*** SACRAMENTO - 2024 SETLIST THREAD ***

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  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    vedpunk said:
      This is a setlist thread. It is specifically for people who aren't at the show. The fan view thread is there for people who were. 
    Fair enough.  I just think it's difficult to criticize a setlist without actually being at the concert to actually hear the songs and see how they were performed, especially with all the new visuals and production.  
    But a lot of us have watched the livestreams of all these sows so far. So we have seen and heard the songs.

    Look, I'm not complaining. I like the new album, and don't mind getting a lot of those songs every night. But the predictability does take some of the fun out of these shows. And the excuse that it's because of the new screen and visuals doesn't carry a lot of weight with me. There are multiple examples of bands that use screens and visuals to enhance their shows, and still mix up the sets every night. Hell, they don't even use the same visuals for the same songs when they're played.

    I originally chose the LA shows because they were back-to-back nights, and figured it was my best chance of getting something like Austin last year, where we got only one repeat over two nights. Once these setlists started coming out, I realized there's no chance of that happening. But I'm still holding out hope that they do mix it up a bit more than they have been so far.
  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    My only major gripe with the setlists to this point is that Got to Give has only been played once. It might be my favorite track on the new album, and I thought it had the potential to be a live staple for the remaining years of the band's existence. So far, that doesn't seem to be the case. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    edited May 2024
    I don't mind the new songs at all but I have a problem with the constant repeat of the closing song and songs 5-8.  That's 20% of a setlist. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't mind the new songs at all but I have a problem with the constant repeat of the closing song and songs 5-8.  That's 20% of a setlist. 
    And song 7 is a buzzkill in that spot.  Ruining a great flow with a debbie downer song that's all bummin you out.
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    PJNB said:
    vedpunk said:
      This is a setlist thread. It is specifically for people who aren't at the show. The fan view thread is there for people who were. 
    Fair enough.  I just think it's difficult to criticize a setlist without actually being at the concert to actually hear the songs and see how they were performed, especially with all the new visuals and production.  
    If so then the same should be said about talking positively about it. Which seems a bit crazy right? 
    No it goes both ways and listening to a livestream is not the same as being there in the flesh to get your face melted by Mike 🤘🏼😁
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,226
    dannyschmanny said:
    cutz said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    4.FAITHFULL
    This did not go well. 
    Funny enough, it didn't but it did? Like if you know the song like anyone here does. yes. But if you had never heard it before, whoever was off, the rest adjusted to it and even Ed changed the melody to match, so much though that a newbie to the song would have no real idea it wasn't supposed to be like that. So it wasn't right...but they adjusted to it pretty beautifully in a way. haha
    Yeah, that question(stayement too?) makes sense("funny enough, it didn't but it did?)

    Yes, we noticed they tried a different type of version(slow?) of Faithful. It still sounded a little off to my ears and lacked that punch. Maybe that's what they were trying to do? Will be interesting how the song is played next time they play it.

     I do  like they try to experiment with a different type of version of a older song. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    DTE in the encore every night is a waste. 
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    I've been checking the setlists each night but I've purposely been avoiding any videos posted from the tour.  Looking forward to Seattle!
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    I really got to hear this Faithfull version...

    (Please Please Please use 2 "l's" spelling this song!)
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  • marumaruko
    marumaruko Posts: 410
    edited May 2024
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Then by all means stop buying tickets...leaves more for the rest of us

    The whole point is that majority of this community is seeing many many shows each tour, myself included, because of the unknown set lists. For example, using the band as an excuse to go to Europe or Australia. The incentive now to travel to get uniqueness has dwindled….which eventually leads to the band losing money. 

    Oh wow, the entitlement of the traveling fans. Sure, complaining is an option, but not going is also. No one asks you guys to go out of your way to buy tickets to all the shows. 
    Every show will give you something different, but they really like this record and that's why they are playing the hell out of it. It's great to see. Think the last time this really happened was during the Avocado tour. 
    Overall, I think if it comes to the point that you as a person see yourself as a vital part of a live concert when you are not part of the band, then you are taking it too far. People will go, people will enjoy, you going and not enjoying because of setlist variety is doing yourself more of a disservice than to the band. 
    Damn, I know groupies were a thing a few decades ago, but Pearl Jam seem to have the worst kind of groupies.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    vedpunk said:
    PJNB said:
    vedpunk said:
      This is a setlist thread. It is specifically for people who aren't at the show. The fan view thread is there for people who were. 
    Fair enough.  I just think it's difficult to criticize a setlist without actually being at the concert to actually hear the songs and see how they were performed, especially with all the new visuals and production.  
    If so then the same should be said about talking positively about it. Which seems a bit crazy right? 
    No it goes both ways and listening to a livestream is not the same as being there in the flesh to get your face melted by Mike 🤘🏼😁
    I can agree with that. 

    Still we have always had this place to whine and praise the setlists. Its a lot of fun in the past. This year feels a bit different. 
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,953
    cutz said:
    dannyschmanny said:
    cutz said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    4.FAITHFULL
    This did not go well. 
    Funny enough, it didn't but it did? Like if you know the song like anyone here does. yes. But if you had never heard it before, whoever was off, the rest adjusted to it and even Ed changed the melody to match, so much though that a newbie to the song would have no real idea it wasn't supposed to be like that. So it wasn't right...but they adjusted to it pretty beautifully in a way. haha
    Yeah, that question(stayement too?) makes sense("funny enough, it didn't but it did?)

