---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---
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2023
Agreed.Gern Blansten said:
I think THomas and Alito are tRumpster's....I'm not sure about the others. I really don't think the three tRump appointees hold that "loyalty" to him at all.gimmesometruth27 said:
trump fully expects them to take it up and then rule on it a year from now. 3 of the 9 have him to thank for their job. a 4th's wife is in the bag for him. even if 5 justices decide to not take up the case, it only takes 4 to agree to hear it. and per trump's thinking, he has the 4 to vote to take it up.The Juggler said:
Yeah based on a lot of what I saw yesterday I am hopeful they reject it...or if they take it, they'd realize the ramifications of the election looming and rule on it quickly (for them).Gern Blansten said:It will be interesting to see if the SC even grants the writ. They might not.
On its face the whole idea of presidential immunity is just fucking stupid.
It's not only stupid, it's not something literally anyone even thought of arguing before his crackpot team of lawyers brought it up. It's laughably bad.
the supreme court, in the interest of at least appearing apolitical should not take it up. but i am fully prepared and expect them to not only take it up, but hear the case on their own timeframe, which would no doubt be after the election. it is their way of ruling without ruling. the cowards' way out.www.myspace.com0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:
trump fully expects them to take it up and then rule on it a year from now. 3 of the 9 have him to thank for their job. a 4th's wife is in the bag for him. even if 5 justices decide to not take up the case, it only takes 4 to agree to hear it. and per trump's thinking, he has the 4 to vote to take it up.The Juggler said:
Yeah based on a lot of what I saw yesterday I am hopeful they reject it...or if they take it, they'd realize the ramifications of the election looming and rule on it quickly (for them).Gern Blansten said:It will be interesting to see if the SC even grants the writ. They might not.
On its face the whole idea of presidential immunity is just fucking stupid.
It's not only stupid, it's not something literally anyone even thought of arguing before his crackpot team of lawyers brought it up. It's laughably bad.
the supreme court, in the interest of at least appearing apolitical should not take it up. but i am fully prepared and expect them to not only take it up, but hear the case on their own timeframe, which would no doubt be after the election. it is their way of ruling without ruling. the cowards' way out.
takes 5 to issue a stay though. the trial would proceed.
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gimmesometruth27 said:
do you really think people will not vote for biden for his stance on the israel hamas war? normally i would vote against him just for that, but these are not normal times.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
anybody see that the rnc had their worst fundraising year in a decade?Halifax2TheMax said:
Dems are being outmaneuvered by repubs? Is that what you call torpedoing the most expansive immigration bill since 1986, repub outmaneuvering?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Please, tell us what stretch of time by decade or half decade was NYC “desirable,” “safe,” “booming,” or “insert positive adjective,” here? You probably aren’t old enough to remember the late 60s and all of the 70s, back when NYC declared bankruptcy and the Bronx, particularly the south Bronx and parts of Harlem were burned out shells. Major ‘Murican cities evolve, go up and down, change with the times, deal and move on from crisis, are reborn or wallow in misery for quite some time (Detroit). If you expect “Try That in a Small Town,” you’re, general you, aren’t being realistic.Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:
NYC is falling apart? I love NYC and I hope I get to see what it’s like in September.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Sure, we believe you.Hoagie Breath said:Voted for Obama '08
Voted for Obama '12
Voted for Hillary '16
Voted for Biden '20
Voting for Trump '24The poll released by NBC today is stunning, and bears out what @HoagieBreath posted. To the question of competence, Trump leads Biden 48-32. Is it Hamas, inflation, or the migrant crisis to blame for Biden losing so much trust among the voters ?
The irony is that it’s completely lost, the endless attacks against trump are not working. Trump is a coward? No one in his 48% care whatsoever. He is holding firm to his republican and independent support from 2020.
Do voters even know trump ignored the supply chain crisis for nearly his entire last year in office? Who is to blame? The endless prosecutions of trump? The extremism forming at the fringes of the Democratic Party supporting a terrorist nation? Bidens lack of action addressing the border crisis, while places like NYC are falling apart in front of our eyes? PJ fans may be stunned what the city looks like this September
There’s been so much prosecution of trump the horrible person, but why have his opponents been unable to remind voters of his years in office? According to polls, trump has lost zero support in three years of prosecutions.These Biden poll numbers are getting into Carter and HW Bush territory.Despite Hal’s joke, NY has changed significantly in cleanliness and safety since the red border states started busing their migrants to us. You can easily Google nyc migrant crisis or you tube it if you haven’t had the chance to catch up on this story.
