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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    mrussel1 said:
    I'd be devastated. my dad had a heart attack in spring of 2022. it was literally right after a bout of covid. vaxxed? yep. impossible to know which. But highly, HIGHLY likely it was covid or just as likely, just the fact that he's 76 and heart issues run in our family. 

    we couldn't go see him as he was still testing positive even though his symptoms had subsided way earlier. he had many complications as a result of this heart attack. he lived and he's fine, but it fucking sucked. he was in there alone for over 2 weeks. my mother has mobility issues and he couldn't be there to help her. 

    why would I say any of that to the families? do I say "told ya so" to the families of anti vaxxers who are now dead and begged for the vaccine when it was too late? of course not. I'm not a fucking asshole. 

    there have been instances where seatbelts have TAKEN lives. (being trapped in a burning car, for instance-my wife knew a couple who burned alive after a car accident; the seatbelt latches melted and they couldn't get out, leaving two children orphaned). should we still say "FUCK SEATBELTS"? OR WE WERE LIED TO? THEY ALL TOLD US SEAT BELTS SAVED LIVES!!! THESE SEAT BELTS CAUSED THEIR DEATHS! FUCK ALL SEATBELTS!!! 

    no, cause that would be incredibly stupid and irresponsible. but you'd be calling for the the public hanging of the guy who invented seat belts. 

    would I ever say "man, too bad your mom was wearing her seat belt, eh?". no, again, cuz I'm not a fucking asshole. 
    That's a good analogy.
    Really really good..are you serious too??
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    Did I forget?  No.  In fact, this is the quote from the CDC website, last updated in Sept 2020 which is BEFORE the COVID vaccine was released.  

    Before vaccines are approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), scientists test them extensively to ensure they are effective and safe. Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    So go live in a bubble where your risk is zero. You also won't be able to access resources in your hermetically sealed cage and will die. Will that then be the bubble's fault? 
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    And you’re equally sympathetic to people who had family members die because they refused the vaccine after being told
    lies about it and that they’ll do just fine popping Ivermectin and vitamin D. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    politicians may have said that. do you listen to politicians for your health advice?
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    23scidoo said:
    I'd be devastated. my dad had a heart attack in spring of 2022. it was literally right after a bout of covid. vaxxed? yep. impossible to know which. But highly, HIGHLY likely it was covid or just as likely, just the fact that he's 76 and heart issues run in our family. 

    we couldn't go see him as he was still testing positive even though his symptoms had subsided way earlier. he had many complications as a result of this heart attack. he lived and he's fine, but it fucking sucked. he was in there alone for over 2 weeks. my mother has mobility issues and he couldn't be there to help her. 

    why would I say any of that to the families? do I say "told ya so" to the families of anti vaxxers who are now dead and begged for the vaccine when it was too late? of course not. I'm not a fucking asshole. 

    there have been instances where seatbelts have TAKEN lives. (being trapped in a burning car, for instance-my wife knew a couple who burned alive after a car accident; the seatbelt latches melted and they couldn't get out, leaving two children orphaned). should we still say "FUCK SEATBELTS"? OR WE WERE LIED TO? THEY ALL TOLD US SEAT BELTS SAVED LIVES!!! THESE SEAT BELTS CAUSED THEIR DEATHS! FUCK ALL SEATBELTS!!! 

    no, cause that would be incredibly stupid and irresponsible. but you'd be calling for the the public hanging of the guy who invented seat belts. 

    would I ever say "man, too bad your mom was wearing her seat belt, eh?". no, again, cuz I'm not a fucking asshole. 
    It's the second time you give the seat belt example.. really??..

    and what was your response to the first one? haha
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall





  • I'm still waiting for 103 more names of footballers who Died Suddenly - by my count we've only got 5 out of 108. 
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    And you’re equally sympathetic to people who had family members die because they refused the vaccine after being told
    lies about it and that they’ll do just fine popping Ivermectin and vitamin D. 
    To refuse the vaccine was a choice..to get it, it wasn't..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929

    I'm still waiting for 103 more names of footballers who Died Suddenly™ - by my count we've only got 5 out of 108. 
    Google..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    23scidoo said:
    I'd be devastated. my dad had a heart attack in spring of 2022. it was literally right after a bout of covid. vaxxed? yep. impossible to know which. But highly, HIGHLY likely it was covid or just as likely, just the fact that he's 76 and heart issues run in our family. 

    we couldn't go see him as he was still testing positive even though his symptoms had subsided way earlier. he had many complications as a result of this heart attack. he lived and he's fine, but it fucking sucked. he was in there alone for over 2 weeks. my mother has mobility issues and he couldn't be there to help her. 

