The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,958
    Go Animal said:
    on2legs said:
    Get_Right said:
    MikeDigs said:
    The thread title really should be renamed to 2025 Tour "Hope" Thread.  Over the past 13+ pages, there has only been one rumor and that was for the Las Vegas Sphere.

    After the $$$$ success of Dead & Co., every major act is rumored to play there. I really hope PJ skips that temptation. 
    Like Matt said… it’s likely happening.  

    The venue is amazing. But I feel like for Pearl Jam to lean into what makes the venue great - the visuals - it actually detracts from what makes Pearl Jam great - a spontaneous and ever changing setlist.  As a novelty one of one show it would probably be pretty cool.  But a residency with a setlist that is static and needs to conform to a sophisticated video show is not how I prefer to consume my Pearl Jam.  Doesn’t mean others won’t love it and I’m sure it will sell out every show. Just not for me.  Which is fine.  
    Yeah, I'm not sure what they have cooked up for the visuals, but the current stuff on YouTube won't cut it. And they've already played the DTE card, so I'm hoping it would be something on par to what Dead & Co. did.
    Hardcore fans would riot (as they are now, lol) if it was a static setlist, but I think a few album shows mixed with hits & rarities would suffice. Put me down for Vs., Vitalogy, Yield & Gigaton :D (and sure, Ten, why not) ;)
    Hopefully they can serve two masters and come up with the right formula to make it work.   Fantastic visuals and a varied setlist would make a for a great show.  😄
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,958
    Get_Right said:
    on2legs said:
    Get_Right said:
    MikeDigs said:
    The thread title really should be renamed to 2025 Tour "Hope" Thread.  Over the past 13+ pages, there has only been one rumor and that was for the Las Vegas Sphere.

    After the $$$$ success of Dead & Co., every major act is rumored to play there. I really hope PJ skips that temptation. 
    Like Matt said… it’s likely happening.  

    The venue is amazing. But I feel like for Pearl Jam to lean into what makes the venue great - the visuals - it actually detracts from what makes Pearl Jam great - a spontaneous and ever changing setlist.  As a novelty one of one show it would probably be pretty cool.  But a residency with a setlist that is static and needs to conform to a sophisticated video show is not how I prefer to consume my Pearl Jam.  Doesn’t mean others won’t love it and I’m sure it will sell out every show. Just not for me.  Which is fine.  

    Exactly. I want to see the band. Not an Imax movie where Pearl Jam plays the soundtrack.
    IMAX movie might be a little too over the top a description.  If they could find a way to be spontaneous and vary the set lists it would be a fun run of shows.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    on2legs said:
    Get_Right said:
    on2legs said:
    Get_Right said:
    MikeDigs said:
    The thread title really should be renamed to 2025 Tour "Hope" Thread.  Over the past 13+ pages, there has only been one rumor and that was for the Las Vegas Sphere.

    After the $$$$ success of Dead & Co., every major act is rumored to play there. I really hope PJ skips that temptation. 
    Like Matt said… it’s likely happening.  

    The venue is amazing. But I feel like for Pearl Jam to lean into what makes the venue great - the visuals - it actually detracts from what makes Pearl Jam great - a spontaneous and ever changing setlist.  As a novelty one of one show it would probably be pretty cool.  But a residency with a setlist that is static and needs to conform to a sophisticated video show is not how I prefer to consume my Pearl Jam.  Doesn’t mean others won’t love it and I’m sure it will sell out every show. Just not for me.  Which is fine.  

    Exactly. I want to see the band. Not an Imax movie where Pearl Jam plays the soundtrack.
    IMAX movie might be a little too over the top a description.  If they could find a way to be spontaneous and vary the set lists it would be a fun run of shows.  

