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  • wnh1977
    wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 650
    Rubysdad said:
    Hey Fans,

    The purpose of this thread is for fans to extend their voice by posting their questions comments and concerns related to the band, the fan club, and other such PJ related topics.

    10c

    • Concert tickets now going for close to $200/each
    • Highly questionable concert drawing results
    • No more annual Fan Club vinyl single
    • No more physical Fan Club newsletter ("Deep")
    • No more free Fan Club t-shirt with membership
    • Outrageous shipping fees for merch
    I guess my concern would be that we're dishing out a lot more and getting a lot less.
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  • Seems like I'm part of the non-winners this time around...I'm still not sure- and would love to understand- how some folks get 5-6-7 of their requests honored...and I put in for 1 show and got nothing. And I'm referencing specific situations like folks getting 5 shows AND the one I was looking for. How is there no system in place for equal disbursement at some level? How is someone getting Baltimore, Seattle, Chicago and Boston while someone else is locked out of their only request which is Boston? 
    Doesnt fucking matter anyway
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    Seems like I'm part of the non-winners this time around...I'm still not sure- and would love to understand- how some folks get 5-6-7 of their requests honored...and I put in for 1 show and got nothing. And I'm referencing specific situations like folks getting 5 shows AND the one I was looking for. How is there no system in place for equal disbursement at some level? How is someone getting Baltimore, Seattle, Chicago and Boston while someone else is locked out of their only request which is Boston? 

    You answered your own question. There is no system to prevent someone from getting tickets to EVERY show, and certainly no system to make sure as many different accounts get tickets as possible. It's a random free-for-all at best.
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  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,379
    wnh1977 said:
    Rubysdad said:
    Hey Fans,

    The purpose of this thread is for fans to extend their voice by posting their questions comments and concerns related to the band, the fan club, and other such PJ related topics.

    10c

    • Concert tickets now going for close to $200/each
    • Highly questionable concert drawing results
    • No more annual Fan Club vinyl single
    • No more physical Fan Club newsletter ("Deep")
    • No more free Fan Club t-shirt with membership
    • Outrageous shipping fees for merch
    I guess my concern would be that we're dishing out a lot more and getting a lot less.
    Agree with all of this. 
  • jazizi83
    jazizi83 USA Posts: 19
    wnh1977 said:
    Rubysdad said:
    Hey Fans,

    The purpose of this thread is for fans to extend their voice by posting their questions comments and concerns related to the band, the fan club, and other such PJ related topics.

    10c

    • Concert tickets now going for close to $200/each
    • Highly questionable concert drawing results
    • No more annual Fan Club vinyl single
    • No more physical Fan Club newsletter ("Deep")
    • No more free Fan Club t-shirt with membership
    • Outrageous shipping fees for merch
    I guess my concern would be that we're dishing out a lot more and getting a lot less.

    THIS. The most concerning for me is access to concert tickets. The prices of tickets alone make these shows more exclusive. Not having control over which concert(s) I would attend, if any at all, plus 10c/ticketmaster's inability or unwillingness to ensure a more balanced ticket dispersal method, though, makes the experience much worse. I can only hope that 10c members who lost out during the pre-sale have some advantage during the registration sale.
  • I agree there is literally no benefit to pay membership anymore in the toughest economic times for most people. Sad to see this place nose dived so badly


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Kevinman
    Kevinman Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 1,921
    I agree there is literally no benefit to pay membership anymore in the toughest economic times for most people. Sad to see this place nose dived so badly
    Ditto

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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    I agree there is literally no benefit to pay membership anymore in the toughest economic times for most people. Sad to see this place nose dived so badly
    A lot of hyperbole here. "Literally no benefit": you get the opportunity to access thousands of tickets before anyone else in the general public. That is a real benefit, even if it doesn't guarantee you tickets-- which it never did. "Toughest economic times for most people": the financial crisis of 2008 would like a word. We lost 700,000 jobs a month from October 2008 to April 2009. Homes were getting foreclosed on left and right. Meanwhile, a Quinnipiac poll of a few months ago found that 60 percent of Americans said their financial condition is either good or excellent.
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  • BF25394 said:
    I agree there is literally no benefit to pay membership anymore in the toughest economic times for most people. Sad to see this place nose dived so badly
    A lot of hyperbole here. "Literally no benefit": you get the opportunity to access thousands of tickets before anyone else in the general public. That is a real benefit, even if it doesn't guarantee you tickets-- which it never did. "Toughest economic times for most people": the financial crisis of 2008 would like a word. We lost 700,000 jobs a month from October 2008 to April 2009. Homes were getting foreclosed on left and right. Meanwhile, a Quinnipiac poll of a few months ago found that 60 percent of Americans said their financial condition is either good or excellent.
    Americans.....Europe would like a word . I don't know what a hyperbole is I'm a dumbass old English man 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • I'm able to afford tickets so I don't have a dog in the fight anymore. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • *not.
    Sorry still trying to work this abortion of a site.


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    *not.
    Sorry still trying to work this abortion of a site.
    If you're talking about the mobile problems, have you tried logging out and then logging back in? That has been working for me, but I have to do it each time I go on.

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  • PJ_Soul said:
    *not.
    Sorry still trying to work this abortion of a site.
    If you're talking about the mobile problems, have you tried logging out and then logging back in? That has been working for me, but I have to do it each time I go on.

    Thank you . I tried and it's still the same. Oh well probably beat I sit out for a while anyway.i think I'm becoming too much.


