Agree, let’s wait and see. Side note, I love your username lol.Getoutofmyfuckinface said:I see what your saying but in all fairness its still early in the tour. Id be surprised if we dont get more variation (dark matter stuff excluded) going froward. The real test will be the 2 night stops coming up here in vegas and seattle. Lets just see what they have in store for us.devonfz said:Come on let’s be honest you’re playing basically the same songs every night maybe a couple on the slow openers are being a variety but the rest of the show is basically the same alive porch do the evolution given to fly, elderly, etc.. my complaint is there is 60 or so songs that they appear to never gonna play again, except for maybe once a TOUR at the most and even then they’ll probably fuck it up M
I'm in the same boat, Sacramento was my 36th time seeing them and I've been lucky enough to see them play almost everything I could want. I kind of wish they would actually do a greatest hits tour, can you imagine the crowd energy at a greatest hits show? It would be insane.Vedd Hedd said:I have no problem with this tour being its own beast and I dont mind knowing 5-7 songs that are definitely being played and which exact spot. Wont change my enjoyment. I went to 7 shows in 2003, heard Even Flow every time, and usually in the 5th-8th spot in the setlist. There were a handful of "99% sure they'll play this one" songs. Sure they were different in order but whatever.
I always expect and album tour to focus more on the current release, so I expect to hear 5-6 songs from that album, and the next show I expect to hear 5-6 songs again from that album, with like 3-4 repeats. Gigaton was the only tour where they sometimes only played 2-3 from the new album, I think.
When they end the Dark Matter tour, they will likely do another non-album tour, then hopefully a new album tour after that, and I hope to hear 5-6 new ones each night again.
I wouldn't be totally upset if the pulled a Neil Young and someday did a tour with JUST the new stuff, and totally not play any of the classics.
I wouldn't be totally upset if they just did a "greatest hits" tour either.
I dont even care if they just did standard sets, either, like Springsteen does, with only 2-3 different songs while 20 stay the same.
We are at the point in their career where they have sort of earned their way of doing things. I'm certainly not going to fret over a standard 7 songs in the exact same place on the setlist. Part of me even likes knowing.
Yeah some of the 2018 shows were like that, with a lot of rare covers, too. A few b-sides sprinkled in, but lots of hits.efroten2 said:I'm in the same boat, Sacramento was my 36th time seeing them and I've been lucky enough to see them play almost everything I could want. I kind of wish they would actually do a greatest hits tour, can you imagine the crowd energy at a greatest hits show? It would be insane.Vedd Hedd said:I have no problem with this tour being its own beast and I dont mind knowing 5-7 songs that are definitely being played and which exact spot. Wont change my enjoyment. I went to 7 shows in 2003, heard Even Flow every time, and usually in the 5th-8th spot in the setlist. There were a handful of "99% sure they'll play this one" songs. Sure they were different in order but whatever.
I always expect and album tour to focus more on the current release, so I expect to hear 5-6 songs from that album, and the next show I expect to hear 5-6 songs again from that album, with like 3-4 repeats. Gigaton was the only tour where they sometimes only played 2-3 from the new album, I think.
When they end the Dark Matter tour, they will likely do another non-album tour, then hopefully a new album tour after that, and I hope to hear 5-6 new ones each night again.
I wouldn't be totally upset if the pulled a Neil Young and someday did a tour with JUST the new stuff, and totally not play any of the classics.
I wouldn't be totally upset if they just did a "greatest hits" tour either.
I dont even care if they just did standard sets, either, like Springsteen does, with only 2-3 different songs while 20 stay the same.
We are at the point in their career where they have sort of earned their way of doing things. I'm certainly not going to fret over a standard 7 songs in the exact same place on the setlist. Part of me even likes knowing.
I would happily skip that tourefroten2 said:I'm in the same boat, Sacramento was my 36th time seeing them and I've been lucky enough to see them play almost everything I could want. I kind of wish they would actually do a greatest hits tour, can you imagine the crowd energy at a greatest hits show? It would be insane.Vedd Hedd said:I have no problem with this tour being its own beast and I dont mind knowing 5-7 songs that are definitely being played and which exact spot. Wont change my enjoyment. I went to 7 shows in 2003, heard Even Flow every time, and usually in the 5th-8th spot in the setlist. There were a handful of "99% sure they'll play this one" songs. Sure they were different in order but whatever.