I wonder who you fault for NYC’s demise?Just because NY was bad decades ago doesn’t make what it occurring currently ok. In comparison to the last 30 years, it’s in bad shape now. Not because of a bad economy, or a tight local budget, which were major causes of the ancient history you cite, but because Dems are being outmaneuvered by republicans.
My point is that NYC will survive, much like Seattle. But I’m interested in knowing who you blame for the NYC migrant crisis?
tell me more about that red wave with trump winning in a landslide that you all think will happen in november.
they have no money. they cannot win without money. and you think that broke mf trump is going to bankroll his own campaign and help other brokeass republicans as well?
wake up.Cmon man, take a closer look at that NBC poll from two days ago. Biden is getting destroyed on all the major issues, this is unlike any trump polling in recent years,Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.
The poll also shows Trump holding a 16-point advantage over Biden on being competent and effective, a reversal from 2020, when Biden was ahead of Trump on this quality by 9 points before defeating him in that election.
And Biden’s approval rating has declined to the lowest level of his presidency in NBC News polling — to 37% — while fewer than 3 in 10 voters approve of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
also, is the bolded part from a link or did you write that?
I copied from an article, citing stats from NBCs recent poll, there’s enough statistical data there from the poll that you can verify if you don’t trust the veracity of the stats.0 -
The Juggler said:
I don't know....go ask the 70,000 people across three states who didn't vote for Hillary which then swung the election and changed the face of the Supreme Court for multiple generations. The margins are so slim nowadays. It only takes a small percentage of people staying home...gimmesometruth27 said:
do you really think people will not vote for biden for his stance on the israel hamas war? normally i would vote against him just for that, but these are not normal times.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
anybody see that the rnc had their worst fundraising year in a decade?Halifax2TheMax said:
Dems are being outmaneuvered by repubs? Is that what you call torpedoing the most expansive immigration bill since 1986, repub outmaneuvering?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Please, tell us what stretch of time by decade or half decade was NYC “desirable,” “safe,” “booming,” or “insert positive adjective,” here? You probably aren’t old enough to remember the late 60s and all of the 70s, back when NYC declared bankruptcy and the Bronx, particularly the south Bronx and parts of Harlem were burned out shells. Major ‘Murican cities evolve, go up and down, change with the times, deal and move on from crisis, are reborn or wallow in misery for quite some time (Detroit). If you expect “Try That in a Small Town,” you’re, general you, aren’t being realistic.Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:
NYC is falling apart? I love NYC and I hope I get to see what it’s like in September.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Sure, we believe you.Hoagie Breath said:Voted for Obama '08
Voted for Obama '12
Voted for Hillary '16
Voted for Biden '20
Voting for Trump '24The poll released by NBC today is stunning, and bears out what @HoagieBreath posted. To the question of competence, Trump leads Biden 48-32. Is it Hamas, inflation, or the migrant crisis to blame for Biden losing so much trust among the voters ?
The irony is that it’s completely lost, the endless attacks against trump are not working. Trump is a coward? No one in his 48% care whatsoever. He is holding firm to his republican and independent support from 2020.
Do voters even know trump ignored the supply chain crisis for nearly his entire last year in office? Who is to blame? The endless prosecutions of trump? The extremism forming at the fringes of the Democratic Party supporting a terrorist nation? Bidens lack of action addressing the border crisis, while places like NYC are falling apart in front of our eyes? PJ fans may be stunned what the city looks like this September
There’s been so much prosecution of trump the horrible person, but why have his opponents been unable to remind voters of his years in office? According to polls, trump has lost zero support in three years of prosecutions.These Biden poll numbers are getting into Carter and HW Bush territory.Despite Hal’s joke, NY has changed significantly in cleanliness and safety since the red border states started busing their migrants to us. You can easily Google nyc migrant crisis or you tube it if you haven’t had the chance to catch up on this story.
I wonder who you fault for NYC’s demise?Just because NY was bad decades ago doesn’t make what it occurring currently ok. In comparison to the last 30 years, it’s in bad shape now. Not because of a bad economy, or a tight local budget, which were major causes of the ancient history you cite, but because Dems are being outmaneuvered by republicans.
My point is that NYC will survive, much like Seattle. But I’m interested in knowing who you blame for the NYC migrant crisis?
tell me more about that red wave with trump winning in a landslide that you all think will happen in november.
they have no money. they cannot win without money. and you think that broke mf trump is going to bankroll his own campaign and help other brokeass republicans as well?
wake up.Cmon man, take a closer look at that NBC poll from two days ago. Biden is getting destroyed on all the major issues, this is unlike any trump polling in recent years,Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.