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • efroten2
    efroten2 Chicago Posts: 83
    cbeiting said:
    Remember when the 10C would limit you to two tickets for an entire show? It was fantastic. There was a much better chance of going to a show you wanted to go to, and there was a good chance if you had a low number you'd get legit bad ass seats. 

    The last time I felt like I had a fighting chance was 2003 in Lexington. Front row center. Fanclub #123,xxx 

    Ever since the 10C allowed people to put in for every show, it's been an absolutely nightmare shitshow. 

    Hey 10C, go back to two tickets. Either 1 ticket for 2 shows, or 2 tickets to 1 show. And maybe consider not charging $180/ticket for your most dedicated fans? Just a few ideas that you will never consider... 

    I'm pretty sure 10C let you submit for as many shows as you wanted in 2003. I did 7 shows that year and I think 4-5 of those were 10c tickets, the others I decided to go to later and got through TM.

    I'd also like to see some staggered prices based on seat location, paying close to $200 for upper deck is pretty shitty. As others have said, charge a bit more for better seats, a little less for worse seats.

    It does seem odd how many people got multiple GA shows (myself included). As many have already stated - My biggest issue is that since the 2023 shows, we're getting worse 10C seats than ever before because they are selling those seats to non-10C members or as platinum seats. It will be very interesting to see seating assignments for this 2024 tour.

    Another factor - they seem to be playing fewer shows now which creates more demand per show.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    BF25394 said:
    I agree there is literally no benefit to pay membership anymore in the toughest economic times for most people. Sad to see this place nose dived so badly
    A lot of hyperbole here. "Literally no benefit": you get the opportunity to access thousands of tickets before anyone else in the general public. That is a real benefit, even if it doesn't guarantee you tickets-- which it never did. "Toughest economic times for most people": the financial crisis of 2008 would like a word. We lost 700,000 jobs a month from October 2008 to April 2009. Homes were getting foreclosed on left and right. Meanwhile, a Quinnipiac poll of a few months ago found that 60 percent of Americans said their financial condition is either good or excellent.
    Americans.....Europe would like a word . I don't know what a hyperbole is I'm a dumbass old English man 
    Fair enough. I may be a little sensitive to some of the political dynamics over here. Our economy has recovered much better than Europe's  and the U.K.'s since the pandemic, so I recognize that the situation is not as good over there.
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  • tylermoore
    tylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 1,113
    Yeah this ticket system is a joke. Not worth the 10c membership anymore. If this is how it is from now on, some people get several shows, a lot of people get absolutely nothing. What a joke. For a group of fans that care so much, the 10c seems to care so little these days about what actually happens with their decisions. From messed up online orders, to now the tickets. It’s getting out of hand. 
  • Fan club member for over 20years.. shut out for both Philly shows.. what a joke
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  • LostDog_72
    LostDog_72 London Posts: 74
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I agree there is literally no benefit to pay membership anymore in the toughest economic times for most people. Sad to see this place nose dived so badly
    A lot of hyperbole here. "Literally no benefit": you get the opportunity to access thousands of tickets before anyone else in the general public. That is a real benefit, even if it doesn't guarantee you tickets-- which it never did. "Toughest economic times for most people": the financial crisis of 2008 would like a word. We lost 700,000 jobs a month from October 2008 to April 2009. Homes were getting foreclosed on left and right. Meanwhile, a Quinnipiac poll of a few months ago found that 60 percent of Americans said their financial condition is either good or excellent.
    Americans.....Europe would like a word . I don't know what a hyperbole is I'm a dumbass old English man 
    Fair enough. I may be a little sensitive to some of the political dynamics over here. Our economy has recovered much better than Europe's  and the U.K.'s since the pandemic, so I recognize that the situation is not as good over there.
    It isn't even so much about the economic situation! PJ tour the US almost every year - they have come to Europe something like 4 times in the last 17 years. So the benefit of paying $$$ to "access thousands of tickets before anyone else in the general public. is somewhat reduced for Europeans
  • I'll pay $35 a year for let's say a 20-50% chance of getting tickets to shows without having to fight the bots in the general sale.  If you're lucky enough to snag general sale or F2F tix - great.  But if not, you are going to pay far more than $35 extra on the secondary market.
    As I've said before - I was on a 0-11 lottery streak leading up to last year and I still think the membership is worth it.  There are lots of things I waste $35 on throughout the year but the 10C membership isn't one of them IMO

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  • Force Of Nature
    Force Of Nature York, England Posts: 1,133
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    I agree there is literally no benefit to pay membership anymore in the toughest economic times for most people. Sad to see this place nose dived so badly
    A lot of hyperbole here. "Literally no benefit": you get the opportunity to access thousands of tickets before anyone else in the general public. That is a real benefit, even if it doesn't guarantee you tickets-- which it never did. "Toughest economic times for most people": the financial crisis of 2008 would like a word. We lost 700,000 jobs a month from October 2008 to April 2009. Homes were getting foreclosed on left and right. Meanwhile, a Quinnipiac poll of a few months ago found that 60 percent of Americans said their financial condition is either good or excellent.
    Americans.....Europe would like a word . I don't know what a hyperbole is I'm a dumbass old English man 
    Fair enough. I may be a little sensitive to some of the political dynamics over here. Our economy has recovered much better than Europe's  and the U.K.'s since the pandemic, so I recognize that the situation is not as good over there.
    It isn't even so much about the economic situation! PJ tour the US almost every year - they have come to Europe something like 4 times in the last 17 years. So the benefit of paying $$$ to "access thousands of tickets before anyone else in the general public. is somewhat reduced for Europeans
    They've been to Europe more than 4 times in 17 year.
    In that time I've seen them in the UK  2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2022