Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

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  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    edited February 2024
    DM302403 said:
    SHZA said:
    BF25394 said:
    SHZA said:
    BF25394 said:
    pjl44 said:
    BF25394 said:
    know1 said:
    BF25394 said:
    washed in black said:
    mpedone said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    GA/P1 - feels like its own GA only option.  The GA pit is a different color.
    P1 is the blue
    P2 was the orange

    It wasn't particularly clear but I feel like the P stands for price. Since seated/GA are the same price they get tagged with the P1

    Except that the option said "GA or P1 Reserved - Standing or Seating", so it wasn't just price.
    Correct

    It is possible that the Reserved P1 in option one refers to the seats on the floor, while the Reserved P1 in option two refers to the sections in the lower bowl of the arena (with Reserved P2 being the sections in the upper bowl of the arena).

    I speculated earlier that there were no doubt people who did not choose all three options and that this would result in better chances of those people being shut out, and this thread is proving that assertion right. People may have had different reasons for not checking all three boxes. Some preferred getting no ticket to getting a ticket in P2. Some did not read the instructions. Some did not understand the instructions. Some did not believe the instructions. Whatever the reason, the result is that some people who would have gotten tickets if they had selected all three options ended up not getting tickets.
    Reasonable response. I agree that the instructions were confusing or perhaps illogical, but I followed them anyway. My 2 shows had only the first 2 options. I chose both options and got Reserved for both shows. 
    Just to be clear, because you're using the word "agree"-- I don't think the instructions were confusing or illogical. I thought they were clear, and so did both of the other club members I talked to before submitting my requests.
    Do these two people have the same chance of getting drawn for P1 seats? Yes/no and why?

    Person A: Checked GA/P1 and did not draw GA
    Person B: Checked GA/P1 & P1 and did not draw GA
    No, they don't have the same odds. Person A was only in one drawing. Person B was in two drawings. The first drawing filled out GA and the floor seats. The second drawing filled out the lower bowl seats.
    Pure speculation. Nothing in the sign up page indicated any distinction between the two "P1 Reserved" options. 
    The fact that there were two options suggested that they were for different things.
    They were different. One included the possibility of getting GA instead of P1, the other didn't. That doesn't suggest that "P1 Reserved" means two different things. They could have said P1 Reserved Floor if that was the case.    
    I think the only difference would be GA/Reserved P1 meant you would get either GA or a seat on the floor/field depending on the venue and the Reserved P1 option was for only seats in the bowl areas of the venue.
    Again, the supposed floor/field vs bowl distinction is complete speculation and not based on anything on the sign up page itself. Take a look at the KIA Forum seating chart above. There are three colors: GA is purple, P1 is blue, and P2 is orange. If the "P1 Reserved" part of "GA-P1 Reserved" was somehow different from the "P1 Reserved" standalone option, they would have used a fourth color for the floor seats so that there was an obvious distinction between the P1 floor/field and the P1 lower bowl. That they did not means that there is no difference. 
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  • auntdonut
    auntdonut Posts: 113
    DM302403 said:
    SHZA said:
    BF25394 said:
    SHZA said:
    BF25394 said:
    pjl44 said:
    BF25394 said:
    know1 said:
    BF25394 said:
    washed in black said:
    mpedone said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    GA/P1 - feels like its own GA only option.  The GA pit is a different color.
    P1 is the blue
    P2 was the orange

    It wasn't particularly clear but I feel like the P stands for price. Since seated/GA are the same price they get tagged with the P1

    Except that the option said "GA or P1 Reserved - Standing or Seating", so it wasn't just price.
    Correct

    It is possible that the Reserved P1 in option one refers to the seats on the floor, while the Reserved P1 in option two refers to the sections in the lower bowl of the arena (with Reserved P2 being the sections in the upper bowl of the arena).