The poll also shows Trump holding a 16-point advantage over Biden on being competent and effective, a reversal from 2020, when Biden was ahead of Trump on this quality by 9 points before defeating him in that election.
And Biden’s approval rating has declined to the lowest level of his presidency in NBC News polling — to 37% — while fewer than 3 in 10 voters approve of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
also, is the bolded part from a link or did you write that?If we compare Bidens recent polling against history of sitting presidents seeking re-election, the only comparables IIRC are HW Bush and Carter, both blow out losses of sitting presidents. Right now Biden is not in 2016, 2020 or 2012 territory. He is polling in solid loss territory. Of course it could change, but there is very little momentum from the Ds right now. And the border and Hamas are hurting him badly.0 -
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Agreed on his polling...do not agree on anything being close to certain that it will be a loss. The variables we are about to encounter are unlike anything we've ever seen before and they're all bad for Trump.Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:
I don't know....go ask the 70,000 people across three states who didn't vote for Hillary which then swung the election and changed the face of the Supreme Court for multiple generations. The margins are so slim nowadays. It only takes a small percentage of people staying home...gimmesometruth27 said:
do you really think people will not vote for biden for his stance on the israel hamas war? normally i would vote against him just for that, but these are not normal times.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
anybody see that the rnc had their worst fundraising year in a decade?Halifax2TheMax said:
Dems are being outmaneuvered by repubs? Is that what you call torpedoing the most expansive immigration bill since 1986, repub outmaneuvering?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Please, tell us what stretch of time by decade or half decade was NYC “desirable,” “safe,” “booming,” or “insert positive adjective,” here? You probably aren’t old enough to remember the late 60s and all of the 70s, back when NYC declared bankruptcy and the Bronx, particularly the south Bronx and parts of Harlem were burned out shells. Major ‘Murican cities evolve, go up and down, change with the times, deal and move on from crisis, are reborn or wallow in misery for quite some time (Detroit). If you expect “Try That in a Small Town,” you’re, general you, aren’t being realistic.Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:
NYC is falling apart? I love NYC and I hope I get to see what it’s like in September.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Sure, we believe you.Hoagie Breath said:Voted for Obama '08
Voted for Obama '12
Voted for Hillary '16
Voted for Biden '20
Voting for Trump '24The poll released by NBC today is stunning, and bears out what @HoagieBreath posted. To the question of competence, Trump leads Biden 48-32. Is it Hamas, inflation, or the migrant crisis to blame for Biden losing so much trust among the voters ?
The irony is that it’s completely lost, the endless attacks against trump are not working. Trump is a coward? No one in his 48% care whatsoever. He is holding firm to his republican and independent support from 2020.
Do voters even know trump ignored the supply chain crisis for nearly his entire last year in office? Who is to blame? The endless prosecutions of trump? The extremism forming at the fringes of the Democratic Party supporting a terrorist nation? Bidens lack of action addressing the border crisis, while places like NYC are falling apart in front of our eyes? PJ fans may be stunned what the city looks like this September
There’s been so much prosecution of trump the horrible person, but why have his opponents been unable to remind voters of his years in office? According to polls, trump has lost zero support in three years of prosecutions.These Biden poll numbers are getting into Carter and HW Bush territory.Despite Hal’s joke, NY has changed significantly in cleanliness and safety since the red border states started busing their migrants to us. You can easily Google nyc migrant crisis or you tube it if you haven’t had the chance to catch up on this story.
I wonder who you fault for NYC’s demise?Just because NY was bad decades ago doesn’t make what it occurring currently ok. In comparison to the last 30 years, it’s in bad shape now. Not because of a bad economy, or a tight local budget, which were major causes of the ancient history you cite, but because Dems are being outmaneuvered by republicans.
My point is that NYC will survive, much like Seattle. But I’m interested in knowing who you blame for the NYC migrant crisis?
tell me more about that red wave with trump winning in a landslide that you all think will happen in november.
they have no money. they cannot win without money. and you think that broke mf trump is going to bankroll his own campaign and help other brokeass republicans as well?
wake up.Cmon man, take a closer look at that NBC poll from two days ago. Biden is getting destroyed on all the major issues, this is unlike any trump polling in recent years,Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.
The poll also shows Trump holding a 16-point advantage over Biden on being competent and effective, a reversal from 2020, when Biden was ahead of Trump on this quality by 9 points before defeating him in that election.
And Biden’s approval rating has declined to the lowest level of his presidency in NBC News polling — to 37% — while fewer than 3 in 10 voters approve of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
also, is the bolded part from a link or did you write that?If we compare Bidens recent polling against history of sitting presidents seeking re-election, the only comparables IIRC are HW Bush and Carter, both blow out losses of sitting presidents. Right now Biden is not in 2016, 2020 or 2012 territory. He is polling in solid loss territory. Of course it could change, but there is very little momentum from the Ds right now. And the border and Hamas are hurting him badly.
