dog - 2016 Upper Darby


  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,703
    edited August 2024
    music is important.
    Post edited by Attaway77 on
    1998 Dallas (7/5) 2006 San Fran (7/15,7/16) 2009 San Fran (8/28) 2010 Bristow (5/13) NY (5/21) 2011 Alpine Valley (9/3,9/4)
    2012 Missoula (9/30) 2013 Chicago (7/19) Pittsburgh (10/11) Buffalo (10/12) Baltimore (10/27) Dallas (11/15)
    2014 Austin (10/12) Memphis (10/14) St. Paul (10/19) Milwaukee (10/20) Denver (10/22)
    2016 Ft. Lauderdale (4/8) Miami (4/9) Hampton (4/18) Philly (4/28,4/29) NY (5/1,5/2) 2018 Seattle (8/10) Missoula (8/13) 2022 Nashville (9/16)
    E.V. - 2008 Berkeley (4/8) 2012 Austin (11/9,11/12)
    Temple of the Dog - 2016 Upper Darby


  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,956
    I’m pretty sure I fell asleep listening but really enjoyed the album as far as I made it (it’s been a busy week, lol). Going for a deeper listen this evening but my first impression was that it was a good representation of what I saw on stage the night before.

    Oh, and there is a synth track or two, caveat emptor, lol!
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY - Proud South Canadian. Posts: 801
    First couple of spins of AMM - meh. Definitely more guitars for sure.

    Pentecost has a GREAT line: "I've been saying goodbye forever."
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    I like the new album.   Ended up ordering a vinyl copy from Amazon Canada.  It was hard to justify spending over $100cdn on a copy to get color vinyl and a 7" when the standard version is $31 on Amazon.  Plus if another place releases a cooler variant I can always change my mind :)
  • vito
    vito Chicago Posts: 2,029
    Only 1 listen and it's the best thing they've done in ages🙏
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  • matt84
    matt84 Posts: 822
    The new album starts off well, but it isn’t great. The vocals are pretty terrible. Still, it’s better than the last two and I’d say it’s a better album than Dark Matter.
  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,463
    I’ve listened a couple of times now. My favorite late pumpkins album is Oceania. This does not surpass that. It’s good though. Musically I like it, but Corgan’s vocals since Cyr leave a little to be desired. Also, some of these lyrics are a bit strange to me. “Kino”? Overall, I like it well enough.
  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,703
    CarryTheZero said:
    . Musically I like it, but Corgan’s vocals since Cyr leave a little to be desired. 
    This is how I feel about it. His voice just gets to me after a while on these songs. Musically great tunes, I can only imagine if somebody else was singing these, may be better.
    1998 Dallas (7/5) 2006 San Fran (7/15,7/16) 2009 San Fran (8/28) 2010 Bristow (5/13) NY (5/21) 2011 Alpine Valley (9/3,9/4)
    2012 Missoula (9/30) 2013 Chicago (7/19) Pittsburgh (10/11) Buffalo (10/12) Baltimore (10/27) Dallas (11/15)
    2014 Austin (10/12) Memphis (10/14) St. Paul (10/19) Milwaukee (10/20) Denver (10/22)
    2016 Ft. Lauderdale (4/8) Miami (4/9) Hampton (4/18) Philly (4/28,4/29) NY (5/1,5/2) 2018 Seattle (8/10) Missoula (8/13) 2022 Nashville (9/16)
    E.V. - 2008 Berkeley (4/8) 2012 Austin (11/9,11/12)
    Temple of the Dog - 2016 Upper Darby


  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,550
    I really don't get the praise for this album. It is shorter and a little more rocking but there is nothing at all memorable or 90s-esque and yes his vocals are kinda grating. I might be in the minority but I really liked Cyr and Monuments to an Elegy and haven't like much else recently.
  • matt84
    matt84 Posts: 822
    I really like Monuments to an Elegy too. Didn’t care for Cyr though. I think the new album is definitely a grower. But I agree there isn’t much memorable on there. I feel the same way about Dark Matter. I don’t get the praise (especially on this forum) that it is getting. It’s easily their weakest album in my opinion. I've listened to it many many times, but there’s nothing apart from the title track sticks out.
  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,550
    matt84 said:
    I really like Monuments to an Elegy too. Didn’t care for Cyr though. I think the new album is definitely a grower. But I agree there isn’t much memorable on there. I feel the same way about Dark Matter. I don’t get the praise (especially on this forum) that it is getting. It’s easily their weakest album in my opinion. I've listened to it many many times, but there’s nothing apart from the title track sticks out.
    :) I think Dark Matter is fantastic and so much better than anything they've put out since Avocado.
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY - Proud South Canadian. Posts: 801
    CarryTheZero said:
    I’ve listened a couple of times now. My favorite late pumpkins album is Oceania. This does not surpass that. It’s good though. Musically I like it, but Corgan’s vocals since Cyr leave a little to be desired. Also, some of these lyrics are a bit strange to me. “Kino”? Overall, I like it well enough.
    He addressed his change in vocal style a few years ago in an interview, saying something like it was too hard for him to sing the way he used to, and if he didn't change his delivery style, he'd had to stop singing. Not that his vocals were always great to begin with lol, but yeah his vocals over the past few years have been meh.
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    really odd. first listen,. this album did absolutely ZERO for me. Then I went for a drive. Put it on. Something clicked. Not all tracks are fire. But some of these riffs are straight metal. That being said, the problem I noticed with Billy's songwriting now is that he seems to be writing soundtracks, not individual songs. They lack the HOOK of his early work. A lot of it just seems like one long song, all indiscernible from each. 
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