Berlin Officially Cancelled
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WhyNotSweden said:He’s doing paintings, can’t be that sick 🤷♀️Again, I'm just guessing based on his comment on his post this morning; I have ZERO direct knowledge. That said, have you never had a cold/flu/covid? I'm one of the lucky people who tends to be sick for a few months after a cold, because it turns into pneumonia, and I still have the energy while sick to make myself some oatmeal, take a shower, read a book -- but not to leave the house, run a race, get a workout.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0
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Just curious, how are the ticket sales for the remaining shows?
London sales were low/bad but Berlin also didn't sell that great.
Ticket sales or lack thereof and sicknesses just a coincidence I guess
Sucks for all involved, no other way around itTweeter Center - Aug 29, 2000;Tweeter Center - Aug 30, 2000;Allstate Arena - Oct 09, 2000;Pepsi Arena - Apr 29, 2003;Bryce-Jordan Center - May 03, 2003;Bell Center - Jun 29, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 02, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 03, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 11, 2003;Tweeter Center at the Waterfront - Jul 05, 2003;Tweeter Center at the Waterfront - Jul 06, 2003;Madison Square Garden - Jul 08, 2003;Madison Square Garden - Jul 09, 2003;TD Banknorth Garden - May 24, 2006;TD Banknorth Garden - May 25, 2006;Fleet Center - Sept 28, 2004;Fleet Center - Sept 29, 2004;Pepsi Arena - May 12, 2006 New England Dodge Music Arena - May 13, 2006;Grant Park - Aug 05, 2007;Bonnaroo - Jun 14, 2008;Dodge Music Center - Jun 27, 2008;Tweeter Center - Jun 28, 2008;Tweeter Center - Jun 30, 2008 XL Arena - May 15, 2010;TD Garden - May 17, 2010;Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sept 03, 2011;Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011 Corel Centre - Sep 16, 2005;Colisee Pepsi Arena - Sep 20, 2005; Wrigley Field - July 19, 2013; DCU Center - Oct 15, 2013; DCU Center - Oct 16, 2013; Fenway Park - August 5, 2016; Fenway Park - August 7, 2016
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BlueLedbetter said:Froggie said:How sick can he be if he’s drawing and posting on IG?!0
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BlueLedbetter said:Froggie said:How sick can he be if he’s drawing and posting on IG?!0
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Froggie said:
But I don’t think it would be in good taste to be posting on IG considering the disruption and upset these cancellations cause."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
DL136722 said:Just curious, how are the ticket sales for the remaining shows?
London sales were low/bad but Berlin also didn't sell that great.
Ticket sales or lack thereof and sicknesses just a coincidence I guess
Sucks for all involved, no other way around itI was thinking about this earlier.When Ed's voice went at the first of the two London o2 shows and the second night was cancelled, they rescheduled the second night for a few weeks later but the difference between then and now, is that the the gig was sold out. People have said a couple of page's back, that Springsteen rescheduled his shows but those shows had also sold well.Could it be something to do with the promoters insurance, where they don't actually want to reschedule a show that has sold badly and it makes more sense for them financially, to take the insurance pay out and just let the poorly selling gig die a death completely? Obviously it would appear to be better for Ticketmaster, as they won't be paying any of their fees back to the fans, so they in effect, get an opportunity to earn another set of fees the next time the band actually do play in London or Berlin and if the shows had been rescheduled, then this wouldn't be case.I'm not suggesting that this is the case, rather, I'm just wondering how much of an effect the poor ticket sales have had on any decision not to reschedule, if any at all?Post edited by Paul Spencer on0 -
Ticketmaster doesn’t refund the fees for the cancelled shows?0
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I’m so sorry gang…. Lose / lose for all involved.0
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Merkin Baller said:Ticketmaster doesn’t refund the fees for the cancelled shows?2010: Cleveland
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Weston1283 said:Merkin Baller said:Ticketmaster doesn’t refund the fees for the cancelled shows?0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:Froggie said:
But I don’t think it would be in good taste to be posting on IG considering the disruption and upset these cancellations cause.0 -
Merkin Baller said:Weston1283 said:Merkin Baller said:Ticketmaster doesn’t refund the fees for the cancelled shows?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Paul Spencer said:DL136722 said:Just curious, how are the ticket sales for the remaining shows?
