WRECKAGE

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  • ZoSoTim
    ZoSoTim Posts: 1,280
    This song connects with my soul and I’m not even sure why. But I cannot stop listening to it like a mental patient. 
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  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    ZoSoTim said:
    This song connects with my soul and I’m not even sure why. But I cannot stop listening to it like a mental patient. 
    I feel this....SO HARD!

    Well except I know why it connects with me but still, so damn good. 
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited April 2024
    PJammin' said:
    slightofjeff said:
    Right. It's one thing to not be feeling a song. Nobody likes everything. When I come across a song or thread like that, I generally say, "I'm not really enjoying this one but I'm glad others are." Major Comic Book Guy energy to a lot of the criticism on this thread. It's annoying. Just let people be excited.


    Hardly anyone here can write even one good song but they are quick to say a certain PJ song sucks even though these guys are super talented and legit hall of fame musicians. It’s comical. 
    This is true with everything. 
    People say an NFL quarterback sucks, even though they've never played. Or MLB officials are terrible, even though they'd miss even more calls.
    They can be bad at what they do for the standards we have. I don't have to be an umpire to know Angel Hernandez makes horrible calls, and know I would probably be even worse.
    Pearl Jam is a great band, they're my favorite band. And as such, I have high standards for them. I can definitely think a song sucks despite the fact I can't write one better. If I made a list of my favorite 100 songs of all time, PJ would probably be on there 20 times. But they aren't going to hit a home run every time. There's definitely songs I'd be happy never hearing again.
    That being said, I do like Wreckage. Can't stand Buckle Up, I think this conversation started about Buckle Up. 
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  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 893
    i could absolutely outperform Angel Hernandez. That is not the same as saying I’d make a good ump, but it's still true.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited April 2024
    kmcmanus said:
    i could absolutely outperform Angel Hernandez. That is not the same as saying I’d make a good ump, but it's still true.
    I don't know. Unless you have some experience or training, I can't assume I'd do better. You're considered a horrible umpire if you miss a few calls on a ball traveling 95 mph with some movement and you're off by an inch on your judgement of where it was in relation to a plate on the ground you're not even looking at. Someone who is off by 1 inch 10% of the time will be considered one of the worst out there and known by anyone who even remotely follows the sport. Seems like a high standard. 
  • southernmanfan
    southernmanfan Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 1,029
    I love the outtro…
    rustedsigns
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    kmcmanus said:
    i could absolutely outperform Angel Hernandez. That is not the same as saying I’d make a good ump, but it's still true.
    I think Angel was just paying tribute to the memory of Eric Gregg with his performance last weekend. Gregg giving Livan Hernandez 18 inches off the corner in the 1997 N.L.C.S. is still the gold standard of questionable strike-calling.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • bicyclejoe
    bicyclejoe USA Posts: 1,203
    So Wreckage is about Trump, according to Eddie … https://variety.com/2024/music/global/pearl-jam-eddie-vedder-donald-trump-wreckage-dark-matter-1235977926/
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  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 893
    bicyclejoe said:
    So Wreckage is about Trump, according to Eddie … https://variety.com/2024/music/global/pearl-jam-eddie-vedder-donald-trump-wreckage-dark-matter-1235977926/
    No, when Stern asked about it Ed said no. I think the writer of an interview got his wires crossed on song titles and other outlets picked up on it. Ed said it’s about a relationship.
    Now Dark Matter & React, Respond are probably a different story. They are both certainly about abuse of power if not specifically Trump per se.

  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    kmcmanus said:
    bicyclejoe said:
    So Wreckage is about Trump, according to Eddie … https://variety.com/2024/music/global/pearl-jam-eddie-vedder-donald-trump-wreckage-dark-matter-1235977926/
    No, when Stern asked about it Ed said no. I think the writer of an interview got his wires crossed on song titles and other outlets picked up on it. Ed said it’s about a relationship.
    Now Dark Matter & React, Respond are probably a different story. They are both certainly about abuse of power if not specifically Trump per se.

    I agree. "React, Respond" is the one that, once I had the lyrics in front of me, made me think it could be about Trump. And "Dark Matter" and "Running" also seem plausibly like responses to the milieu in America since he came down the escalator in June 2015.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • KM73780
    KM73780 Posts: 1,172
    This song is like “Elderly Woman Behind the Counter In A Small Town” meets “Corduroy”
  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    I cannot wait to hear this live. 
    Two weeks in and it is still the stand out for me. 
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Song is actually growing on me. Kind of overstays its welcome at the end imo and is probably at the bottom 3 for me on the album. That said its way better than the songs that were at the bottom for me on their previous 3 albums. And it is not even close really. 
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    edited May 2024
    . PJNB said:
    Song is actually growing on me. Kind of overstays its welcome at the end imo and is probably at the bottom 3 for me on the album. That said it’s way better than the songs that were at the bottom for me on their previous 3 albums. And it is not even close really. 
    I love this song, but I totally agree with this as a whole for this album. The bottom three songs on DM are much better than many songs on the previous three. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    yosi said:
    . PJNB said:
    Song is actually growing on me. Kind of overstays its welcome at the end imo and is probably at the bottom 3 for me on the album. That said it’s way better than the songs that were at the bottom for me on their previous 3 albums. And it is not even close really. 
    I love this song, but I totally agree with this as a whole for this album. The bottom three songs on DM are much better than many songs on the previous three. 
    I would say the bottom three on DM are better than a lot of the mid tier songs on Backspacer and LB. It's just a really solid album from start to finish. 
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  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    The Juggler said:
    yosi said:
    . PJNB said:
    Song is actually growing on me. Kind of overstays its welcome at the end imo and is probably at the bottom 3 for me on the album. That said it’s way better than the songs that were at the bottom for me on their previous 3 albums. And it is not even close really. 
    I love this song, but I totally agree with this as a whole for this album. The bottom three songs on DM are much better than many songs on the previous three. 
    I would say the bottom three on DM are better than a lot of the mid tier songs on Backspacer and LB. It's just a really solid album from start to finish. 
    Agreed! IMO Wreckage is a kissing cousin to "The Long Way" from Earthling. Both great Tom Petty tributes. 
  • deb1211
    deb1211 Posts: 2,040
    Tour ready 
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    The Juggler said:
    yosi said:
    . PJNB said:
    Song is actually growing on me. Kind of overstays its welcome at the end imo and is probably at the bottom 3 for me on the album. That said it’s way better than the songs that were at the bottom for me on their previous 3 albums. And it is not even close really. 
    I love this song, but I totally agree with this as a whole for this album. The bottom three songs on DM are much better than many songs on the previous three. 
    I would say the bottom three on DM are better than a lot of the mid tier songs on Backspacer and LB. It's just a really solid album from start to finish. 
    Throw in Gigaton as well. 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    This song plays much louder than the "loud" songs React/Respond & Dark Matter before & after on my earbuds. Is that compression?
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,825
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    This song plays much louder than the "loud" songs React/Respond & Dark Matter before & after on my earbuds. Is that compression?
    I have same issues, listen from Apple Music. Doesnt get loud, but when i go to anything else its LOUD

    Sounds great in car at home, but on the run its tiny

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