Jon Tester calls for Biden to step down -> New vibe for Missoula show?

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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,696
    Go Beavers said:
    pjl44 said:
    Go Animal said:
    The fact that people could be a fan of this band, yet would still somehow vote for Trump & Republicans in 2024 astounds me to no end.
    It astounds you that music has broad appeal that transcends ideological differences?
    The mental gymnastics republican Pearl Jam fans have ti go through is entertaining. 
    It's really not hard to compartmentalize it. If your politics are right of center, 90% of your favorite artists are on the other side. You're connecting with something completely different than electoral politics
  • ComeToTX
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    DM282158 said:
    Contrary to the popular beliefs of our time, it’s OK to have friends, family members, people you look up to, sports figures you admire, and artists you love to have different ideologies than you may have. I have found it actually helps to establish a an open and empathetic mind. The ultimate sign of respect. 
    This isn’t about taxes and stuff like that. It’s about women receiving healthcare and mass deportations. People that support that have no place in my life. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 666
    ComeToTX said:
    DM282158 said:
    Contrary to the popular beliefs of our time, it’s OK to have friends, family members, people you look up to, sports figures you admire, and artists you love to have different ideologies than you may have. I have found it actually helps to establish a an open and empathetic mind. The ultimate sign of respect. 
    This isn’t about taxes and stuff like that. It’s about women receiving healthcare and mass deportations. People that support that have no place in my life. 
    And you’re free to not interact with those people. 

    (I’m not a Trump-supporter, for the record.)
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  • SandyRavage
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    Undone > Grievance > World Wide Suicide 
  • demetrios
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    Biden drops out of 2024 race, endorses Harris to be Democratic nominee

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/biden-drops-out-of-2024-race-endorses-harris-to-be-democratic-nominee-1.6972116
  • PJINFLA
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    Go Animal said:
    The fact that people could be a fan of this band, yet would still somehow vote for Trump & Republicans in 2024 astounds me to no end.
    Well then be astounded, some of us are not so narrow minded as those with blinders on.
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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,413
    pjl44 said:
    Go Animal said:
    The fact that people could be a fan of this band, yet would still somehow vote for Trump & Republicans in 2024 astounds me to no end.
    It astounds you that music has broad appeal that transcends ideological differences?
    Music as a whole can do so, in some instances. But this band very much leans towards social & societal justice, economic reform, and conservation of natural resources.

    Concepts that are utterly foreign to today's Republican party in an unquestionably demonstrative fashion.

    Can Porch, Yellow Ledbetter, Leash, Glorified G, Corduroy, Rival, Grievance, 1/2 Full, Bushleaguer, Green Disease, Unemployable, Gone, Down, Undone, Mind Your Manners, Infallible, and all of Gigaton really be going over that many peoples heads?
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,413
    PJINFLA said:
    Go Animal said:
    The fact that people could be a fan of this band, yet would still somehow vote for Trump & Republicans in 2024 astounds me to no end.
    Well then be astounded, some of us are not so narrow minded as those with blinders on.
    Narrow in what way? Because any person or party who would put that literal scum bag (and convicted felon) up as their pick to run the the freakin' COUNTRY isn't just narrow minded...

    they're malicious. 

    "There's a sucker born every minute"


    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,413
    Go Beavers said:
    pjl44 said:
    Go Animal said:
    The fact that people could be a fan of this band, yet would still somehow vote for Trump & Republicans in 2024 astounds me to no end.
    It astounds you that music has broad appeal that transcends ideological differences?
    The mental gymnastics republican Pearl Jam fans have ti go through is entertaining. 
    It's quite impressive. 
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    Go Animal said:
    pjl44 said:
    Go Animal said:
    The fact that people could be a fan of this band, yet would still somehow vote for Trump & Republicans in 2024 astounds me to no end.
    It astounds you that music has broad appeal that transcends ideological differences?
    Music as a whole can do so, in some instances. But this band very much leans towards social & societal justice, economic reform, and conservation of natural resources.

    Concepts that are utterly foreign to today's Republican party in an unquestionably demonstrative fashion.

    Can Porch, Yellow Ledbetter, Leash, Glorified G, Corduroy, Rival, Grievance, 1/2 Full, Bushleaguer, Green Disease, Unemployable, Gone, Down, Undone, Mind Your Manners, Infallible, and all of Gigaton really be going over that many peoples heads?
    how is porch a political song?  Is it because he wrote "pro choice" on his arm once while it was played 32 years ago?
    Corduroy and leash are in what way political?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,413
    DM282158 said:
    Contrary to the popular beliefs of our time, it’s OK to have friends, family members, people you look up to, sports figures you admire, and artists you love to have different ideologies than you may have. I have found it actually helps to establish a an open and empathetic mind. The ultimate sign of respect. 
    I actually agree with this. I could actually talk to old school Republicans and find common ground and that doesn't exist anymore. It died with John McCain.

