Who will be the Democratic nominee?

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  • seanwonseanwon Posts: 553
    I don't believe that for a second. Sorry.
    Believe it.  I never have and never would vote for Trump.  I have voted for just 1 Republican presidential candidate in my life.  I WASN'T voting for Biden, I will grudgingly vote for Harris.  But not excited about it.  And none of the liberals I know are excited about it, or the direction of the Dem party recently.  To be fair, none of the Cons I know are excited by the republican party in recent years either.  I suppose I am lucky to be surrounded by a lot of normal people, rather than people brainwashed by the far left and right. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,641
    seanwon said:
    Believe it.  I never have and never would vote for Trump.  I have voted for just 1 Republican presidential candidate in my life.  I WASN'T voting for Biden, I will grudgingly vote for Harris.  But not excited about it.  And none of the liberals I know are excited about it, or the direction of the Dem party recently.  To be fair, none of the Cons I know are excited by the republican party in recent years either.  I suppose I am lucky to be surrounded by a lot of normal people, rather than people brainwashed by the far left and right. 
    I just don't understand being that disconnected. One party favors people and the other favors one guy.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,641
    OnWis97 said:
    With Harris as the supposed running mate, I was kind of expecting Trump to pick a woman...and at that point, I thought looks would come into play which (while I find it generally gross to objectify this way but it applies to him), is why I never thought for a second it would be Stafinik and figured on Haley, Tulski, or Noem.* I think Vance was more of the "party" pick than the Trump pick, though. I truly believe he was picked because he thought Pence should have found a way to certify for Trump and that he will not certify 2028 for a Democrat regardless of how the votes go.

    *I wonder if the dog-shooting story cost her...
    yeah Tulsi was really pushing for that pick...she's probably bummed
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,641
    teskeinc said:
    It was between Rubio and Vance. Yeah Jr. wanted Vance but apparently the law that VP and President can’t reside in the same state played a big factor as well.
    That is easily solved though. 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • ZoSoTimZoSoTim Posts: 1,197
    edited July 2024
    Joe Biden
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,426
    teskeinc said:
    So qualified and unpopular that she dropped out before the first primary in 2020? I guess her on the job training working with Joe Biden for 3.5 years has made up for her failure in 2020 though.

    And as “Border Czar” did such a great job she didn’t need to go to the border and supervise the largest number of illegal immigrants coming in in our history. But tell us how great she is?
    did she call the speaker of the house and tell him to prevent the comprehensive immigration bill from coming to the floor?

    no. that was trump. he wanted the immigration issue to run on. you might want to look at who you are blaming the border "crisis" on. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,851
    teskeinc said:
    So qualified and unpopular that she dropped out before the first primary in 2020? I guess her on the job training working with Joe Biden for 3.5 years has made up for her failure in 2020 though.

    And as “Border Czar” did such a great job she didn’t need to go to the border and supervise the largest number of illegal immigrants coming in in our history. But tell us how great she is?
    Is it possible that it had nothing to do with your accusations but rather a personal or medical issue arose?  That’s possible, correct?  Her record makes her more than qualified for the position.  Did she make mistakes?  Only one person I believe in never made any mistakes.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,591
    Kamala Harris
    Is it possible that it had nothing to do with your accusations but rather a personal or medical issue arose?  That’s possible, correct?  Her record makes her more than qualified for the position.  Did she make mistakes?  Only one person I believe in never made any mistakes.  
    Santa?
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,851
    mrussel1 said:
    Santa?
    That’s absolutely correct!  Hahahaha 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,591
    Kamala Harris
    seanwon said:
    Believe it.  I never have and never would vote for Trump.  I have voted for just 1 Republican presidential candidate in my life.  I WASN'T voting for Biden, I will grudgingly vote for Harris.  But not excited about it.  And none of the liberals I know are excited about it, or the direction of the Dem party recently.  To be fair, none of the Cons I know are excited by the republican party in recent years either.  I suppose I am lucky to be surrounded by a lot of normal people, rather than people brainwashed by the far left and right. 
    Fair,  but you're replying to discussion with someone else.  That person believes Pelosi is blackmailing a federal judge to increase Huntet's sentence.  And that Harris "slept her way" to the top.  People who believe this nonsense are voting for Trump. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,426
    mrussel1 said:
    Fair,  but you're replying to discussion with someone else.  That person believes Pelosi is blackmailing a federal judge to increase Huntet's sentence.  And that Harris "slept her way" to the top.  People who believe this nonsense are voting for Trump. 
    agreed.