    Have you seen any of the footage from the Sphere?  The band is a spec amongst a massive screen. It is bigger than Imax. I thought that was underselling it. Think planetarium on steroids all around you of you instead of above you. I get why it worked for Dead & Co. but not sure it translates for Pearl Jam. I have always appreciated Pearl Jam's minimalist approach to their shows when it comes to bells and whistles.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,958
    Get_Right said:
    on2legs said:
    Get_Right said:
    on2legs said:
    Get_Right said:
    MikeDigs said:
    The thread title really should be renamed to 2025 Tour "Hope" Thread.  Over the past 13+ pages, there has only been one rumor and that was for the Las Vegas Sphere.

    After the $$$$ success of Dead & Co., every major act is rumored to play there. I really hope PJ skips that temptation. 
    Like Matt said… it’s likely happening.  

    The venue is amazing. But I feel like for Pearl Jam to lean into what makes the venue great - the visuals - it actually detracts from what makes Pearl Jam great - a spontaneous and ever changing setlist.  As a novelty one of one show it would probably be pretty cool.  But a residency with a setlist that is static and needs to conform to a sophisticated video show is not how I prefer to consume my Pearl Jam.  Doesn’t mean others won’t love it and I’m sure it will sell out every show. Just not for me.  Which is fine.  

    Exactly. I want to see the band. Not an Imax movie where Pearl Jam plays the soundtrack.
    IMAX movie might be a little too over the top a description.  If they could find a way to be spontaneous and vary the set lists it would be a fun run of shows.  

    Have you seen any of the footage from the Sphere?  The band is a spec amongst a massive screen. It is bigger than Imax. I thought that was underselling it. Think planetarium on steroids all around you of you instead of above you. I get why it worked for Dead & Co. but not sure it translates for Pearl Jam. I have always appreciated Pearl Jam's minimalist approach to their shows when it comes to bells and whistles.
    There’s very few one size fits all in life.  It may not be your bag.  And probably not mine.  But I know a lot of people are looking forward to it and those who don’t dig it have the option to skip it.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    I really want to get to Sphere and really do not want to see the Dead, Eagles, et al so that would be my motivation 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    I would not be going in expecting The Ultimate Pearl Jam Experience but seeing a wonder of a venue with music I like. Basically a Red Rocks pilgrimage on HGH.
  • stones
    stones Posts: 406
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    WAY too soon to be thinking about 2025. Just saying. Have at it though. =)  My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024.
    It's not to soon when jeff mentioned london and Berlin for next year.
    Everything else Is guesswork 
    Yes, it is too soon. That is social media content. Hoping to return means nothing. They (probably management) may be mulling over offers from festivals all over the world for 2025. Once they pick a festival (or two, maybe three), then other dates will follow. If they pick a festival in the UK or Germany then people will complain they should have a more intimate 10C only show. It is all so predictable.
    When do they ever play festivals in the uk or Germany?

    Hey everyone let's just close this thread.
    We're obviously wasting our time here.

    Get_right has spoken
    Taking the question at face value, festivals in the UK I know they have played because I went to them -

    Finsbury Park - 1993
    Reading and Leeds - 2006
    Hard Rock Calling - Hyde Park - 2010
    Isle of Wight Festival - 2012
    British Summer Time - Hyde Park - 2022
  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    stones said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    WAY too soon to be thinking about 2025. Just saying. Have at it though. =)  My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024.
    It's not to soon when jeff mentioned london and Berlin for next year.
    Everything else Is guesswork 
    Yes, it is too soon. That is social media content. Hoping to return means nothing. They (probably management) may be mulling over offers from festivals all over the world for 2025. Once they pick a festival (or two, maybe three), then other dates will follow. If they pick a festival in the UK or Germany then people will complain they should have a more intimate 10C only show. It is all so predictable.
    When do they ever play festivals in the uk or Germany?

    Hey everyone let's just close this thread.
    We're obviously wasting our time here.