I always expect and album tour to focus more on the current release, so I expect to hear 5-6 songs from that album, and the next show I expect to hear 5-6 songs again from that album, with like 3-4 repeats. Gigaton was the only tour where they sometimes only played 2-3 from the new album, I think.
When they end the Dark Matter tour, they will likely do another non-album tour, then hopefully a new album tour after that, and I hope to hear 5-6 new ones each night again.
I wouldn't be totally upset if the pulled a Neil Young and someday did a tour with JUST the new stuff, and totally not play any of the classics.
I wouldn't be totally upset if they just did a "greatest hits" tour either.
I dont even care if they just did standard sets, either, like Springsteen does, with only 2-3 different songs while 20 stay the same.
We are at the point in their career where they have sort of earned their way of doing things. I'm certainly not going to fret over a standard 7 songs in the exact same place on the setlist. Part of me even likes knowing.
The problem with this "traditional show" idea is kinda why this format is happening. They are all 59/60. They just aren't really capable of going to play the 3 hour 30+ song shows anymore. So they got cut down the length and more time in between shows. So you have far less songs they can physically play each night mixed with 12 albums + worth of material. get to 2026/27 and they are all going to be comfortably into their 60's. Even Bruce eventually slowed down SOME. He didn't have to as much because even his rockers aren't the likes of what PJ has and is still writing.Weston1283 said:I think the move is to prioritize the "non album" tours if you are going for variety and rarities. I have a hard time blaming them for the current sets since this is advertised as the "Dark Matter" tour. I expect the current format to stay through 2025 at least, but hopefully they tour in 2026/2027 before the next album and revisit some of the 2000s albums.PJNB said:If these sets are here to stay that is exactly what is going to start happening with the travelling fan.Gern Blansten said:Then by all means stop buying tickets...leaves more for the rest of us
Or, if they want to keep the current format forever, then that's fine too. But I wish they would play one weekend or two night stand per year labeled as "Evening with Pearl Jam" where they play a traditional show. Just once per year, give the crazies a reason to travel for a show they know will be better in their eyes than a regular tour show.
Whatever you say, Kavanaugh.mookeywrench said:Okay Attenborough. Let's put down the thesaurus, come back to the reality that you're going to a rock concert.logan5ive said:The beauty, exhiliration, and power of seeing a Pearl Jam concert has always been, in large part, the unknown. The lights go down and everything to come is a mystery. The band has always operated as such up until this tour. About 1/3 of the set for these shows is, so far, known in advance.
For those of us who have travelled to and seen numerous shows, myself included with 78 since 1993, that mystery, I would argue, is the fundamental reason. It's essential to the band's identity. A characteristic that they have created, acknowledged, cultivated, and benefited from throughout its existence.
I love the band. I love the new album. I'll know I'll enjoy both of the Seattle shows later this month...from I've seen and heard in youtube videos, they look and sound great. But...I'll be secretly hoping I don't know a 1/3 of the set beforehand.
One that is promoting a new album. The concert tour's identity of promoting Dark Matter has been created, acknowledged, blah blah throughout it's existence.
Gotta work it like a 70s radio DJ. "What's that sir? Do The Evolution? Ok this next one is just for you!"kotton_crown said:I do find it odd writing “any song requests?” on the projector when they’re gonna play whatever’s on the set list regardless.
Yeah, let's keep nitpicking everything, it's so relevant. That's what we're all here for.kotton_crown said:I do find it odd writing “any song requests?” on the projector when they’re gonna play whatever’s on the set list regardless.
It's called a setupkotton_crown said:I do find it odd writing “any song requests?” on the projector when they’re gonna play whatever’s on the set list regardless.
https://youtu.be/ozlbjstKHpw?si=zZckujABbrnk4HYq💯aurynsdad said:Finally Faithful is on YT:
Pretty convinced it's a Mike guitar problem. All things considered, if you're not gonna restart the song, they did about as good as they could.