    people that are voting for trump are voting for trump. end of story. they are ungettable, so democrats should stop trying to sway them to their side. it isn't going to work.

    the people the dems need to engage are swing voters and reasonable people, and confused/dismayed republicans. those are the only gettable votes outside of the dem base. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,110
    Kamala Harris
    seanwon said:
    Believe it.  I never have and never would vote for Trump.  I have voted for just 1 Republican presidential candidate in my life.  I WASN'T voting for Biden, I will grudgingly vote for Harris.  But not excited about it.  And none of the liberals I know are excited about it, or the direction of the Dem party recently.  To be fair, none of the Cons I know are excited by the republican party in recent years either.  I suppose I am lucky to be surrounded by a lot of normal people, rather than people brainwashed by the far left and right. 

    I'm trying to follow the logic here, and I can't.
    I'm a centrist -- like, right down the middle, due south of center centrist. Obama was the first Democrat I voted for; Sarah Palin pushed me off of the fence. I still seek out centrist people because I like to consider diverse opinions. 
    I'm confused by the use of terminology above. Liberals aren't centrists. I'm not a liberal -- I'm a civil libertarian.
    In reality, there are a whole bunch of people who are part of a pro *democracy* (not Democrat -- democracy) movement who are trying to preserve small-d democratic norms and prevent an authoritarian takeover of our country. That movement encompasses everyone from AOC to Liz Cheney, and I defy anyone to call Liz Cheney a liberal to her face.
    There is one issue at stake this election, and it's not taxes, or inflation, or the price of gasoline, or drag queen story hour. Do you want to continue to live in a free country? Yes or no? That's the only question.
    If we stabilize things, we can get back to arguing about tax policy or federal regulations or whatever. I hope that happens.
    And, objectively, an empty chair is better than T---p. I can get in my car right now, drive to Target, and grab the first person I see and they will be better than T---p. The former president is manifestly unfit, as a human, to do anything: I wouldn't hire him to park cars let alone to sit on a corporate board or be POTUS. That has nothing to do with his policies -- he has no policies per se, beyond "what's in it for me?" He's a malignant narcissist and a sociopath who has defrauded people, cheated on his taxes, sexually assaulted women, cheated on his wives, tried to extort other countries, praised murderous tyrants, mocked our military, mishandled a pandemic leading to thousands of excess deaths, lacks empathy, intelligence, and curiosity, is profoundly vain, ignorant, and lazy.  He makes me miss George W Bush and want to come up with a list of nice things to say about W. His own Cabinet members referred to him as a "f---ing moron" and "not so much a person as a collection of terrible traits."
    You want to talk small government, lower taxes, fiscal restraint, tough stances against Russia? I'm all ears. Want to hear me say nice things about Republicans? Okay: Mitt Romney was right about Russia! I don't believe for a minute that W is a racist and I think he believed he was doing the right thing in Iraq (even though I vociferously disagree with that decision!). I admire Liz Cheney's courage and devotion to protecting the Constitution!
    This isn't about politics. It's about keeping one person from ending our 248 year experiment.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,641
    did she call the speaker of the house and tell him to prevent the comprehensive immigration bill from coming to the floor?