    why would I say any of that to the families? do I say "told ya so" to the families of anti vaxxers who are now dead and begged for the vaccine when it was too late? of course not. I'm not a fucking asshole. 

    there have been instances where seatbelts have TAKEN lives. (being trapped in a burning car, for instance-my wife knew a couple who burned alive after a car accident; the seatbelt latches melted and they couldn't get out, leaving two children orphaned). should we still say "FUCK SEATBELTS"? OR WE WERE LIED TO? THEY ALL TOLD US SEAT BELTS SAVED LIVES!!! THESE SEAT BELTS CAUSED THEIR DEATHS! FUCK ALL SEATBELTS!!! 

    no, cause that would be incredibly stupid and irresponsible. but you'd be calling for the the public hanging of the guy who invented seat belts. 

    would I ever say "man, too bad your mom was wearing her seat belt, eh?". no, again, cuz I'm not a fucking asshole. 
    It's the second time you give the seat belt example.. really??..

    and what was your response to the first one? haha
    Same as yours..hahahaha..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    But how much fun I have when you comment on one of my ten posts, you can't imagine..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    politicians may have said that. do you listen to politicians for your health advice?
    Short memory here..no surprises..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    And you’re equally sympathetic to people who had family members die because they refused the vaccine after being told
    lies about it and that they’ll do just fine popping Ivermectin and vitamin D. 
    https://www.westernstandard.news/news/ontario-mother-paralyzed-after-covid-booster-refuses-two-offers-of-maid/52478
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo said:

    I'm still waiting for 103 more names of footballers who Died Suddenly™ - by my count we've only got 5 out of 108. 
    Google..
    Have you googled it?  :D  


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    politicians may have said that. do you listen to politicians for your health advice?
    Short memory here..no surprises..
    We're not in Greece.  We don't know what your crazy-ass politicians say, but that's not our problem.  Over here, thinking people know to listen to the experts, the CDC.  And I showed you how their guidance is exactly COUNTER to what you said.  They said no vaccine is 100% safe or effective. So all of us that are arguing with you have basic common sense.  We know when are you talking about 300MM Americans, you don't use words like "100%", "never", "always".  Normal people know those statements are irresponsible.  
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    23scidoo said:

    I'm still waiting for 103 more names of footballers who Died Suddenly™ - by my count we've only got 5 out of 108. 
    Google..
    Have you googled it?  :D  


    Yes..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    politicians may have said that. do you listen to politicians for your health advice?
    Short memory here..no surprises..
    We're not in Greece.  We don't know what your crazy-ass politicians say, but that's not our problem.  Over here, thinking people know to listen to the experts, the CDC.  And I showed you how their guidance is exactly COUNTER to what you said.  They said no vaccine is 100% safe or effective. So all of us that are arguing with you have basic common sense.  We know when are you talking about 300MM Americans, you don't use words like "100%", "never", "always".  Normal people know those statements are irresponsible.  
    the experts imposed unscientific measures on you, did you forget that too??..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 


    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..
    Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

    Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated ModernaPfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.
    let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 
    You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 
    100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?
    politicians may have said that. do you listen to politicians for your health advice?
    Short memory here..no surprises..
    We're not in Greece.  We don't know what your crazy-ass politicians say, but that's not our problem.  Over here, thinking people know to listen to the experts, the CDC.  And I showed you how their guidance is exactly COUNTER to what you said.  They said no vaccine is 100% safe or effective. So all of us that are arguing with you have basic common sense.  We know when are you talking about 300MM Americans, you don't use words like "100%", "never", "always".  Normal people know those statements are irresponsible.  
    the experts imposed unscientific measures on you, did you forget that too??..
    Wearing masks and trying to stay 6 feet away really didn't bother me a bit.  I view it as part of the social contract.  When I visit a sick relative in the hospital, often I have had to wear a mask.  And I would prefer people stay 6 feet away (or further) anyway.  In other words, no I didn't forget nor did it particularly bother me. 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    BTW, not sure why 23scidoo isn't the first to post this, but a study of 99 million vaccinated individuals which took place over the past 3 years has been released, and it does show statistically significant increases for several adverse events following immunization (AEFI). Go figure, it almost seems like scientists have been doing their due diligence to evaluate claims of adverse events following immunization with proper scientific process, and there's no global suppression effort.

    On the other hand, seems like a waste of time to me - they could've been sharing anecdotes of their neighbour who both got sick and got vaccinated to sell an unproven narrative.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270
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