The momentum should be there given the economy's turn around. My guess is people we come around to it once the fed begins cutting rates this spring .www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:
Agreed on his polling...do not agree on anything being close to certain that it will be a loss. The variables we are about to encounter are unlike anything we've ever seen before and they're all bad for Trump.Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:
I don't know....go ask the 70,000 people across three states who didn't vote for Hillary which then swung the election and changed the face of the Supreme Court for multiple generations. The margins are so slim nowadays. It only takes a small percentage of people staying home...gimmesometruth27 said:
do you really think people will not vote for biden for his stance on the israel hamas war? normally i would vote against him just for that, but these are not normal times.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
anybody see that the rnc had their worst fundraising year in a decade?Halifax2TheMax said:
Dems are being outmaneuvered by repubs? Is that what you call torpedoing the most expansive immigration bill since 1986, repub outmaneuvering?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Please, tell us what stretch of time by decade or half decade was NYC “desirable,” “safe,” “booming,” or “insert positive adjective,” here? You probably aren’t old enough to remember the late 60s and all of the 70s, back when NYC declared bankruptcy and the Bronx, particularly the south Bronx and parts of Harlem were burned out shells. Major ‘Murican cities evolve, go up and down, change with the times, deal and move on from crisis, are reborn or wallow in misery for quite some time (Detroit). If you expect “Try That in a Small Town,” you’re, general you, aren’t being realistic.Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:
NYC is falling apart? I love NYC and I hope I get to see what it’s like in September.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Sure, we believe you.Hoagie Breath said:Voted for Obama '08
Voted for Obama '12
Voted for Hillary '16
Voted for Biden '20
Voting for Trump '24The poll released by NBC today is stunning, and bears out what @HoagieBreath posted. To the question of competence, Trump leads Biden 48-32. Is it Hamas, inflation, or the migrant crisis to blame for Biden losing so much trust among the voters ?
The irony is that it’s completely lost, the endless attacks against trump are not working. Trump is a coward? No one in his 48% care whatsoever. He is holding firm to his republican and independent support from 2020.
Do voters even know trump ignored the supply chain crisis for nearly his entire last year in office? Who is to blame? The endless prosecutions of trump? The extremism forming at the fringes of the Democratic Party supporting a terrorist nation? Bidens lack of action addressing the border crisis, while places like NYC are falling apart in front of our eyes? PJ fans may be stunned what the city looks like this September
There’s been so much prosecution of trump the horrible person, but why have his opponents been unable to remind voters of his years in office? According to polls, trump has lost zero support in three years of prosecutions.These Biden poll numbers are getting into Carter and HW Bush territory.Despite Hal’s joke, NY has changed significantly in cleanliness and safety since the red border states started busing their migrants to us. You can easily Google nyc migrant crisis or you tube it if you haven’t had the chance to catch up on this story.
I wonder who you fault for NYC’s demise?Just because NY was bad decades ago doesn’t make what it occurring currently ok. In comparison to the last 30 years, it’s in bad shape now. Not because of a bad economy, or a tight local budget, which were major causes of the ancient history you cite, but because Dems are being outmaneuvered by republicans.
My point is that NYC will survive, much like Seattle. But I’m interested in knowing who you blame for the NYC migrant crisis?
tell me more about that red wave with trump winning in a landslide that you all think will happen in november.
they have no money. they cannot win without money. and you think that broke mf trump is going to bankroll his own campaign and help other brokeass republicans as well?
wake up.Cmon man, take a closer look at that NBC poll from two days ago. Biden is getting destroyed on all the major issues, this is unlike any trump polling in recent years,Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.
The poll also shows Trump holding a 16-point advantage over Biden on being competent and effective, a reversal from 2020, when Biden was ahead of Trump on this quality by 9 points before defeating him in that election.
And Biden’s approval rating has declined to the lowest level of his presidency in NBC News polling — to 37% — while fewer than 3 in 10 voters approve of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
also, is the bolded part from a link or did you write that?If we compare Bidens recent polling against history of sitting presidents seeking re-election, the only comparables IIRC are HW Bush and Carter, both blow out losses of sitting presidents. Right now Biden is not in 2016, 2020 or 2012 territory. He is polling in solid loss territory. Of course it could change, but there is very little momentum from the Ds right now. And the border and Hamas are hurting him badly.