    no. that was trump. he wanted the immigration issue to run on. you might want to look at who you are blaming the border "crisis" on. 
    yeah and Lankford was fucking pissed...he was probably the most vocal republican about that bill.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,426
    yeah and Lankford was fucking pissed...he was probably the most vocal republican about that bill.
    surprised trump didn't call lankford names and have him run out of the party by now.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,851
    edited July 2024
    surprised trump didn't call lankford names and have him run out of the party by now.
    Donald is about revenge, retaliation.  He needs every last republican vote he can get right now.  If he wins, well we all know what’s next.  
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,426
    Donald is about revenge, retaliation.  He needs every last republican vote he can get right now.  If he wins, well we all know what’s next.  
    another night of the long knives? figuratively speaking, of course.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,188
    Kamala Harris

    I'm trying to follow the logic here, and I can't.
    I'm a centrist -- like, right down the middle, due south of center centrist. Obama was the first Democrat I voted for; Sarah Palin pushed me off of the fence. I still seek out centrist people because I like to consider diverse opinions. 
    I'm confused by the use of terminology above. Liberals aren't centrists. I'm not a liberal -- I'm a civil libertarian.
    In reality, there are a whole bunch of people who are part of a pro *democracy* (not Democrat -- democracy) movement who are trying to preserve small-d democratic norms and prevent an authoritarian takeover of our country. That movement encompasses everyone from AOC to Liz Cheney, and I defy anyone to call Liz Cheney a liberal to her face.
    There is one issue at stake this election, and it's not taxes, or inflation, or the price of gasoline, or drag queen story hour. Do you want to continue to live in a free country? Yes or no? That's the only question.
    If we stabilize things, we can get back to arguing about tax policy or federal regulations or whatever. I hope that happens.
    And, objectively, an empty chair is better than T---p. I can get in my car right now, drive to Target, and grab the first person I see and they will be better than T---p. The former president is manifestly unfit, as a human, to do anything: I wouldn't hire him to park cars let alone to sit on a corporate board or be POTUS. That has nothing to do with his policies -- he has no policies per se, beyond "what's in it for me?" He's a malignant narcissist and a sociopath who has defrauded people, cheated on his taxes, sexually assaulted women, cheated on his wives, tried to extort other countries, praised murderous tyrants, mocked our military, mishandled a pandemic leading to thousands of excess deaths, lacks empathy, intelligence, and curiosity, is profoundly vain, ignorant, and lazy.  He makes me miss George W Bush and want to come up with a list of nice things to say about W. His own Cabinet members referred to him as a "f---ing moron" and "not so much a person as a collection of terrible traits."
    You want to talk small government, lower taxes, fiscal restraint, tough stances against Russia? I'm all ears. Want to hear me say nice things about Republicans? Okay: Mitt Romney was right about Russia! I don't believe for a minute that W is a racist and I think he believed he was doing the right thing in Iraq (even though I vociferously disagree with that decision!). I admire Liz Cheney's courage and devotion to protecting the Constitution!
    This isn't about politics. It's about keeping one person from ending our 248 year experiment.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,641
    edited July 2024
    seanwon said:
    Believe it.  I never have and never would vote for Trump.  I have voted for just 1 Republican presidential candidate in my life.  I WASN'T voting for Biden, I will grudgingly vote for Harris.  But not excited about it.  And none of the liberals I know are excited about it, or the direction of the Dem party recently.  To be fair, none of the Cons I know are excited by the republican party in recent years either.  I suppose I am lucky to be surrounded by a lot of normal people, rather than people brainwashed by the far left and right. 
    I was talking to teske...are you also teske? I was basing that off of other things he said...not trying to suggest that you shouldn't comment.
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Other
    Zoinks! We’ve been had! Now if you can figure out my Dem and lefty liberal handles you’ll be the greatest sleuth of all time. 😂😂😂
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,189
    Joe Biden
    Pretty sure the question posed here has all but been answered.  Harris has over 1,150 delegates committed to her and six key democratic governors have endorsed her. 
    And the mood is shifting from questionable to energized and more optimistic.  Good!


