Running is out !

mcgruff10 said:

igotid88 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Ha. 
People can have opinions.  We don't all have to agree.

Obviously we all love Pearl Jam.
That doesn't mean I can't think Gigaton wasn't a great record and is by far their bottom effort.

Anyway, look forward to hearing the next track.

I think it's more about when they're making out to be the worst song ever. And the nitpicking. "It's too overproduced. Under produced. Too many words. Not enough words. 'La, la, la' is lazy writing. Chorus should be here not there. I want it to sound like this. It sounds too much like this. Every album sounds the same. Every album is too different. "

Has anyone said if s the worst song ever? (And we all know that record belongs to you are)
the rest of what you say is constructive criticism.   It’s ok to react to a song and say what you like or don’t like in a respectful way.  Some of you act like you wrote the song.  

BF25394 said:

mcgruff10 said:

igotid88 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Ha. 
People can have opinions.  We don't all have to agree.

Obviously we all love Pearl Jam.
That doesn't mean I can't think Gigaton wasn't a great record and is by far their bottom effort.

Anyway, look forward to hearing the next track.

I think it's more about when they're making out to be the worst song ever. And the nitpicking. "It's too overproduced. Under produced. Too many words. Not enough words. 'La, la, la' is lazy writing. Chorus should be here not there. I want it to sound like this. It sounds too much like this. Every album sounds the same. Every album is too different. "

Has anyone said if s the worst song ever? (And we all know that record belongs to you are)
the rest of what you say is constructive criticism.   It’s ok to react to a song and say what you like or don’t like in a respectful way.  Some of you act like you wrote the song.  

Someone yesterday declared that the song sucks, that it will be their bathroom song, and that this opinion was set in stone. This was less than twelve hours after the song was released.

Spunkie said:

BF25394 said:

mcgruff10 said:

igotid88 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Ha. 
People can have opinions.  We don't all have to agree.

Obviously we all love Pearl Jam.
That doesn't mean I can't think Gigaton wasn't a great record and is by far their bottom effort.

Anyway, look forward to hearing the next track.

I think it's more about when they're making out to be the worst song ever. And the nitpicking. "It's too overproduced. Under produced. Too many words. Not enough words. 'La, la, la' is lazy writing. Chorus should be here not there. I want it to sound like this. It sounds too much like this. Every album sounds the same. Every album is too different. "

Has anyone said if s the worst song ever? (And we all know that record belongs to you are)
the rest of what you say is constructive criticism.   It’s ok to react to a song and say what you like or don’t like in a respectful way.  Some of you act like you wrote the song.  

Someone yesterday declared that the song sucks, that it will be their bathroom song, and that this opinion was set in stone. This was less than twelve hours after the song was released.

RatherStaved. It was him. He did it. 
*made me wonder how he could pee so fast*

BF25394 said:

Spunkie said:

BF25394 said:

mcgruff10 said:

igotid88 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Ha. 
People can have opinions.  We don't all have to agree.

Obviously we all love Pearl Jam.
That doesn't mean I can't think Gigaton wasn't a great record and is by far their bottom effort.

Anyway, look forward to hearing the next track.

I think it's more about when they're making out to be the worst song ever. And the nitpicking. "It's too overproduced. Under produced. Too many words. Not enough words. 'La, la, la' is lazy writing. Chorus should be here not there. I want it to sound like this. It sounds too much like this. Every album sounds the same. Every album is too different. "

Has anyone said if s the worst song ever? (And we all know that record belongs to you are)
the rest of what you say is constructive criticism.   It’s ok to react to a song and say what you like or don’t like in a respectful way.  Some of you act like you wrote the song.  

Someone yesterday declared that the song sucks, that it will be their bathroom song, and that this opinion was set in stone. This was less than twelve hours after the song was released.

RatherStaved. It was him. He did it. 
*made me wonder how he could pee so fast*

I figured it would involve "running" to the bathroom...😀

lastexit78 said:

Wobbie said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

lastexit78 said:

It’s okay to love this band, have tickets to multiple shows and still be excited for the album while admitting this song is awful. Dark Matter is a solid track but this song is a mess. Not sure what possessed them to release this as a 2nd single. The production of both tracks has me concerned  more than anything, hoping Watt didn’t butcher the whole album. Anyway just my 2 cents, hopefully others are enjoying it. 

Yeah a Grammy award winning producer who has worked with huge artists and is in high demand would butcher the whole record. Wtf? You people need to relax. Never seen a fan base ruin and dissect every little thing a band does to take the joy out it. People bitching about shipping rates, record cost, song production, drums, vocals, seat selection, city selection, tix prices, t shirt size, poster design etc.  this post is not directed to you last exit just an overall rant to the negativity on here.  Ok, I’m done. Carry on with the bitching 

here’s the thing….I was a fan from the beginning. I joined this forum 10 years in (I think). every single album through avocado was brilliant. that was halfway through the band’s existence. since then (the second half), they’ve released 3 average at best albums. dark matter could well be the fourth. the band spoiled the shit out of me for 16 years. since then, their “work” has gone way downhill while they seem to want to squeeze every last dime out of their fans. after BS and LB, I thought they should probably hang it up. PJ will be remembered as a legendary band and will always have a place in my heart (as long as I don’t focus on their recent money grubbing) but I think they have run their course. they’re still talented musicians but the well of creativity seems to have run dry.

I think I’m only still around so I can talk shit about sports in the AET.

I’m sort of where you are although I don’t think they are in it for the money. I just think the well ran dry sometime around Avocado. Although Ed managed Into The Wild during that stretch which is probably better than any PJ release since Riot Act. I’m just thankful and appreciative they are still around and touring, I don’t care to get into these long debates about new material or even tickets at this point. Going to 4 shows and will enjoy each immensely. I’ll buy the album, find a handful of songs I connect with and move on with my life. People defend every song here like it’s their own child. They aren’t following up Yield or something here, the bar isn’t what it used to be.