The momentum should be there given the economy's turn around. My guess is people we come around to it once the fed begins cutting rates this spring .Not sure I commented I’m certain it’s going to be a loss for Biden . At this point the party not in office usually has the momentum, but this polling is not just bad it’s historically poor (not the who is leading question ,but who is trusted more on key issues and more competent)
its insane to think trump is plus 20 on competency, but he is. Considering the economic numbers, the inflation percentage Biden inherited from trump and where it’s at now, plus all of the good economic stats, where exactly is the democratic political machine now trying to change the narrative? Dems are usually poor at messaging. Now is no exception0 -
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bookmarking all of this to review in 9 months...Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:
Agreed on his polling...do not agree on anything being close to certain that it will be a loss. The variables we are about to encounter are unlike anything we've ever seen before and they're all bad for Trump.Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:
I don't know....go ask the 70,000 people across three states who didn't vote for Hillary which then swung the election and changed the face of the Supreme Court for multiple generations. The margins are so slim nowadays. It only takes a small percentage of people staying home...gimmesometruth27 said:
do you really think people will not vote for biden for his stance on the israel hamas war? normally i would vote against him just for that, but these are not normal times.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
anybody see that the rnc had their worst fundraising year in a decade?Halifax2TheMax said:
Dems are being outmaneuvered by repubs? Is that what you call torpedoing the most expansive immigration bill since 1986, repub outmaneuvering?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Please, tell us what stretch of time by decade or half decade was NYC “desirable,” “safe,” “booming,” or “insert positive adjective,” here? You probably aren’t old enough to remember the late 60s and all of the 70s, back when NYC declared bankruptcy and the Bronx, particularly the south Bronx and parts of Harlem were burned out shells. Major ‘Murican cities evolve, go up and down, change with the times, deal and move on from crisis, are reborn or wallow in misery for quite some time (Detroit). If you expect “Try That in a Small Town,” you’re, general you, aren’t being realistic.Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:
NYC is falling apart? I love NYC and I hope I get to see what it’s like in September.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Sure, we believe you.Hoagie Breath said:Voted for Obama '08
Voted for Obama '12
Voted for Hillary '16
Voted for Biden '20
Voting for Trump '24The poll released by NBC today is stunning, and bears out what @HoagieBreath posted. To the question of competence, Trump leads Biden 48-32. Is it Hamas, inflation, or the migrant crisis to blame for Biden losing so much trust among the voters ?
The irony is that it’s completely lost, the endless attacks against trump are not working. Trump is a coward? No one in his 48% care whatsoever. He is holding firm to his republican and independent support from 2020.
Do voters even know trump ignored the supply chain crisis for nearly his entire last year in office? Who is to blame? The endless prosecutions of trump? The extremism forming at the fringes of the Democratic Party supporting a terrorist nation? Bidens lack of action addressing the border crisis, while places like NYC are falling apart in front of our eyes? PJ fans may be stunned what the city looks like this September
There’s been so much prosecution of trump the horrible person, but why have his opponents been unable to remind voters of his years in office? According to polls, trump has lost zero support in three years of prosecutions.These Biden poll numbers are getting into Carter and HW Bush territory.Despite Hal’s joke, NY has changed significantly in cleanliness and safety since the red border states started busing their migrants to us. You can easily Google nyc migrant crisis or you tube it if you haven’t had the chance to catch up on this story.
I wonder who you fault for NYC’s demise?Just because NY was bad decades ago doesn’t make what it occurring currently ok. In comparison to the last 30 years, it’s in bad shape now. Not because of a bad economy, or a tight local budget, which were major causes of the ancient history you cite, but because Dems are being outmaneuvered by republicans.
My point is that NYC will survive, much like Seattle. But I’m interested in knowing who you blame for the NYC migrant crisis?
tell me more about that red wave with trump winning in a landslide that you all think will happen in november.
they have no money. they cannot win without money. and you think that broke mf trump is going to bankroll his own campaign and help other brokeass republicans as well?
wake up.Cmon man, take a closer look at that NBC poll from two days ago. Biden is getting destroyed on all the major issues, this is unlike any trump polling in recent years,Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.
The poll also shows Trump holding a 16-point advantage over Biden on being competent and effective, a reversal from 2020, when Biden was ahead of Trump on this quality by 9 points before defeating him in that election.
And Biden’s approval rating has declined to the lowest level of his presidency in NBC News polling — to 37% — while fewer than 3 in 10 voters approve of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
also, is the bolded part from a link or did you write that?If we compare Bidens recent polling against history of sitting presidents seeking re-election, the only comparables IIRC are HW Bush and Carter, both blow out losses of sitting presidents. Right now Biden is not in 2016, 2020 or 2012 territory. He is polling in solid loss territory. Of course it could change, but there is very little momentum from the Ds right now. And the border and Hamas are hurting him badly.