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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,304
    Josh Shapiro
    agreed.

    people that are voting for trump are voting for trump. end of story. they are ungettable, so democrats should stop trying to sway them to their side. it isn't going to work.

    the people the dems need to engage are swing voters and reasonable people, and confused/dismayed republicans. those are the only gettable votes outside of the dem base. 
    To this point I would add I think Dems really need to focus on making the positive case for Harris and not just keep shit talking Trump. His favorables are well underwater. The problem is hers are too but I think she's in a much better position to reframe/reintroduce herself as a candidate.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,189
    edited July 2024
    Joe Biden
    pjl44 said:
    To this point I would add I think Dems really need to focus on making the positive case for Harris and not just keep shit talking Trump. His favorables are well underwater. The problem is hers are too but I think she's in a much better position to reframe/reintroduce herself as a candidate.

    It would be refreshing to have a campaign where the focus is on the candidates strength more than all the bashing of the other candidate.  good point, excellent thought, pjl!
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    Joe Biden

    I'm trying to follow the logic here, and I can't.
    I'm a centrist -- like, right down the middle, due south of center centrist. Obama was the first Democrat I voted for; Sarah Palin pushed me off of the fence. I still seek out centrist people because I like to consider diverse opinions. 
    I'm confused by the use of terminology above. Liberals aren't centrists. I'm not a liberal -- I'm a civil libertarian.
    In reality, there are a whole bunch of people who are part of a pro *democracy* (not Democrat -- democracy) movement who are trying to preserve small-d democratic norms and prevent an authoritarian takeover of our country. That movement encompasses everyone from AOC to Liz Cheney, and I defy anyone to call Liz Cheney a liberal to her face.
    There is one issue at stake this election, and it's not taxes, or inflation, or the price of gasoline, or drag queen story hour. Do you want to continue to live in a free country? Yes or no? That's the only question.
    If we stabilize things, we can get back to arguing about tax policy or federal regulations or whatever. I hope that happens.
    And, objectively, an empty chair is better than T---p. I can get in my car right now, drive to Target, and grab the first person I see and they will be better than T---p. The former president is manifestly unfit, as a human, to do anything: I wouldn't hire him to park cars let alone to sit on a corporate board or be POTUS. That has nothing to do with his policies -- he has no policies per se, beyond "what's in it for me?" He's a malignant narcissist and a sociopath who has defrauded people, cheated on his taxes, sexually assaulted women, cheated on his wives, tried to extort other countries, praised murderous tyrants, mocked our military, mishandled a pandemic leading to thousands of excess deaths, lacks empathy, intelligence, and curiosity, is profoundly vain, ignorant, and lazy.  He makes me miss George W Bush and want to come up with a list of nice things to say about W. His own Cabinet members referred to him as a "f---ing moron" and "not so much a person as a collection of terrible traits."
    You want to talk small government, lower taxes, fiscal restraint, tough stances against Russia? I'm all ears. Want to hear me say nice things about Republicans? Okay: Mitt Romney was right about Russia! I don't believe for a minute that W is a racist and I think he believed he was doing the right thing in Iraq (even though I vociferously disagree with that decision!). I admire Liz Cheney's courage and devotion to protecting the Constitution!
    This isn't about politics. It's about keeping one person from ending our 248 year experiment.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,189
    Joe Biden

