The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread
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 I don’t get that at all from his comment. PJNB is very active in the tour discussion threads and I think he’s just basing his comment on their past history. I think he’d be very pleased if the band toured Europe next year and he was wrong.seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 Not worth it to be honest. Some people here really bring the whole forum vibe down. So odd.on2legs said:
 I don’t get that at all from his comment. PJNB is very active in the tour discussion threads and I think he’s just basing his comment on their past history. I think he’d be very pleased if the band toured Europe next year and he was wrong.seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
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 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….0
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 Very odd!PJNB said:
 Not worth it to be honest. Some people here really bring the whole forum vibe down. So odd.on2legs said:
 I don’t get that at all from his comment. PJNB is very active in the tour discussion threads and I think he’s just basing his comment on their past history. I think he’d be very pleased if the band toured Europe next year and he was wrong.seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.0
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 Surely the whole point of a tour rumor thread is to discuss the possibility of a tour happening.on2legs said:
 I don’t get that at all from his comment. PJNB is very active in the tour discussion threads and I think he’s just basing his comment on their past history. I think he’d be very pleased if the band toured Europe next year and he was wrong.seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Not a tour not happening.
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 This is not about you. Stop taking things so personal here. If the shows happen in Europe next year I am happy for you guys and will try and make it over for a few shows!seanclax said:
 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.
 That said this is the rumour thread. At this point in the thread nothing is booked. There aren’t even any rumours of dates and cities for any shows out there yet. All we have is the Sphere, SA, and Jeff’s comments about hoping Europe happens. Thats it. It’s all speculation at this point. Welcome to the rumour thread and enjoy the grind looking for info until someone with some actual sources comes in here and blows our minds.Maybe take a step back until then. It is going to be awhile.0
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 A local show for us metro Detroiters. Yes!Save Who said:LCA is a nice new arena and Detroit hasn't had a show in 10 years. Let's get that rumor started!0
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 I was pointing out that I'm not actually being negative when it comes to the tour.PJNB said:
 This is not about you. Stop taking things so personal here. If the shows happen in Europe next year I am happy for you guys and will try and make it over for a few shows!seanclax said:
 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.
 That said this is the rumour thread. At this point in the thread nothing is booked. There aren’t even any rumours of dates and cities for any shows out there yet. All we have is the Sphere, SA, and Jeff’s comments about hoping Europe happens. Thats it. It’s all speculation at this point. Welcome to the rumour thread and enjoy the grind looking for info until someone with some actual sources comes in here and blows our minds.Maybe take a step back until then. It is going to be awhile.0
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 Exactly!!! All we have is Facemeltor’s vegas comment and Jeff’s Instagram comment. I expect there will not really be any further rumours about 2025 Europe and US dates until around October, after US Leg 2 has finished.PJNB said:
 This is not about you. Stop taking things so personal here. If the shows happen in Europe next year I am happy for you guys and will try and make it over for a few shows!seanclax said:
 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.
 That said this is the rumour thread. At this point in the thread nothing is booked. There aren’t even any rumours of dates and cities for any shows out there yet. All we have is the Sphere, SA, and Jeff’s comments about hoping Europe happens. Thats it. It’s all speculation at this point. Welcome to the rumour thread and enjoy the grind looking for info until someone with some actual sources comes in here and blows our minds.Maybe take a step back until then. It is going to be awhile.0
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 You made a comment that apparently it’s not going to happen like I have some magic crystal ball and know what’s happening next year.seanclax said:
 I was pointing out that I'm not actually being negative when it comes to the tour.PJNB said:
 This is not about you. Stop taking things so personal here. If the shows happen in Europe next year I am happy for you guys and will try and make it over for a few shows!seanclax said:
 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.
 That said this is the rumour thread. At this point in the thread nothing is booked. There aren’t even any rumours of dates and cities for any shows out there yet. All we have is the Sphere, SA, and Jeff’s comments about hoping Europe happens. Thats it. It’s all speculation at this point. Welcome to the rumour thread and enjoy the grind looking for info until someone with some actual sources comes in here and blows our minds.Maybe take a step back until then. It is going to be awhile.Again
 It’s all speculation at this point
 It’s not personal
 Maybe stay out of the thread until there is more than speculation if you can’t handle someone posting they don’t think euro shows are happening next year.