    Get_right has spoken
    Taking the question at face value, festivals in the UK I know they have played because I went to them -

    Finsbury Park - 1993
    Reading and Leeds - 2006
    Hard Rock Calling - Hyde Park - 2010
    Isle of Wight Festival - 2012
    British Summer Time - Hyde Park - 2022
    Hyde park was more of a headline show. None of the big festivals are hiring pearl jam
  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    Get_Right said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    WAY too soon to be thinking about 2025. Just saying. Have at it though. =)  My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024.
    It's not to soon when jeff mentioned london and Berlin for next year.
    Everything else Is guesswork 
    Yes, it is too soon. That is social media content. Hoping to return means nothing. They (probably management) may be mulling over offers from festivals all over the world for 2025. Once they pick a festival (or two, maybe three), then other dates will follow. If they pick a festival in the UK or Germany then people will complain they should have a more intimate 10C only show. It is all so predictable.
    When do they ever play festivals in the uk or Germany?

    Hey everyone let's just close this thread.
    We're obviously wasting our time here.

    Get_right has spoken

    For better or worse, I have been following this band for a long time (yes, I am old). They have mentioned make-up gigs in the past to no avail. I do not pretend to know the UK or German festival market. Just saying, nothing is real with this band until it is. But by all means, if you have any real information, please share. It is fun to conjecture and try to guess. Have at it. 

    I have no information that it's happening just like you have no information that it is happening but this is a tour rumours thread so let people have hope.

    And we've all been following the band for a long time 🤷
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    That's exactly how you should let people have their doubts.
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    WAY too soon to be thinking about 2025. Just saying. Have at it though. =)  My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024.
    It's not to soon when jeff mentioned london and Berlin for next year.
    Everything else Is guesswork 
    Yes, it is too soon. That is social media content. Hoping to return means nothing. They (probably management) may be mulling over offers from festivals all over the world for 2025. Once they pick a festival (or two, maybe three), then other dates will follow. If they pick a festival in the UK or Germany then people will complain they should have a more intimate 10C only show. It is all so predictable.
    When do they ever play festivals in the uk or Germany?

    Hey everyone let's just close this thread.
    We're obviously wasting our time here.

    Get_right has spoken
    This cynical shit makes you really horny, doesn't it?
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    Sorry to be a voice of reason. Please carry on hoping they play near you in 2025.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,958
    Get_Right said:
    Sorry to be a voice of reason. Please carry on hoping they play near you in 2025.
    It’s a rumor thread so people want to discuss possible scenarios for shows next year.  It doesn’t really need a voice of reason that just throws cold water on the discussion.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • matt84
    matt84 Posts: 823
    Bruce is playing Wembley Stadium this year so I reckon he could be back at Hyde Park next year (as he’s definitely back in Europe for the make up dates), so it would be great if PJ played Hyde Park the same weekend.
  • tino_11
    tino_11 Posts: 2,184
    What are the opportunities for PJ to do something really iconic / be a major career milestone next year? Over the past 10-12 years we've had PJ20, the first Wrigley show and the Home Shows that I would put into this category (not talking about the quality of shows, this would be a different list). 

    Would the Sphere be this? The Gorge? PJ34? (just kidding!)
    'F*** the pessimists. F*** 'em.' Eddie Vedder
  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    Zen23 said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    WAY too soon to be thinking about 2025. Just saying. Have at it though. =)  My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024.
    It's not to soon when jeff mentioned london and Berlin for next year.
    Everything else Is guesswork 
    Yes, it is too soon. That is social media content. Hoping to return means nothing. They (probably management) may be mulling over offers from festivals all over the world for 2025. Once they pick a festival (or two, maybe three), then other dates will follow. If they pick a festival in the UK or Germany then people will complain they should have a more intimate 10C only show. It is all so predictable.
    When do they ever play festivals in the uk or Germany?

    Hey everyone let's just close this thread.
    We're obviously wasting our time here.