The momentum should be there given the economy's turn around. My guess is people we come around to it once the fed begins cutting rates this spring .Not sure I commented I’m certain it’s going to be a loss for Biden . At this point the party not in office usually has the momentum, but this polling is not just bad it’s historically poor (not the who is leading question ,but who is trusted more on key issues and more competent)
its insane to think trump is plus 20 on competency, but he is. Considering the economic numbers, the inflation percentage Biden inherited from trump and where it’s at now, plus all of the good economic stats, where exactly is the democratic political machine now trying to change the narrative? Dems are usually poor at messaging. Now is no exception"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
The question is, do you trust the D/R/I splits in the polls. That's what I've been questioning for the past 4 years now.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
do you really think people will not vote for biden for his stance on the israel hamas war? normally i would vote against him just for that, but these are not normal times.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
anybody see that the rnc had their worst fundraising year in a decade?Halifax2TheMax said:
Dems are being outmaneuvered by repubs? Is that what you call torpedoing the most expansive immigration bill since 1986, repub outmaneuvering?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Please, tell us what stretch of time by decade or half decade was NYC “desirable,” “safe,” “booming,” or “insert positive adjective,” here? You probably aren’t old enough to remember the late 60s and all of the 70s, back when NYC declared bankruptcy and the Bronx, particularly the south Bronx and parts of Harlem were burned out shells. Major ‘Murican cities evolve, go up and down, change with the times, deal and move on from crisis, are reborn or wallow in misery for quite some time (Detroit). If you expect “Try That in a Small Town,” you’re, general you, aren’t being realistic.Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:
NYC is falling apart? I love NYC and I hope I get to see what it’s like in September.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Sure, we believe you.Hoagie Breath said:Voted for Obama '08
Voted for Obama '12
Voted for Hillary '16
Voted for Biden '20
Voting for Trump '24The poll released by NBC today is stunning, and bears out what @HoagieBreath posted. To the question of competence, Trump leads Biden 48-32. Is it Hamas, inflation, or the migrant crisis to blame for Biden losing so much trust among the voters ?
The irony is that it’s completely lost, the endless attacks against trump are not working. Trump is a coward? No one in his 48% care whatsoever. He is holding firm to his republican and independent support from 2020.
Do voters even know trump ignored the supply chain crisis for nearly his entire last year in office? Who is to blame? The endless prosecutions of trump? The extremism forming at the fringes of the Democratic Party supporting a terrorist nation? Bidens lack of action addressing the border crisis, while places like NYC are falling apart in front of our eyes? PJ fans may be stunned what the city looks like this September
There’s been so much prosecution of trump the horrible person, but why have his opponents been unable to remind voters of his years in office? According to polls, trump has lost zero support in three years of prosecutions.These Biden poll numbers are getting into Carter and HW Bush territory.Despite Hal’s joke, NY has changed significantly in cleanliness and safety since the red border states started busing their migrants to us. You can easily Google nyc migrant crisis or you tube it if you haven’t had the chance to catch up on this story.
I wonder who you fault for NYC’s demise?Just because NY was bad decades ago doesn’t make what it occurring currently ok. In comparison to the last 30 years, it’s in bad shape now. Not because of a bad economy, or a tight local budget, which were major causes of the ancient history you cite, but because Dems are being outmaneuvered by republicans.
My point is that NYC will survive, much like Seattle. But I’m interested in knowing who you blame for the NYC migrant crisis?
tell me more about that red wave with trump winning in a landslide that you all think will happen in november.
they have no money. they cannot win without money. and you think that broke mf trump is going to bankroll his own campaign and help other brokeass republicans as well?
wake up.Cmon man, take a closer look at that NBC poll from two days ago. Biden is getting destroyed on all the major issues, this is unlike any trump polling in recent years,Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.
The poll also shows Trump holding a 16-point advantage over Biden on being competent and effective, a reversal from 2020, when Biden was ahead of Trump on this quality by 9 points before defeating him in that election.
And Biden’s approval rating has declined to the lowest level of his presidency in NBC News polling — to 37% — while fewer than 3 in 10 voters approve of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
also, is the bolded part from a link or did you write that?