    I speculated earlier that there were no doubt people who did not choose all three options and that this would result in better chances of those people being shut out, and this thread is proving that assertion right. People may have had different reasons for not checking all three boxes. Some preferred getting no ticket to getting a ticket in P2. Some did not read the instructions. Some did not understand the instructions. Some did not believe the instructions. Whatever the reason, the result is that some people who would have gotten tickets if they had selected all three options ended up not getting tickets.
    Reasonable response. I agree that the instructions were confusing or perhaps illogical, but I followed them anyway. My 2 shows had only the first 2 options. I chose both options and got Reserved for both shows. 
    Just to be clear, because you're using the word "agree"-- I don't think the instructions were confusing or illogical. I thought they were clear, and so did both of the other club members I talked to before submitting my requests.
    Do these two people have the same chance of getting drawn for P1 seats? Yes/no and why?

    Person A: Checked GA/P1 and did not draw GA
    Person B: Checked GA/P1 & P1 and did not draw GA
    No, they don't have the same odds. Person A was only in one drawing. Person B was in two drawings. The first drawing filled out GA and the floor seats. The second drawing filled out the lower bowl seats.
    Pure speculation. Nothing in the sign up page indicated any distinction between the two "P1 Reserved" options. 
    The fact that there were two options suggested that they were for different things.
    They were different. One included the possibility of getting GA instead of P1, the other didn't. That doesn't suggest that "P1 Reserved" means two different things. They could have said P1 Reserved Floor if that was the case.    
    I think the only difference would be GA/Reserved P1 meant you would get either GA or a seat on the floor/field depending on the venue and the Reserved P1 option was for only seats in the bowl areas of the venue.
    😵‍💫🤣🤣!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    P1 is P1. What's going to determine your seat location is seniority, not which option you picked in the lottery. Nothing to do with floor vs. lower bowl. 
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  • nycmale
    nycmale Posts: 258
    Between my friend and I, he won MSG 1 and I won Fenway 1. The only box we checked for both was GA/P1. We didn't check the P1 box and we both wound up with P1 tickets. 
  • ZS55810
    ZS55810 Posts: 8
    Seattle1974 said:
    Frustrating to say the least.   For the second straight tour, I have been completely shut out.  Put in for multiple dates in multiple cities to increase my odds - still nothing.   I have been a 10C member for almost 30 years.   Until a few years ago, I was able to get tickets to shows via 10C presale for every tour (usually floor!).   Since the move over to Ticketmaster process, I have been shut out.   I get that the membership grants only an  "opportunity" to purchase, but something is amiss and I am left wondering what's the point of membership at this point.   
    I’m in the same boat, if it makes you feel any better. Member since 2000, the only Seattle shows that I’ve missed out on in that time were Showbox in 2002 and Benaroya 2003. Guess I can add May 2024 to that list now. 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    Seattle1974 said:
    Frustrating to say the least.   For the second straight tour, I have been completely shut out.  Put in for multiple dates in multiple cities to increase my odds - still nothing.   I have been a 10C member for almost 30 years.   Until a few years ago, I was able to get tickets to shows via 10C presale for every tour (usually floor!).   Since the move over to Ticketmaster process, I have been shut out.   I get that the membership grants only an  "opportunity" to purchase, but something is amiss and I am left wondering what's the point of membership at this point.   
    The point of the membership is the opportunity. You've got to be in it to win it.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • yanknuck
    yanknuck Peterborough, ON Posts: 112
    You might say kinda like a lottery.
  • troubledsoulsuniteblog
    troubledsoulsuniteblog Posts: 277
    yanknuck said:
    You might say kinda like a lottery.
    😂
    Pearl Jam: 9/4/00 7/1/03 5/30/06 6/22/08 6/24/08 6/25/08 8/23/09 8/24/09 10/28/09 10/31/09 5/20/10 10/15/13 8/7/16 9/2/18 9/4/18 9/5/23 9/7/23 8/29/24 8/31/24