    I'm trying to follow the logic here, and I can't.
    I'm a centrist -- like, right down the middle, due south of center centrist. Obama was the first Democrat I voted for; Sarah Palin pushed me off of the fence. I still seek out centrist people because I like to consider diverse opinions. 
    I'm confused by the use of terminology above. Liberals aren't centrists. I'm not a liberal -- I'm a civil libertarian.
    In reality, there are a whole bunch of people who are part of a pro *democracy* (not Democrat -- democracy) movement who are trying to preserve small-d democratic norms and prevent an authoritarian takeover of our country. That movement encompasses everyone from AOC to Liz Cheney, and I defy anyone to call Liz Cheney a liberal to her face.
    There is one issue at stake this election, and it's not taxes, or inflation, or the price of gasoline, or drag queen story hour. Do you want to continue to live in a free country? Yes or no? That's the only question.
    If we stabilize things, we can get back to arguing about tax policy or federal regulations or whatever. I hope that happens.
    And, objectively, an empty chair is better than T---p. I can get in my car right now, drive to Target, and grab the first person I see and they will be better than T---p. The former president is manifestly unfit, as a human, to do anything: I wouldn't hire him to park cars let alone to sit on a corporate board or be POTUS. That has nothing to do with his policies -- he has no policies per se, beyond "what's in it for me?" He's a malignant narcissist and a sociopath who has defrauded people, cheated on his taxes, sexually assaulted women, cheated on his wives, tried to extort other countries, praised murderous tyrants, mocked our military, mishandled a pandemic leading to thousands of excess deaths, lacks empathy, intelligence, and curiosity, is profoundly vain, ignorant, and lazy.  He makes me miss George W Bush and want to come up with a list of nice things to say about W. His own Cabinet members referred to him as a "f---ing moron" and "not so much a person as a collection of terrible traits."
    You want to talk small government, lower taxes, fiscal restraint, tough stances against Russia? I'm all ears. Want to hear me say nice things about Republicans? Okay: Mitt Romney was right about Russia! I don't believe for a minute that W is a racist and I think he believed he was doing the right thing in Iraq (even though I vociferously disagree with that decision!). I admire Liz Cheney's courage and devotion to protecting the Constitution!
    This isn't about politics. It's about keeping one person from ending our 248 year experiment.


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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,188
    Kamala Harris
    brianlux said:

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,426
    pjl44 said:
    To this point I would add I think Dems really need to focus on making the positive case for Harris and not just keep shit talking Trump. His favorables are well underwater. The problem is hers are too but I think she's in a much better position to reframe/reintroduce herself as a candidate.
    to this point i believe the gop should tell trump to tone down the violent and hateful rhetoric. he needs to be an adult for once and conduct himself like an adult and like a serious player on the world stage. dems cannot let it go unchecked or they will be called weak by trump.

    i think the dems actually know what they are doing with regard to their new strategy. 

    anybody that is positive on trump is a waste of time for democrats. they will not get those people.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,189
    Joe Biden
    to this point i believe the gop should tell trump to tone down the violent and hateful rhetoric. he needs to be an adult for once and conduct himself like an adult and like a serious player on the world stage. dems cannot let it go unchecked or they will be called weak by trump.

    i think the dems actually know what they are doing with regard to their new strategy. 

    anybody that is positive on trump is a waste of time for democrats. they will not get those people.

    More great discussion and comments.  Y'all are knockin' it out of the park.  Awesome!
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,304
    Josh Shapiro
    to this point i believe the gop should tell trump to tone down the violent and hateful rhetoric. he needs to be an adult for once and conduct himself like an adult and like a serious player on the world stage. dems cannot let it go unchecked or they will be called weak by trump.

    i think the dems actually know what they are doing with regard to their new strategy. 

    anybody that is positive on trump is a waste of time for democrats. they will not get those people.
    I agree with your last point entirely but based on everything that comes before it I am skeptical that Democrats know what they're doing but hope to be proven wrong 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,304
    Josh Shapiro
    I was really hoping things would get smart but I'm pessimistic that we're careening toward stupid


  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,110
    Kamala Harris
    brianlux said:

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     Week!
    Month!
    Hell, I've give ya the whole year!  Magnificent!  Mwwwwwwah!

    Aww, thanks, guys.
    I am motivated by a deep love of our Constitution and gratitude for the rights I have. I feel that the power our nation has comes with responsibility. I worry about what will happen, not only to people in the US, but to people in Ukraine, Moldova, the Baltics, Poland, and Taiwan if T---p is re-elected. And I think we ought to care about what happens to other humans. Everything else pales in comparison to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
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