*** SACRAMENTO - 2024 SETLIST THREAD ***

vedpunk said:

It’s another case of PJ First World Problems.  How dare they only play 12-15 unique songs from one show to another.  That was not my expectations! Lol

What makes you think this change shouldn’t be something that fans discuss on a fan board about the setlist? 

Also just to add. 4 shows in they already played 60 different songs. There is no band aside from perhaps Modest Mouse (and they are more indie) on a scale of Pearl Jam to give you that. 

Btw, please go and see Modest Mouse. One of the most underrated rock bands out there. They are fantastic most nights. 

nicknyr15 said:

MS4677 said:

I certainly would NOT recommend going to a U2 show then with only 2 rotating songs each tour over the past 3 decades.  Maybe Eddie going to the sphere show and one too many convesations with Bono contaminated him? Video sceens, bells and whistles, more predictable setlists!? 

It’s about expectations. I saw all 8 shows at msg in 2015 knowing u2 doesn’t mix up sets. I had the time of my life. Pearl have set a certain expectation so when there’s a huge change you should expect fans to discuss it respectfully 

Very true. Big U2 fan my entire life and would attend many shows each tour. The current change may be hard for some to digest but need to keep some perspective I think 

And all of the above said we are only 4 shows into a long touring year for these guys. It might change it might not. Still worthy of a friendly discussion imo. 

It’s a different tour. First, they’re promoting a new album! It’s the first time in 10.5 years the band is on a real album tour. Second, they’ve added visuals to the show. They spent the time/money to develop material for certain songs they want to emphasize so those songs are going to be a part of most night’s sets.

marumaruko said:

Also just to add. 4 shows in they already played 60 different songs. There is no band aside from perhaps Modest Mouse (and they are more indie) on a scale of Pearl Jam to give you that. 

There's a few that come to mind (Phish, Bruce, Dave Matthews, Dead), and I'm 100% sure all of those fan bases would have the same reaction that some PJ fans (myself included) are having to these more stagnant setlists. Bruce's 2023 tour is a pretty good example, Setlist was almost entirely stagnant all year, and a lot of the fans were pretty frustrated and bummed, lamenting the end of the Bruce shows of old. 

I was definitely expecting a lot of DM material, but certainly wasn't expecting the same songs in the same slots every night. That said, aside from the overall song percentage due to shorter shows it's not insanely far off what they've done in the past. In 2010 I saw 8 Backpsacer songs in a single show, In 2013, it was 5-8 songs per show with LB and MYM almost always played together, Even Flow almost always paired with Sirens. Yellow Moon and Future Days in the encore. Hopefully they'll start to move stuff around a bit more by the fall, but if not, I'll be fine just seeing my 3 shows and will likely stop considering trying to get to the East Coast. Plus, if they play HTI in Vegas I can probably just stop seeing them and be happy lol.

I have a hard time with the "you can't complain, it's disrespectful" attitude. Sure, they can play what they want, and sure, we don't have to go. But what's the point of having a fan forum if not to discuss what they're doing. Active and engaged fan bases lead to forums like this, and without the variety I'm sure this place would be way less active.

I'm also all for healthy discussions, but the meritless rants just create further frustration. I'm a relatively new member, as well, but I am so surprised how negative many of the recent discussions are. I do read many old threads, as well, and it wasn't like this. 

I think expectation management is key. Surely it is a bummer to spend 20k a tour for 6 or more shows and then hear 'only 70ish different songs', but that's where it begins for me. Spending that much money on one band is a bit crazy, no? 
And surely a more singular occurrence than the rule, so the band targeting the majority (one or two show goers) with setlists should be just fine.

Besides the point, but
If I had that much cash, I would rather give it to Vitalogy than throwing it all on being at different shows during one tour. But freedom of choice, right? 
And the freedom of choosing happiness over frustration. 

marumaruko said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Gern Blansten said:

Then by all means stop buying tickets...leaves more for the rest of us

The whole point is that majority of this community is seeing many many shows each tour, myself included, because of the unknown set lists. For example, using the band as an excuse to go to Europe or Australia. The incentive now to travel to get uniqueness has dwindled….which eventually leads to the band losing money. 

Oh wow, the entitlement of the traveling fans. Sure, complaining is an option, but not going is also. No one asks you guys to go out of your way to buy tickets to all the shows. 
Every show will give you something different, but they really like this record and that's why they are playing the hell out of it. It's great to see. Think the last time this really happened was during the Avocado tour. 
Overall, I think if it comes to the point that you as a person see yourself as a vital part of a live concert when you are not part of the band, then you are taking it too far. People will go, people will enjoy, you going and not enjoying because of setlist variety is doing yourself more of a disservice than to the band. 
Damn, I know groupies were a thing a few decades ago, but Pearl Jam seem to have the worst kind of groupies.

Easy to say in hindsight. Tickets go on sale in February, first 4 shows in May, and now it’s “well why did you buy tickets?”. Like we were able to predict the predictability? After 2023 I didn’t think this is where we would be. If the band came out and said 70% of each show will be the same, they wouldn’t have sold as many tickets. Let’s face it, the band is lucky to have us traveling fans. Sorry if that’s “entitled” but it is true. 

Myself and the other fans showing concerns about the set list predictability never said we wouldn’t enjoy the show. We’ve said multiple times we are still going to rock out, just might change the amount of times we rock out.

The U2 comment - I wouldn’t go see them 8x. With their set lists, I would only want to see them once. And that’s fine! Springsteen was very predictable for the first time in a while. My dad would usually go to 5-10 shows a tour for his set list variety. He went to two. 

So, yeah... Sacramento!