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Jon Tester calls for Biden to step down -> New vibe for Missoula show?

SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,007
edited July 22 in The Porch
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/us/politics/senator-tester-montana-biden.html

Given Missoula will be PJ's first time back on stage after recent events have happened, and given the bands history of not only openly supporting Montana Senator Jon Tester, but also openly supporting current president Joe Biden, could we possibly see the bands first politically charged setlist in awhile?

I'm not asking them to take a stance on anything thats currently happening, even though we should know by now how they feel. I'm more so asking if they would put their music where their mouth is so to speak. Riot Act songs? Gigaton? Insignificance? W.M.A in full? 

I'm sure Ed might be a little more vocal on this night, possibly sporting the 34 jersey once again, but I think if the opportunity ever presented itself to put the music they've written about this type of stuff on display, their previous political stances are staring them right in the face at this particular show... 

There are still 34 days until the show, and if the last month is anything to go off of, the whole landscape of the world can change in a couple of minutes. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,076
    edited July 19
    What is "this stuff"? How many songs have they written about presidents stepping down from being the nominee or not stepping down?
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  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,007
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What is "this stuff"? How many songs have they written about presidents stepping down from being the nominee or not stepping down?
    Doesn't necessarily have to be about that in particular, i meant politically charged songs in general 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,763
    I think Ed learned his lesson at Uniondale 2003. Do not get into specifics and encourage voting in general. 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,136
    The Missoula show is the last night of the DNC so it should be ironed out by then. If not maybe they could drop a couple songs and break down the polling, etc.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,136
    I think they'll open with four songs then play Scared of Fear and then React, Respond and then
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,862
    edited July 19
    Get_Right said:
    I think Ed learned his lesson at Uniondale 2003. Do not get into specifics and encourage voting in general. 
    Yeah, they didn’t do vote for change in 2004 or multiple Tester benefits , Ed hasn’t played Obama fundraisers or any other get out the vote speeches. Didn’t write a song Can’t Deny Me etc etc etc. 
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,763
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Get_Right said:
    I think Ed learned his lesson at Uniondale 2003. Do not get into specifics and encourage voting in general. 
    Yeah, they didn’t do vote for change in 2004 or multiple Tester benefits , Ed hasn’t played Obama fundraisers or any other get out the vote speeches. Didn’t write a song Can’t Deny Me etc etc etc. 
    True. But I do not see a setlist being put together to address the political situation as the OP suggests. It will be interesting to see if EV bashes Trump during the shows. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,610
    I think the only lesson they learned from Uniondale 2003 is that they were correct and the audience was wrong.

  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946
    The only way Tester gets elected every 6 years is if he gives Montana republicans some nuggets to pull in just enough to eek out a win. The band knows this as well. 
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,757
    Stone had a petition for Biden drop out in his instagram story last week
    I miss igotid88
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,862
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,147
    igotid88 said:
    Stone had a petition for Biden drop out in his instagram story last week
    IMO, dude needs to step down. Have someone else run the Democrat Party.

    It's elder abuse what that party is doing.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,610
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
    He's been a political known quantity for 8 years. The people who support him are all in and it says more about them than him. 
     
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,610
    edited July 19
    demetrios said:
    igotid88 said:
    Stone had a petition for Biden drop out in his instagram story last week
    IMO, dude needs to step down. Have someone else run the Democrat Party.

    It's elder abuse what that party is doing.
    The only thing thats forcing him to stay in is ego, and the advisors who don't want to lose their jobs. Its more clear every hour, the establishment (but mainly the mega donors and bundlers) would like him to step aside. 

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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,757
    Tim Simmons said:
    demetrios said:
    igotid88 said:
    Stone had a petition for Biden drop out in his instagram story last week
    IMO, dude needs to step down. Have someone else run the Democrat Party.

    It's elder abuse what that party is doing.
    The only thing thats forcing him to stay in is ego, and the advisors who don't want to lose their jobs. Its more clear every hour, the establishment (but mainly the mega donors and bundlers) would like him to step aside. 

    I would like him to stay
    I miss igotid88
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,610
    I would too if he were 10 years younger, but he doesn’t have the juice anymore.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
    It’s what republicans want and they’re counting on JD Vance to carry the torch. 
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,862
    Go Beavers said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
    It’s what republicans want and they’re counting on JD Vance to carry the torch. 
    That guys speech was so riveting that Trump fell asleep during his RNC speech. Also we all have access to what Vance said about Trump. Clown Show 24
  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,007
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRugvx5OUU0


  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,136
    edited July 20
    Tim Simmons said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
    He's been a political known quantity for 8 years. The people who support him are all in and it says more about them than him. 
     
    His approval ratings have been underwater for about as long. And yet Democrats refuse to reckon with why they're still trailing despite that.
  • PJINFLAPJINFLA Posts: 724
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
    Good to see that Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well!
    Make sure to keep your focus on all the things you despise about Trump. 
    No need to worry about the meltdown within the Democratic party since they were exposed to all of America at the debate.
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,862
    PJINFLA said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
    Good to see that Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well!
    Make sure to keep your focus on all the things you despise about Trump. 
    No need to worry about the meltdown within the Democratic party since they were exposed to all of America at the debate.
    34 felonies, 10 thousands lies and doesn’t believe in democracy. Hell of a candidate. Absolute joke of a person. Just watch his RNC speech, haha. 
  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,589
    You can say much about the US election, but the entertainment value is certainly sky high. As sad as that is, I find it hard to root for any of the camps. 
    The republicans will most likely win this one. 
    I will swallow poison
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,520
    Get_Right said:
    I think Ed learned his lesson at Uniondale 2003. Do not get into specifics and encourage voting in general. 

    And…we’ll never see them here again, thanks politics. And the alleged birthplace of the PJ name, ironically.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,610
    PJINFLA said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    I know Biden isn’t perfect and legitimate concern regarding his age but anyone that would still vote for Trump after last nights wacko speech is beyond me. Forget the felony charges, insurrection, 2x impeached, abuse conviction and lies and hate rhetoric, Trump is a nut. 
    Good to see that Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well!
    Make sure to keep your focus on all the things you despise about Trump. 

    This is my favorite go to Pro-Trump move. As if people don’t have legitimate gripes about him. 
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Posts: 7,750
    edited July 20
    Niko80 said:
    You can say much about the US election, but the entertainment value is certainly sky high. As sad as that is, I find it hard to root for any of the camps. 
    The republicans will most likely win this one. 
    One camp wants to end democracy and is saying it out loud. Trump sucks up to Russia and NK. If you can’t root against that then I can’t help you. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
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