---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

gimmesometruth27 said:

i don't think anybody could have done any better in that debate last night. put yourself in biden's position. you are trying to debate a man that:

1. does not answer any questions. only goes back to the prior question.
2. takes personal shots at you, your family/dead son/felon son, and the speaker of the house, which happens to be a good friend.
3. spews a fountain of bullshit and lies so fast that you can't process it and fact check it in a reply as fast in your 1 minute rebuttal.

biden was awful last night, but he had substance and talked policy. trump did not. trump looked like a bully and an asshole. constantly inflating numbers of illegal immigrants, one time it was 15 million, another time he said 18 million, it was all bullshit. also the abortions done after birth? trump is just spouting bullshit. just like his tarriffs argument. he does not know how they work. 

he said he didn't have sex with a porn star. motherfucker is guilty of covering up that story and is now a felon.

cincybearcat said:

darwinstheory said:

OnWis97 said:

I suspect the Dem establishment is talking feverishly right now about whether there are any options.

I just don't think there really are any.

There is 1 option. And it is essentially fool proof...except for the fact that former first lady Michelle Obama does not desire her own run at the White House.

It basically the only move that keep Trump out of the White House IMO. But I don’t know shit about how Americans will vote anymore 

jimjam1982 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Here’s my production. Within the next 4 weeks they announce a new candidate with Kamala still VP.
They’ll spend the next couple weeks deciding who it is and convincing Biden to drop out on his own and make it his decision. 

That would be a smart move, especially leaving Kamala in as VP and not giving here the nomination to run for president.  She would not have a chance in hell of beating Trump (and I don't say that as a slam on her.  It's just the truth.)

They could just replace Kamala with a moderate Democrat not from that shithole California who isn't tied to progressives. She is useless and this is a direct slam on her. Then moderate swing voters would be more comfortable with sleepy Joe knowing a solid backup is right there to invoke the 25th since Biden is essentially incapacitated. They should do it now but they know Kamala sinks her party.

This election is all about the VPs.

pjhawks said:

mace1229 said:

Here’s my production. Within the next 4 weeks they announce a new candidate with Kamala still VP.
They’ll spend the next couple weeks deciding who it is and convincing Biden to drop out on his own and make it his decision. 

The Dems fucked this up royally and may have destroyed the country in the process. No way Biden should have been more than a 1 term President. That should have been the stance since 2020 election.  Now they either stay with a guy who has no chance of lasting 4 more years or replacing him 4 months before the general election. What a disaster. 

And who is the choice? Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg (my choice), Whitmer?   I also saw some mentions that their is a gray area in having a Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidate from the same state so if they choose Newsom they may have to replace Harris as well.  

cutz said:

cutz said:

Tonight's Debate

Winner= Both ?(Depends on which side you prefer ?)

Losers=American citizens?(Man, I HOPE not)

I was wrong, were ALL losers.

Biden is lost and Trump is a POS.

In a lot of ways I don't even want to Vote this year. (But, I probably will)

What a disaster and an embarasment last night's Debate was.

How many people live in the Country? ONLY over 300 MIL and this is the best we can come up with?

lindamarie73 said:

Anyone wanna throw some real skin in the game and state they will leave the USA if Donald wins the election in November?  I’d imagine it’s Gotta be real tough having Orange man bad syndrome after last night.  I have heard Venezuela loves Americans….This place is about to get real interesting in coming months.  

lindamarie73 said:

Anyone wanna throw some real skin in the game and state they will leave the USA if Donald wins the election in November?  I’d imagine it’s Gotta be real tough having Orange man bad syndrome after last night.  I have heard Venezuela loves Americans….This place is about to get real interesting in coming months.  

mace1229 said:

pjhawks said:

mace1229 said:

Here’s my production. Within the next 4 weeks they announce a new candidate with Kamala still VP.
They’ll spend the next couple weeks deciding who it is and convincing Biden to drop out on his own and make it his decision. 

The Dems fucked this up royally and may have destroyed the country in the process. No way Biden should have been more than a 1 term President. That should have been the stance since 2020 election.  Now they either stay with a guy who has no chance of lasting 4 more years or replacing him 4 months before the general election. What a disaster. 

And who is the choice? Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg (my choice), Whitmer?   I also saw some mentions that their is a gray area in having a Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidate from the same state so if they choose Newsom they may have to replace Harris as well.  

I could have sworn Biden said several times he was only running for one term back in 2020 to get rid of Trump. But I can’t find any video or articles of him saying that. So maybe I just assumed he wouldn’t be running again.