    Yes, we noticed they tried a different type of version(slow?) of Faithful. It still sounded a little off to my ears and lacked that punch. Maybe that's what they were trying to do? Will be interesting how the song is played next time they play it.

     I do  like they try to experiment with a different type of version of a older song. 
    IMO they don't play the song enough to even warrant doing something different if that was the intent.  I think it was the Mike guitar issue as previously mentioned and they just decided to go with it which was too bad. Basically the only nonregular song of the night...
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    Setlist variation became bigger than the performances and the band. The fact that people get so butthurt about fans dissecting and criticizing the setlist, like it somehow ruins their experience , is hilarious. You had fun? GREAT! We like to discuss the sets. Setlist variation keeps the entire fan base engaged for the whole tour instead of just the people going that night. They can play whatever they want!!! Be grateful!!! Jeez. Lighten up. These sets have been subpar ON PAPER. The same people (me included) will have the time of our lives at the actual show. Until then, don’t let our discussions bring you down. 
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    marumaruko said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Then by all means stop buying tickets...leaves more for the rest of us

    The whole point is that majority of this community is seeing many many shows each tour, myself included, because of the unknown set lists. For example, using the band as an excuse to go to Europe or Australia. The incentive now to travel to get uniqueness has dwindled….which eventually leads to the band losing money. 

    Oh wow, the entitlement of the traveling fans. Sure, complaining is an option, but not going is also. No one asks you guys to go out of your way to buy tickets to all the shows. 
    Every show will give you something different, but they really like this record and that's why they are playing the hell out of it. It's great to see. Think the last time this really happened was during the Avocado tour. 
    Overall, I think if it comes to the point that you as a person see yourself as a vital part of a live concert when you are not part of the band, then you are taking it too far. People will go, people will enjoy, you going and not enjoying because of setlist variety is doing yourself more of a disservice than to the band. 
    Damn, I know groupies were a thing a few decades ago, but Pearl Jam seem to have the worst kind of groupies.
    💯 so true
  • MS4677
    MS4677 Posts: 67
    I certainly would NOT recommend going to a U2 show then with only 2 rotating songs each tour over the past 3 decades.  Maybe Eddie going to the sphere show and one too many convesations with Bono contaminated him? Video sceens, bells and whistles, more predictable setlists!? 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    MS4677 said:
    I certainly would NOT recommend going to a U2 show then with only 2 rotating songs each tour over the past 3 decades.  Maybe Eddie going to the sphere show and one too many convesations with Bono contaminated him? Video sceens, bells and whistles, more predictable setlists!? 
    It’s about expectations. I saw all 8 shows at msg in 2015 knowing u2 doesn’t mix up sets. I had the time of my life. Pearl have set a certain expectation so when there’s a huge change you should expect fans to discuss it respectfully 
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    MS4677 said:
    I certainly would NOT recommend going to a U2 show then with only 2 rotating songs each tour over the past 3 decades.  Maybe Eddie going to the sphere show and one too many convesations with Bono contaminated him? Video sceens, bells and whistles, more predictable setlists!? 
    Just like tool, or green day, or metallica, or guns n roses, or foo fighters it's a one show per tour band.  Pearl Jam is not a one show per tour band, has never been, I would have said never will be but here we are.
  • JBob87
    JBob87 Posts: 485
    Setlist variety is IMO a huge part of what makes PJ the best touring band still going in 2024. 

    Fucking with that at this juncture is a bit of a dangerous game. But the shows last Fall make me think this is mostly a DM thing and not something the band necessarily will maintain moving forward. 

    That said if it even is 1% to do with a video screen that is lame as hell. That is the exact opposite of everything PJ has stood for as a touring band. 
  • RedMosquitoSmile28
    RedMosquitoSmile28 Posts: 386
    MS4677 said:
    I certainly would NOT recommend going to a U2 show then with only 2 rotating songs each tour over the past 3 decades.  Maybe Eddie going to the sphere show and one too many convesations with Bono contaminated him? Video sceens, bells and whistles, more predictable setlists!? 
    Here's the thing, most bands do this. I love seeing a handful of other bands of the same era when they come through my town, but I am not looking at setlists beforehand because I know they will be the same and I still want to be surprised, and I am not going to see them more than once, even if they are playing back-to-back nights. Some of these have been the best shows I have ever seen on an individual basis.

    The allure of Pearl Jam has been the variety. It is why a lot of us travel and see them a lot to see all the different songs they'll play and what little surprises they will throw in there for us. It has been a lot of fun doing it. There are plenty of traveling fans that are entitled, as mentioned above, while spoiled I am not sure I am that. If this is the track they want to take, so be it. Then I have to decide if I want to keep traveling to see it. As I have said I am kind of in wait and see mode if I do a few other shows I have planned this year or if I will spend to do it in the future. Wait to see how much I like Vegas, wait and see if it changes some.

    These are reasonable concerns and choices. It doesn't take away from the individual show, which have gotten tons of positive reviews so far. I have no doubt I will have a blast this weekend. 


  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    edited May 2024
    It’s another case of PJ First World Problems.  How dare they only play 12-15 unique songs from one show to another.  That was not my expectations! Lol

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