I copied from an article, citing stats from NBCs recent poll, there’s enough statistical data there from the poll that you can verify if you don’t trust the veracity of the stats.0 -
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Biden lead in just about every head to head poll at this point four years ago.mrussel1 said:
The question is, do you trust the D/R/I splits in the polls. That's what I've been questioning for the past 4 years now.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
do you really think people will not vote for biden for his stance on the israel hamas war? normally i would vote against him just for that, but these are not normal times.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
anybody see that the rnc had their worst fundraising year in a decade?Halifax2TheMax said:
Dems are being outmaneuvered by repubs? Is that what you call torpedoing the most expansive immigration bill since 1986, repub outmaneuvering?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Please, tell us what stretch of time by decade or half decade was NYC “desirable,” “safe,” “booming,” or “insert positive adjective,” here? You probably aren’t old enough to remember the late 60s and all of the 70s, back when NYC declared bankruptcy and the Bronx, particularly the south Bronx and parts of Harlem were burned out shells. Major ‘Murican cities evolve, go up and down, change with the times, deal and move on from crisis, are reborn or wallow in misery for quite some time (Detroit). If you expect “Try That in a Small Town,” you’re, general you, aren’t being realistic.Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:
NYC is falling apart? I love NYC and I hope I get to see what it’s like in September.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Sure, we believe you.Hoagie Breath said:Voted for Obama '08
Voted for Obama '12
Voted for Hillary '16
Voted for Biden '20
Voting for Trump '24The poll released by NBC today is stunning, and bears out what @HoagieBreath posted. To the question of competence, Trump leads Biden 48-32. Is it Hamas, inflation, or the migrant crisis to blame for Biden losing so much trust among the voters ?
The irony is that it’s completely lost, the endless attacks against trump are not working. Trump is a coward? No one in his 48% care whatsoever. He is holding firm to his republican and independent support from 2020.
Do voters even know trump ignored the supply chain crisis for nearly his entire last year in office? Who is to blame? The endless prosecutions of trump? The extremism forming at the fringes of the Democratic Party supporting a terrorist nation? Bidens lack of action addressing the border crisis, while places like NYC are falling apart in front of our eyes? PJ fans may be stunned what the city looks like this September
There’s been so much prosecution of trump the horrible person, but why have his opponents been unable to remind voters of his years in office? According to polls, trump has lost zero support in three years of prosecutions.These Biden poll numbers are getting into Carter and HW Bush territory.Despite Hal’s joke, NY has changed significantly in cleanliness and safety since the red border states started busing their migrants to us. You can easily Google nyc migrant crisis or you tube it if you haven’t had the chance to catch up on this story.
I wonder who you fault for NYC’s demise?Just because NY was bad decades ago doesn’t make what it occurring currently ok. In comparison to the last 30 years, it’s in bad shape now. Not because of a bad economy, or a tight local budget, which were major causes of the ancient history you cite, but because Dems are being outmaneuvered by republicans.
My point is that NYC will survive, much like Seattle. But I’m interested in knowing who you blame for the NYC migrant crisis?
tell me more about that red wave with trump winning in a landslide that you all think will happen in november.
they have no money. they cannot win without money. and you think that broke mf trump is going to bankroll his own campaign and help other brokeass republicans as well?
wake up.Cmon man, take a closer look at that NBC poll from two days ago. Biden is getting destroyed on all the major issues, this is unlike any trump polling in recent years,Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.
The poll also shows Trump holding a 16-point advantage over Biden on being competent and effective, a reversal from 2020, when Biden was ahead of Trump on this quality by 9 points before defeating him in that election.
And Biden’s approval rating has declined to the lowest level of his presidency in NBC News polling — to 37% — while fewer than 3 in 10 voters approve of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
also, is the bolded part from a link or did you write that?
I copied from an article, citing stats from NBCs recent poll, there’s enough statistical data there from the poll that you can verify if you don’t trust the veracity of the stats.www.myspace.com0 -
I'm saying since that election (21 and later) the polls have by and large undercounted D turnout. They keep missing low.The Juggler said:
Biden lead in just about every head to head poll at this point four years ago.mrussel1 said:
The question is, do you trust the D/R/I splits in the polls. That's what I've been questioning for the past 4 years now.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
do you really think people will not vote for biden for his stance on the israel hamas war? normally i would vote against him just for that, but these are not normal times.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
anybody see that the rnc had their worst fundraising year in a decade?Halifax2TheMax said:
Dems are being outmaneuvered by repubs? Is that what you call torpedoing the most expansive immigration bill since 1986, repub outmaneuvering?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Please, tell us what stretch of time by decade or half decade was NYC “desirable,” “safe,” “booming,” or “insert positive adjective,” here? You probably aren’t old enough to remember the late 60s and all of the 70s, back when NYC declared bankruptcy and the Bronx, particularly the south Bronx and parts of Harlem were burned out shells. Major ‘Murican cities evolve, go up and down, change with the times, deal and move on from crisis, are reborn or wallow in misery for quite some time (Detroit). If you expect “Try That in a Small Town,” you’re, general you, aren’t being realistic.Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:
NYC is falling apart? I love NYC and I hope I get to see what it’s like in September.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Sure, we believe you.Hoagie Breath said:Voted for Obama '08
Voted for Obama '12
Voted for Hillary '16
Voted for Biden '20
Voting for Trump '24The poll released by NBC today is stunning, and bears out what @HoagieBreath posted. To the question of competence, Trump leads Biden 48-32. Is it Hamas, inflation, or the migrant crisis to blame for Biden losing so much trust among the voters ?