    Get_right has spoken
    This cynical shit makes you really horny, doesn't it?
    You read that whole conversation and deducted that I was the cynical one?
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    on2legs said:
    Get_Right said:
    Sorry to be a voice of reason. Please carry on hoping they play near you in 2025.
    It’s a rumor thread so people want to discuss possible scenarios for shows next year.  It doesn’t really need a voice of reason that just throws cold water on the discussion.  

    All good. Have at it. 
  • stones
    stones Posts: 406
    seanclax said:
    stones said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    WAY too soon to be thinking about 2025. Just saying. Have at it though. =)  My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024.
    It's not to soon when jeff mentioned london and Berlin for next year.
    Everything else Is guesswork 
    Yes, it is too soon. That is social media content. Hoping to return means nothing. They (probably management) may be mulling over offers from festivals all over the world for 2025. Once they pick a festival (or two, maybe three), then other dates will follow. If they pick a festival in the UK or Germany then people will complain they should have a more intimate 10C only show. It is all so predictable.
    When do they ever play festivals in the uk or Germany?

    Hey everyone let's just close this thread.
    We're obviously wasting our time here.

    Get_right has spoken
    Taking the question at face value, festivals in the UK I know they have played because I went to them -

    Finsbury Park - 1993
    Reading and Leeds - 2006
    Hard Rock Calling - Hyde Park - 2010
    Isle of Wight Festival - 2012
    British Summer Time - Hyde Park - 2022
    Hyde park was more of a headline show. None of the big festivals are hiring pearl jam
    Not looking to argue here but BST absolutely IS a big festival and they played it only 2 years ago...  OK it does feel like a PJ show similar to the show at MK Bowl, but thats just the format of the festival.  Its a series of one-day mini-festivals (or two-days in some cases like PJ or Bruce) but its still a festival where the headliners are paid to perform same as any other.

    Also FWIW it's the only way they get to play in Hyde Park (as others seem to want) and due to it's eclectic lineup it's less likely that PJ will be booked to headline again next year.  Too soon...
  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    stones said:
    seanclax said:
    stones said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    seanclax said:
    Get_Right said:
    WAY too soon to be thinking about 2025. Just saying. Have at it though. =)  My two cents is that the "tours" are based on the festivals. Track festival announcements and then other dates will follow. Hope they come to your area soon as they are in mine this September 2024.
    It's not to soon when jeff mentioned london and Berlin for next year.
    Everything else Is guesswork 
    Yes, it is too soon. That is social media content. Hoping to return means nothing. They (probably management) may be mulling over offers from festivals all over the world for 2025. Once they pick a festival (or two, maybe three), then other dates will follow. If they pick a festival in the UK or Germany then people will complain they should have a more intimate 10C only show. It is all so predictable.
    When do they ever play festivals in the uk or Germany?

    Hey everyone let's just close this thread.
    We're obviously wasting our time here.

    Get_right has spoken
    Taking the question at face value, festivals in the UK I know they have played because I went to them -

    Finsbury Park - 1993
    Reading and Leeds - 2006
    Hard Rock Calling - Hyde Park - 2010
    Isle of Wight Festival - 2012
    British Summer Time - Hyde Park - 2022
    Hyde park was more of a headline show. None of the big festivals are hiring pearl jam
    Not looking to argue here but BST absolutely IS a big festival and they played it only 2 years ago...  OK it does feel like a PJ show similar to the show at MK Bowl, but thats just the format of the festival.  Its a series of one-day mini-festivals (or two-days in some cases like PJ or Bruce) but its still a festival where the headliners are paid to perform same as any other.

    Also FWIW it's the only way they get to play in Hyde Park (as others seem to want) and due to it's eclectic lineup it's less likely that PJ will be booked to headline again next year.  Too soon...
    Could happen if Bruce plays aswell.
    I would think it'll be the o2 next year though 
  • Fredrick Goldberg
    Fredrick Goldberg Pittsburgh Posts: 78
    pjl44 said:
    I really want to get to Sphere and really do not want to see the Dead, Eagles, et al so that would be my motivation 
    +1