 Or stay in it and act like it’s a personal attack on you if someone thinks Europe is not getting back to back years.Have fun!0
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 Maybe stay out of a rumour thread if your just gonna say you don't see it happening 🤷PJNB said:
 You made a comment that apparently it’s not going to happen like I have some magic crystal ball and know what’s happening next year.seanclax said:
 I was pointing out that I'm not actually being negative when it comes to the tour.PJNB said:
 This is not about you. Stop taking things so personal here. If the shows happen in Europe next year I am happy for you guys and will try and make it over for a few shows!seanclax said:
 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.
 That said this is the rumour thread. At this point in the thread nothing is booked. There aren’t even any rumours of dates and cities for any shows out there yet. All we have is the Sphere, SA, and Jeff’s comments about hoping Europe happens. Thats it. It’s all speculation at this point. Welcome to the rumour thread and enjoy the grind looking for info until someone with some actual sources comes in here and blows our minds.Maybe take a step back until then. It is going to be awhile.Again
 It’s all speculation at this point
 It’s not personal
 Maybe stay out of the thread until there is more than speculation if you can’t handle someone posting they don’t think euro shows are happening next year.
 Or stay in it and act like it’s a personal attack on you if someone thinks Europe is not getting back to back years.Have fun!
 Where else are we supposed to talk about this.
 And it's you that can't seem to handle someone thinking differently to you.0
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 Maybe stay out of a rumour thread if your just gonna say you don't see it happening 🤷PJNB said:
 You made a comment that apparently it’s not going to happen like I have some magic crystal ball and know what’s happening next year.seanclax said:
 I was pointing out that I'm not actually being negative when it comes to the tour.PJNB said:
 This is not about you. Stop taking things so personal here. If the shows happen in Europe next year I am happy for you guys and will try and make it over for a few shows!seanclax said:
 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.
 That said this is the rumour thread. At this point in the thread nothing is booked. There aren’t even any rumours of dates and cities for any shows out there yet. All we have is the Sphere, SA, and Jeff’s comments about hoping Europe happens. Thats it. It’s all speculation at this point. Welcome to the rumour thread and enjoy the grind looking for info until someone with some actual sources comes in here and blows our minds.Maybe take a step back until then. It is going to be awhile.Again
 It’s all speculation at this point
 It’s not personal
 Maybe stay out of the thread until there is more than speculation if you can’t handle someone posting they don’t think euro shows are happening next year.
 Or stay in it and act like it’s a personal attack on you if someone thinks Europe is not getting back to back years.Have fun!
 Where else are we supposed to talk about this.
 And it's you that can't seem to handle someone thinking differently to you.0
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 Maybe stay out of a rumour thread if your just gonna say you don't see it happeningPJNB said:
 You made a comment that apparently it’s not going to happen like I have some magic crystal ball and know what’s happening next year.seanclax said:
 I was pointing out that I'm not actually being negative when it comes to the tour.PJNB said:
 This is not about you. Stop taking things so personal here. If the shows happen in Europe next year I am happy for you guys and will try and make it over for a few shows!seanclax said:
 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.
 That said this is the rumour thread. At this point in the thread nothing is booked. There aren’t even any rumours of dates and cities for any shows out there yet. All we have is the Sphere, SA, and Jeff’s comments about hoping Europe happens. Thats it. It’s all speculation at this point. Welcome to the rumour thread and enjoy the grind looking for info until someone with some actual sources comes in here and blows our minds.Maybe take a step back until then. It is going to be awhile.Again
 It’s all speculation at this point
 It’s not personal
 Maybe stay out of the thread until there is more than speculation if you can’t handle someone posting they don’t think euro shows are happening next year.
