wow..I agree with what someone said about getting the media involved...if there were that many people getting screwed, it shouldn't be hard to round up 10-15 of 'em to verify it (could prob be done here). I'd be interested to see what kind of response you got from the local media....this should be brought to other peoples' attention....you never know, could find a Clark Kent-type that wants to expose some police corruption...which could lead to some attention-seeking attorney getting involved for free on the class action, ending with the downfall of the Camden police chief, and a movie of the week
I agree emailing the mayor was a good idea. And also contacting the media since there was so many people.
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I'll be tailgating there next Saturday. And I'll let you guys know if I see anything weird, but like I said earlier I've never had any problems in 11 years there so I don't think anything will happen to me.
Where should we send your bail money, cause you just jinxed yourself.
excerise your rights as an american citizen and take it to trial
I agree. i would have pleaded not guilty. I sure as shit would not have paid the $500.
what the fuck is it like when some crazy shit heavy over the top band comes to town? Does the national guard patrol the parking lot? WTF?Entire parking lots must have been locked up when Metallica, Megadeth, Mororhead, Anthrax, etc comes to town.
Pearl Jam fans = wanted by the camden PD.
WTF?
This is the first I have heard of this story and its fucking shocking.
All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
I dont want to get of into a rant here, but this wouldnt have happened in philly. camden is a shitty city. i think most of us know that. and they have no other way of getting money to "maintain" it so they bust people for crimes they didnt commit. i dont know if thats really true but thats my idea of it and it seems like that is happening. We gotta get it in pj's head that camden sucks. They should play the spectrum again. Thats only my opinion i could be wrong.
camden really is a nightmare, this is exactly what I was afraid of when I went to camden night 1. i drank the $8 beers, inside the venue, went in early to avoid the cops... and I guess I saved money compared to that 500 buck fine.
sry this happened, but you did a good thing by contacting the media and the mayor.
I dont want to get of into a rant here, but this wouldnt have happened in philly. camden is a shitty city. i think most of us know that. and they have no other way of getting money to "maintain" it so they bust people for crimes they didnt commit. i dont know if thats really true but thats my idea of it and it seems like that is happening. We gotta get it in pj's head that camden sucks. They should play the spectrum again. Thats only my opinion i could be wrong.
The Spectrum holds only 18,000 for basketball. Add in about 1,500 or so floor seats and you're still at under 20,000. Camden holds 25,000. It's not a good business move for PJ to turn down the extra revenue and allow more fans a chance to see them by playing a smaller venue. I prefer the Spectrum too, but from an economic sense Camden is a better option for them.
The Spectrum holds only 18,000 for basketball. Add in about 1,500 or so floor seats and you're still at under 20,000. Camden holds 25,000. It's not a good business move for PJ to turn down the extra revenue and allow more fans a chance to see them by playing a smaller venue. I prefer the Spectrum too, but from an economic sense Camden is a better option for them.
lets be totally honest with ourselves... paying for the beer is enough of a rip off now a days. I don't ever want to pay over five dollars for a six pack, based on principle alone!
buy the beer, and then you have to pay for walking around with it? what kind of futury sci-fi world are we living in?
So, let me get this straight...did nobody out of the "1000" people plead "not guilty" to try and fight it later? I would have thought that somebody would have had some sense in them to realize that charging you for something that wasn't originally on the ticket is not appropriate.
I hope somebody did, and it will be fun to see what happens to them.
i remember when i went to the show....the camden cops even look like criminals..lol nice place to run outta gas or get a flat tire and change a spare...lmao
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I didn't see anybody plead not guilty. I know for me, logistically it wasn't worth fighting. I'd already lost 1 day of work. The drive to Camden is 2 hrs in the morning with tolls and parking added on top. To set a trial date, I would have to do it all over again.
Listen, going to court without a lawyer is just stupid. Walking down a public street with a beer in your hand is stupid. Drinking in front of cops in a private lot is borderline stupid. Basically, a whole lot of stupid going on.
It's a toss up - a lawyer gonna cost you at least $500 unless you get a bunch of people for him/her to defend and work out a deal. So, you either pay the lawyer or pay the court. The problem with fighting it is, you're guilty.
Best way to not get in trouble with the law is to not break the law.
-NARC
90 shows and counting...some of my favs: Randall's Island night 2, Milwaukee '95 night 2, Hawaii '06, St Johns '05, PJ20!
This same thing happened to me at Camden for a Dave show. I thought It had gone away. Didn't notice it at Camden this year for PJ. I did not carry a beer around this time and I warned people. NO dif between cops and criminals in Camden.
Fuck the police.
90 shows and counting...some of my favs: Randall's Island night 2, Milwaukee '95 night 2, Hawaii '06, St Johns '05, PJ20!
Camden is a pretty nasty place to go to court. The whole court system is corrupt. As for the money that they collected that day..I'm sure it lined someone's pockets, because they sure as hell don't spend it on the town. Nothing but crack houses around there.
Maybe it was used to clean the filthy ass parking lots.
I will hold the candle until it burns up my arm. I'll keep taking punches until their will grows tired. I will stare the sun down until my eyes go blind. I won't change direction and I won't change my mind.
Wachovia holds 21,000 plus the floor so there are still more tix available to be sold at Camden. There's a reason PJ has played there 10 times in the last 10 years and only once each in the Spectrum and the Wachovia.
something has to be done about this, There is way too much bad/evil shit goin on. BEtween Ticketmaster & scalping these tickets or garbage like this. All happening related to pearl jam too is nto cool. They are against all of this stuff and there are so many bad stories coming out. Supposed to all be having fun at an amazing concert
I was tailgating yesterday at Susquehanna Bank Centre lot for about 4 or 5 hours with a good group of people and there were no problems or incidents to report. Most of us had beer in cups and some were drinking right from the can and the cops just ignored us. They drove through the parking lot a few times and busted a couple of nitrous tanks, but could care less about people drinking beer in the main lots. Even the guys who got busted for the nitrous didn't get arrested or fined. The cops just took their tanks away.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
what the fuck is it like when some crazy shit heavy over the top band comes to town? Does the national guard patrol the parking lot? WTF?Entire parking lots must have been locked up when Metallica, Megadeth, Mororhead, Anthrax, etc comes to town.
Pearl Jam fans = wanted by the camden PD.
WTF?
This is the first I have heard of this story and its fucking shocking.
Lol! I think I'll work on setting up a charity foundation - that way bail donations would be tax free.
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And the band can donate $2 from every ticket to free their fans.....
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sry this happened, but you did a good thing by contacting the media and the mayor.
The Spectrum holds only 18,000 for basketball. Add in about 1,500 or so floor seats and you're still at under 20,000. Camden holds 25,000. It's not a good business move for PJ to turn down the extra revenue and allow more fans a chance to see them by playing a smaller venue. I prefer the Spectrum too, but from an economic sense Camden is a better option for them.
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my question is, why not the wachovia center?
buy the beer, and then you have to pay for walking around with it? what kind of futury sci-fi world are we living in?
the one where people get drunk and do stupid things, like hurt themselves or others.
Thanks for playing Jim.
Skippidy-doo, Jack
I hope somebody did, and it will be fun to see what happens to them.
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-NARC
Fuck the police.
Maybe it was used to clean the filthy ass parking lots.
you know...after seeing the 06 shows and now 08, you may be on to something...
Wachovia holds 21,000 plus the floor so there are still more tix available to be sold at Camden. There's a reason PJ has played there 10 times in the last 10 years and only once each in the Spectrum and the Wachovia.
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