London sales were low/bad but Berlin also didn't sell that great.
Ticket sales or lack thereof and sicknesses just a coincidence I guess
Sucks for all involved, no other way around itI was thinking about this earlier.When Ed's voice went at the first of the two London o2 shows and the second night was cancelled, they rescheduled the second night for a few weeks later but the difference between then and now, is that the the gig was sold out. People have said a couple of page's back, that Springsteen rescheduled his shows but those shows had also sold well.Could it be something to do with the promoters insurance, where they don't actually want to reschedule a show that has sold badly and it makes more sense for them financially, to take the insurance pay out and just let the poorly selling gig die a death completely? Obviously it would appear to be better for Ticketmaster, as they won't be paying any of their fees back to the fans, so they in effect, get an opportunity to earn another set of fees the next time the band actually do play in London or Berlin and if the shows had been rescheduled, then this wouldn't be case.I'm not suggesting that this is the case, rather, I'm just wondering how much of an effect the poor ticket sales have had on any decision not to reschedule, if any at all?0 -
reismann said:JackD. said:Weston1283 said:JackD. said:Spiritual_Chaos said:JackD. said:Rescheduling not possible? Waldbühne and Wuhlheide both available after NOS Alive.
They don‘t want to. This European tour has done more damage to the fanbase than to Ed‘s voice. Everything was cursed and fucked up from the very beginning.
Theres no postponement for 2025 because there’s a good chance Europe won’t get PJ again until 2027/2028 based on how the band is operating now
But they don‘t care. I get it.Turn this anger into
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Merkin Baller said:Ticketmaster doesn’t refund the fees for the cancelled shows?
Eventim (in Germany) does/did the same and tries/tried to keep their fees for cancelled shows (while refunding the price on the ticket only). However, since they face a so-called "Musterfeststellungsklage" under German law (some kind of consumer protection class action) in 2023, they have started to (reluctantly) refund the fees in case of a show cancellation (if you tell them that you might consider to take part in the class action... and of course they do it without acknowleding any legal obligations... worked for me in the past in several cases and for my father as well).
Ticketmaster GmbH (who sold my tickets or acted as an intermediary) are a corporation under German law and my contract should be governed by German law as well. I wait and see how they handle it. If the don't refund my fees (I had 2 orders for every Berlin evening because I bought 10C tix and additional tix for friends and family) I might discuss this consumer protection question with them in more depth.Post edited by someonesbrain on0 -
Vedd Hedd said:reismann said:JackD. said:Weston1283 said:JackD. said:Spiritual_Chaos said:JackD. said:Rescheduling not possible? Waldbühne and Wuhlheide both available after NOS Alive.
They don‘t want to. This European tour has done more damage to the fanbase than to Ed‘s voice. Everything was cursed and fucked up from the very beginning.
Theres no postponement for 2025 because there’s a good chance Europe won’t get PJ again until 2027/2028 based on how the band is operating now
But they don‘t care. I get it.0 -
pdalowsky said:Vedd Hedd said:reismann said:JackD. said:Weston1283 said:JackD. said:Spiritual_Chaos said:JackD. said:Rescheduling not possible? Waldbühne and Wuhlheide both available after NOS Alive.
They don‘t want to. This European tour has done more damage to the fanbase than to Ed‘s voice. Everything was cursed and fucked up from the very beginning.
Theres no postponement for 2025 because there’s a good chance Europe won’t get PJ again until 2027/2028 based on how the band is operating now
But they don‘t care. I get it.
Situation sucks for all. I hope whoever is ill returns to health and as quickly as possible.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Sucks to hear
I hope everyone is OK and feels 100% soon!
Sorry to hear for the fans with tickets, especially those who have travelled.0 -
It's an unfortunate situation all around.
4 shows over the next two weeks.
I hate to say it, and I sure as hell hope it doesn't happen, but folks should be prepared for these remaining European shows to be cancelled. If multiple band members are that sick, it's unlikely that they'll be at 100% by the 6th. By the time Barcelona comes, it will be a week and a half since the last show. If someone is that sick, it'll take more than 2 weeks just for the symptoms of whatever it is to completely go away, never mind to get back to normal. Getting better is one thing, but getting better enough to run around on stage for 2 and a half hours is something else.
May your days be long, til kingdom come.0
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