    The party of Lincoln is now the party of Trump. And no one benefits from it, save for Trump himself.
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,413
    mcgruff10 said:
    Go Animal said:
    pjl44 said:
    Go Animal said:
    The fact that people could be a fan of this band, yet would still somehow vote for Trump & Republicans in 2024 astounds me to no end.
    It astounds you that music has broad appeal that transcends ideological differences?
    Music as a whole can do so, in some instances. But this band very much leans towards social & societal justice, economic reform, and conservation of natural resources.

    Concepts that are utterly foreign to today's Republican party in an unquestionably demonstrative fashion.

    Can Porch, Yellow Ledbetter, Leash, Glorified G, Corduroy, Rival, Grievance, 1/2 Full, Bushleaguer, Green Disease, Unemployable, Gone, Down, Undone, Mind Your Manners, Infallible, and all of Gigaton really be going over that many peoples heads?
    how is porch a political song?  Is it because he wrote "pro choice" on his arm once while it was played 32 years ago?
    Corduroy and leash are in what way political?
    "All the bills go by and initiatives are taken up
    By the middle; there ain't gonna be any middle anymore    "

    Ed correctly predicting the erosion of the middle class. The President at the time? Bush 41. The public display from Unplugged was just a little extra declaration of the song's message: things are changing rapidly and you should let people know how you feel. Loved ones, or otherwise.

    "And the cross I'm bearin' home ain't indicative of my place/Left the porch, left the porch" 

    The disconnect of middle America by the religious right has been ever present since the end of the Vietnam War. A theme later revisited in Yellow Ledbetter. Believe it or not, you would still get looked down upon in some parts of the country for having long hair. And those parts were deep red. 

    Porch & YL were attempts to bridge the divide, but also show that said divide still exists.


    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • patkelly12
    patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    I hope Middle America enjoys Platinum Pricing. It's evolution Baby.
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,413
    Corduroy didn't start as a political song, but it has become one with time.

    When Ed sings "absolutely nothing's changed" or "EVERYTHING'S changed". It's a commentary on the american political system, and how we need to be the architects of change ourselves.

    Also, when he sings "can't find what I want because it's peace, man!" That is an inherently anti-war message, and you can't get more political than that.

    -------

    I'm actually surprised that people WOULDN'T consider Leash a political song.

    It fits perfectly on a playlist with Alice Cooper's "Elected". Just needs Ed in an Uncle Sam hat.

    It's not just an angry song, it's a call to arms for young people & has been for 30 years. Stay angry, and do something about it. Get involved. Makes shit happen. Ed & the band are by your side, even if most politicians aren't. 


    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,413
    patkelly12 said:
    I hope Middle America enjoys Platinum Pricing. It's evolution Baby.
    If there's anything I've made perfectly clear on this board, it's this: F*** Platinum Pricing🙃

    I pay face value, and advocate for others to do the same😘
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,690
    edited July 2024
    pjl44 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    pjl44 said:
    Go Animal said:
    The fact that people could be a fan of this band, yet would still somehow vote for Trump & Republicans in 2024 astounds me to no end.
    It astounds you that music has broad appeal that transcends ideological differences?
    The mental gymnastics republican Pearl Jam fans have ti go through is entertaining. 
    It's really not hard to compartmentalize it. If your politics are right of center, 90% of your favorite artists are on the other side. You're connecting with something completely different than electoral politics
    And what’s your theory as to why this is? 
    Post edited by Go Beavers on
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 12,195
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EkTqoke-s

  • trees
    trees Columbus OHIO Posts: 2,080
    What does the 34 jersey represent 


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    Bu$hleaguer song time fits the situation 


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  • trees
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    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    PJINFLA said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
    Good to see that Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well!
    Make sure to keep your focus on all the things you despise about Trump. 
    No need to worry about the meltdown within the Democratic party since they were exposed to all of America at the debate.
    34 felonies, 10 thousands lies and doesn’t believe in democracy. Hell of a candidate. Absolute joke of a person. Just watch his RNC speech, haha. 
    Can't stand too watch or listen to this Clown .
    Or serious punk


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