    Eddie Vedder: 6/15/09 6/16/11
  • 10LordsALeaping
    10LordsALeaping Posts: 189
    edited February 2024
    I can't believe there haven't been any emails either way.  Not getting chosen isn't the worst part.  It's getting ghosted giving way to false hope.  Just break up with me already.
    The waiting drove me mad.
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    BF25394 said:
    SHZA said:

    Another perfect 10 
    How do you know that this person only put in for these ten shows?
    Not relevant. They went 10 for 10 on these 10 shows. Since each draw is independent of other draws, it makes no difference if they put in for other shows or what their results were. For this group of shows, this person went 10-10. Would love to know the odds of that occurring 
  • troubledsoulsuniteblog
    troubledsoulsuniteblog Posts: 277
    I think this comes down to the Pearl Jam Fan Club Monty Hall Problem, which can be summarized thusly:
    Suppose you're selecting 10 shows, and you're given the choice of two ticket options per show: One option is GA/Reserved; another option is Reserved Only. You select GA/Reserved because you really want GA. Now some fan in the forums tells you that the best thing to do to increase your odds is to change your request to GA/Reserved and Reserved Only to increase your odds of getting in the building. Are you at an advantage if you change your selection and how mad will you be if you're shut out of tickets for all 10 shows even though you've been a member for 300 years? And what about the fact that you're in for 10 shows? Should you just prioritize the shows you want more? Does anyone understand?
    The real answer is "who actually knows" as the fan club isn't publishing their algorithm. And all the proof in the world is limited to people commenting in the forums or on Facebook. Which is likely a tiny subset of all fans submitting requests.
    Pearl Jam: 9/4/00 7/1/03 5/30/06 6/22/08 6/24/08 6/25/08 8/23/09 8/24/09 10/28/09 10/31/09 5/20/10 10/15/13 8/7/16 9/2/18 9/4/18 9/5/23 9/7/23 8/29/24 8/31/24

    Eddie Vedder: 6/15/09 6/16/11
  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    SHZA said:
    BF25394 said:
    SHZA said:

    Another perfect 10 
    How do you know that this person only put in for these ten shows?
    Not relevant. They went 10 for 10 on these 10 shows. Since each draw is independent of other draws, it makes no difference if they put in for other shows or what their results were. For this group of shows, this person went 10-10. Would love to know the odds of that occurring 
    Really fn low. Let's assume odds to get selected for each individual show was 50% (which we know it isn't that high), the odds to get all 10 of these shows would be less than 0.1%. If you took it down to 40% odds per show you'd be at 0.01%.
  • ZS55810
    ZS55810 Posts: 8
    Status on the ticket request site has now changed from “request received” to “unfulfilled.” Just fyi 
  • gvntofly1021
    gvntofly1021 Posts: 23
    ZS55810 said:
    Status on the ticket request site has now changed from “request received” to “unfulfilled.” Just fyi 
    yep. there it is, closure.
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,321
    ZS55810 said:
    Status on the ticket request site has now changed from “request received” to “unfulfilled.” Just fyi 
    Mine too. 
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,074
    ZS55810 said:
    Status on the ticket request site has now changed from “request received” to “unfulfilled.” Just fyi 
    Yup! Two confirmed, Five unfulfilled for me.

  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    GlowGirl said:
    ZS55810 said:
    Status on the ticket request site has now changed from “request received” to “unfulfilled.” Just fyi 
    Yup! Two confirmed, Five unfulfilled for me.

    Sorry
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,104
    officially unfulfilled for Seattle 2
    Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022.
    Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. 
    *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) 
    Seattle 5.30.2024  Noblesville 8.26.2024  Chicago 8.29.2024  Chicago 8.31.2024 
    Pittsburgh 5.16.2025 Pittsburgh 5.18.2025
  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    I feel so unfulfilled 
  • Jseeteenak
    Jseeteenak Baker Lake, Nunavut, Canada Posts: 135
    i put in a bunch of dates and scored pairs in P1 Vancouver N1 & N2 and also Chicago N1. now to decide which show i will attend. 

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