 Or stay in it and act like it’s a personal attack on you if someone thinks Europe is not getting back to back years.Have fun!
 Where else are we supposed to talk about this.
 And it's you that can't seem to handle someone thinking differently to you.0
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 Some of that discussion will involve where we don’t think they’re playing. That’s part of the process. As long as someone isn’t being a major downer I’m good with it. Just constantly posting that something won’t happen isn’t productive to the thread. And that’s not what PJNB was doing.seanclax said:
 Surely the whole point of a tour rumor thread is to discuss the possibility of a tour happening.on2legs said:
 I don’t get that at all from his comment. PJNB is very active in the tour discussion threads and I think he’s just basing his comment on their past history. I think he’d be very pleased if the band toured Europe next year and he was wrong.seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Not a tour not happening.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 You seem new here. Welcome to the rumour thread when there are not any rumours.seanclax said:
 Maybe stay out of a rumour thread if your just gonna say you don't see it happeningPJNB said:
 You made a comment that apparently it’s not going to happen like I have some magic crystal ball and know what’s happening next year.seanclax said:
 I was pointing out that I'm not actually being negative when it comes to the tour.PJNB said:
 This is not about you. Stop taking things so personal here. If the shows happen in Europe next year I am happy for you guys and will try and make it over for a few shows!seanclax said:
 On the contrary I'm very excited/optimistic about the possibility of getting my london and Berlin shows next year.iOnlyownMymind said:
 Didn’t you just see the band live in Europe? How are you still this negative?seanclax said:
 The wierd this is that you'd probably rather they didn't tour next year just to be right.PJNB said:I bet they already have a road map of the next couple of years with tours. If they are knowingly coming back to Europe they would have postponed the shows like they did with Indy. Sure Jeff said something along the lines of hoping to comeback next year but I just can’t see Europe 2 years in a row especially with the sales they had.Maybe I am wrong….
 Apparently it's not gonna happen though.
 That said this is the rumour thread. At this point in the thread nothing is booked. There aren’t even any rumours of dates and cities for any shows out there yet. All we have is the Sphere, SA, and Jeff’s comments about hoping Europe happens. Thats it. It’s all speculation at this point. Welcome to the rumour thread and enjoy the grind looking for info until someone with some actual sources comes in here and blows our minds.Maybe take a step back until then. It is going to be awhile.Again
 It’s all speculation at this point
 It’s not personal
 Maybe stay out of the thread until there is more than speculation if you can’t handle someone posting they don’t think euro shows are happening next year.
 Or stay in it and act like it’s a personal attack on you if someone thinks Europe is not getting back to back years.Have fun!
 Where else are we supposed to talk about this.
 And it's you that can't seem to handle someone thinking differently to you.0
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            seanclax said:
 Pretty sure I said close the thread just once on one thread 🤷Zen23 said:
 Yep. Because it repeats itself over and over again in the same way. Someone doesn't share your opinion or has doubts. What follows is this "he has spoken" and "close the topic" nonsense.seanclax said:
 You read that whole conversation and deducted that I was the cynical one?Zen23 said:
 This cynical shit makes you really horny, doesn't it?seanclax said:
 When do they ever play festivals in the uk or Germany?Get_Right said:
 Yes, it is too soon. That is social media content. Hoping to return means nothing. They (probably management) may be mulling over offers from festivals all over the world for 2025. Once they pick a festival (or two, maybe three), then other dates will follow. If they pick a festival in the UK or Germany then people will complain they should have a more intimate 10C only show. It is all so predictable.seanclax said:
 It's not to soon when jeff mentioned london and Berlin for next year.Get_Right said:WAY too soon to be thinking about 2025. Just saying. Have at it though. My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024. My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024.
 Everything else Is guesswork
 Hey everyone let's just close this thread.
 We're obviously wasting our time here.
 Get_right has spoken
 But believe what ever nonsense you likeDidn't expect any other reaction. You cherry-pick a single part that suits you best, interpret it literally and meticulously in order to portray your counterpart as an idiot, and to let any criticism bounce off you. 0
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