The irony is that it’s completely lost, the endless attacks against trump are not working. Trump is a coward? No one in his 48% care whatsoever. He is holding firm to his republican and independent support from 2020.
Do voters even know trump ignored the supply chain crisis for nearly his entire last year in office? Who is to blame? The endless prosecutions of trump? The extremism forming at the fringes of the Democratic Party supporting a terrorist nation? Bidens lack of action addressing the border crisis, while places like NYC are falling apart in front of our eyes? PJ fans may be stunned what the city looks like this September
There’s been so much prosecution of trump the horrible person, but why have his opponents been unable to remind voters of his years in office? According to polls, trump has lost zero support in three years of prosecutions.These Biden poll numbers are getting into Carter and HW Bush territory.Despite Hal’s joke, NY has changed significantly in cleanliness and safety since the red border states started busing their migrants to us. You can easily Google nyc migrant crisis or you tube it if you haven’t had the chance to catch up on this story.
I wonder who you fault for NYC’s demise?Just because NY was bad decades ago doesn’t make what it occurring currently ok. In comparison to the last 30 years, it’s in bad shape now. Not because of a bad economy, or a tight local budget, which were major causes of the ancient history you cite, but because Dems are being outmaneuvered by republicans.
My point is that NYC will survive, much like Seattle. But I’m interested in knowing who you blame for the NYC migrant crisis?
tell me more about that red wave with trump winning in a landslide that you all think will happen in november.
they have no money. they cannot win without money. and you think that broke mf trump is going to bankroll his own campaign and help other brokeass republicans as well?
wake up.Cmon man, take a closer look at that NBC poll from two days ago. Biden is getting destroyed on all the major issues, this is unlike any trump polling in recent years,Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.
The poll also shows Trump holding a 16-point advantage over Biden on being competent and effective, a reversal from 2020, when Biden was ahead of Trump on this quality by 9 points before defeating him in that election.
And Biden’s approval rating has declined to the lowest level of his presidency in NBC News polling — to 37% — while fewer than 3 in 10 voters approve of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
also, is the bolded part from a link or did you write that?
I copied from an article, citing stats from NBCs recent poll, there’s enough statistical data there from the poll that you can verify if you don’t trust the veracity of the stats.0 -
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Historically, after leaving office, many former presidents and vice presidents have knowingly taken home sensitive materials related to national security from their administrations without being charged with crimes. This historical record is important context for judging whether and why to charge a former vice presidentand former president, as Mr. Biden would be when susceptible to prosecution-for similar actions taken by several of his predecessors.
With one exception, there is no record of the Department of Justice prosecuting a former president or vice president for mishandling classified documents from his own administration. The exception is former President Trump. It is not our role to assess the criminal charges pending against Mr. Trump, but several material distinctions between Mr. Trump's case and Mr. Biden's are clear. Unlike the evidence involving Mr. Biden, the allegations set forth in the indictment of Mr. Trump, if proven, would present serious aggravating facts.
Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it. In contrast, Mr. Biden turned in classified documents to the National Archives and the Department of Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with the investigation.
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Hey! But Brandon couldn’t remember that he took and possessed classified documents after leaving office. Brandon should be indicted. POOTWH should be elected POTUS. Amiright?mickeyrat said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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2023Letter from an American. Yo? Wake up? Maybe?
Trump’s ties to Russia are deep and well documented, including by the Senate Intelligence Committee, which was dominated by Republicans when it concluded that Trump’s 2016 campaign team had worked with Russian operatives. In November 2022, in the New York Times Magazine, Jim Rutenberg pulled together testimony given both to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation and the Senate Intelligence Committee, transcripts from the impeachment hearings, and recent memoirs.
Rutenberg showed that in 2016, Russian operatives had presented to Trump advisor and later campaign manager Paul Manafort a plan “for the creation of an autonomous republic in Ukraine’s east, giving Putin effective control of the country’s industrial heartland, where Kremlin-armed, -funded, and -directed ‘separatists’ were waging a two-year-old shadow war that had left nearly 10,000 dead.”
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